Cyborg_wolf Wrote: What exactly does LDF mean, Ghostdragon?

LDF=Le Dragon Fantome


-LDF

so it also means Ghost Dragon.

Well Ghost Dragon do you want to make a Ghost Dragon Kungfu?

Just another stupid question, does anyone here take kendo aswell?

DeathScepter Wrote: so it also means Ghost Dragon. Well Ghost Dragon do you want to make a Ghost Dragon Kungfu?

Yeah, I'm trying to find someone who can tell me or even better, show me how to write it in chinese.

Do I know how to make a Ghost Dragon Gung Fu? LOL!!!!! Yeah! Just drink all of his green tea up leaving him none and he'll butterfly kick you in the throat and then give you an iron palm strike to the solarplexes.

ROFLOL!!!!


-Le Dragon Fantome

well i would think it would be a good idea for you to try out.

Ghost Dragon sounds like a good name for a good dragon kungfu.

DeadlyWarrior Wrote: Just another stupid question, does anyone here take kendo aswell?

I don't, but what is kendo like?

Hey! Take a look at what Cary Tagawa has been up to.

http://www.ninjahsportz.com/index.htm

Pretty interesