Well of course Scorpion wouldn't join Noob, I'm just saying, Noob would be inclined to make him the offer. Having one of the most powerful guys in Hell on your side is probably a pretty good idea if you're trying to take the place over.
As far as whether or not Scorpion should always be driven by vengeance, here's how I look at it:
Killing people isn't going to bring his family back. He's just lashing out at the world at this point and in the end, it makes him look impotent and single-mindedly dumb. What he needs to realize is, instead of trying to bring them back to life, HE can come to THEM by getting into Heaven. He needs to redeem his tainted soul so he can earn rest, which was what he was trying to do in the early games anyway, this is just a more heroic way of putting it. And let's face it, while Scorpion has always been a selfish "wild card", his goals until Armageddon were always ultimately good, not evil. He's essentially a hero.
Redemption isn't that far off from revenge. I'm not looking for a major change in the character, I just want to see Quan Chi finished off once and for all so the poor guy can move on to the next step.
And the great thing about redemption is, it's not a short term goal. Revenge is over the moment you finally kill the guy you're out to kill, and if you fail to kill the guy over and over, you start to look like a loser, which is the whole problem with the Quan Chi plot. Redemption, on the other hand, is an abstract that could take forever and the details can change frequently, guaranteeing that Scorpion will ALWAYS have a reason to appear in the next MK game. And a mascot definitely needs a motivation that's evergreen. This is why "Champion of the Elder Gods" was the best thing for him and they need to undo the damage done in Armageddon.

That's a nice way of looking at it, I have to say. But early on in the games, it seemed Scorpion was there solely to avenge himself against Sub-Zero. His family only really came into the equation around MK4, didn't it?

Anyone want to see Scorpion come back as human Hanzo Hasashi at some point?

Someone did an awesome pic of a Hanzo with an arabian-ish hood and bare chest, with the spear rope wrapped around his waist, looked different and cool. Can't remember who did it.

I would love that! This specter crap has been going on for
too damn long. Scorpion doesn't even have a purpose or goal
anymore. How much revenge can one possibly have. His story
needs some change. He needs a new purpose in life, one that
doesn't revolve around getting even with someone. Perhaps it
is time the MK team force Scorpion to choose a damn side once
and for all. Either he is with the side of good, or bad.

Human Scorpion, Human Smoke, Disguised Reptile, Living Liu, Good Raiden, Evil Goro...always with the moving backwards.

No thank you. I like all those characters better the way they are now. (Well, except for Dark Raiden's ugly wardrobe. The black is fine, but why red instead of blue? It just makes no sense)
Besides, his skeletal-ness and powers are the thing I like best about Scorpion.

i had this idea the other night what if scorpion were to somehow reunite with his family maybe by finally realizing that the revenge he was seeking is what kept him in this plane...and instead he forgave quan chi....but then he still had this side to him that was evil and still filled with anger so he purged the evil side and became two entities...scorpion andHanzo Hasashi

I thought Scorpion was fine.

For a non canon game, he was perfectly fine. However I would say they did give the DC side a better layout in story mode than the MK side of things. The only MK character that I felt got the shaft was Kitana.

To You-Know-Who, Well, they were mentioned as a side note in his MK1 ending. Now that I think of it they weren't mentioned in 2 because 2 showed us that Scorpion isn't purely an unthinking killer. He saw Sub-Zero spare someone realized that HIS Sub-Zero was incapable of mercy and that was clearly a different one and decided to go back to hell and let this one live. MK3 there is STILL some confusion about his purpose and some of it may have been retconned like him coming back because of Shao Kahn tore a hole in the netherrealm, not having much to do so he defaulted on being a ninja like he was in life and Shao Kahn was the first to offer him but then leaving Kahn (even to the point of committing ultimate ninja sin of breaking his contract) to protect Sub-Zero this time (a story I liked and wish was kept because it moves him in the right direction). Then in 4 Quan Chi says yeah um.. cough cough.. the older one killed YOU but the younger killed your family and clan. And Scorpion's like "what what what? KILL" and goes kinda lame again...

Scorpion was done well in MK vs DC.
I loved Lex Luthors chapter where you see Scorpion and Sub-Zero walking side by side, and confronting Lex together. I want to see an alliance between the 2. I also want to see an alliance with quan chi and noob. The dark powers vs ice and flame.

First thing's first: I agree completely regarding Scorpion/Hanzo Hasashi. Why go backwards? OK, I could maybe see some benefit in maybe digging up Scorpion's past for a Ninja Gaiden-type action game if the MK Team decided to try and cash-in on other genres a bit more; but there is no reason to take what made Scorpion such a stand-out character (even though I hate to admit it), and turn him into a plain ninja guy.

I'm really glad someone brought up Raiden's costume. I, too, don't understand the red theme Raiden has going. I guess it's just a cool "evil" colour (thank you, Star Wars), but personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Raiden get some green tinging to him. When a big storm is coming, and you see the green aura peaking out behind a black cloud...it's time to start shitting yourself.

Lin Kuei vs Shirai Ryu

I think it'd be an awesome game to play through, since they wanna do "two sides" to things. Should work in similar fashion to that of Shaolin Monks. Updated, it should look alot like how that game Prototype is working out.

Play through the "life, death, and ressurrection"...ect Good chance to separate them from "just the Mk ninjas", and explain in better detail why they clash.

Start with Hanzo on the one end, play through his induction and or experiences with the Lin Kuei. Look through his eyes how he and Takeda differ from the rest of the Lin Kuei.

Then on the flip, start with the older brother Sub-Zero at a younger age, maybe just before he was officially a Lin Kuei. Delve into the loyalty thing, show how stuff like the robotic insiminations came about.

Somewhere in the middle, Sub-Zero kills Hanzo(living Scorpion at that point). Then towards the end, Scorpion kills elder Sub-Zero. I don't really know how they could deal with the introduction of the younger Sub-Zero throughout, or after the elder brother is killed, but it'd be interesting to see//play through Scorpion identifying with him for the first time. That and, the whole vowing to protect him after understanding the Quan Chi situation.

Anyway....there's a wealth of content as usual, and a good reason to back-peddle to Hanzo. That is, if they were to do it well enough. Writters would have to go hard on this sort of thing though.



Me neither. And I'm not exactly a fan of the attire either. The toeless thing and the battle armour didn't work for me at first. I really hated the Thor alt too at first. Now I'm pretty indifferent about it, and just kind of accept it for what it is. = My thought is, a pissed off Raiden isn't going to change his clothes (lol), he'd probably just "let go" in what he's currently wearing. Things would stay dirty or torn...he'd have bags under his eyes and an obvious "stress" on his face. ect.

Most of his "color changing" would//should be in his attitude, and in his habits.

I must say though, that I'm pretty satisfied with the compliance the Mkteam gave us for MkvsDc though. Through and through they did a good job with his design. I like his victory pose in MkvsDc, but that could be a tad more dramatic (more kung fu mojo, lol). Character description, role and character portrayal needs some desparate fine tuning, still.

Raiden's alts struck me more as the look of a samurai/ronin than an attempt to emulate Thor.

i am waiting for a mk game that scorpian and sub zero will team up and kill every one, its like sub zero freezes the guy and scorpian sets him on fire, scorpian and sub-zero make the ultimate team

I like the thought you put into your idea. There is certainly some potential there, but it sounds fairly similar to Mortal Kombat: Mythologies to me. Granted, I never really played that game too much, but the crossover between Sub-Zero and Scorpion was sort of chronicled there, wasn't it?

I'll have to check out that Prototype game you mentioned. I'm still going to say that Ninja Gaiden would be a very good base-model for a MK action game about a ninja -- as that was a fantastic game and one of the few third-person action entries I actually played.

Mortal Kombat: Shirai Ryu Chronicles is something I'd like to see done if it treated the Scorpion story well. If you want multiple characters to be playable in it (although I'm sure Hanzo Hasashi by himself would be fine), maybe have Takeda do a few missions, or have a female ninja also in the group? I'm not sure if you ever played Ninja Gaiden, but think a playable version of Rachel or Ayane in that.

I was thinking that if you completed the game, you could unlock the Scorpion version of Hanzo, complete with demonic moves and such. It'd add a lot of fun to the longevity of the game by making a second play-through a bit of fun.

If you really wanted Sub-Zero in there, you could maybe have him become a hidden playable character. A cheat code or after completing the game on its highest difficulty. The story would remain the same, but you'd just be playing as a blue ninja who can freeze shit. You could also have Sub-Zero feature in a mission where he fights Takeda, or something, as a boss character.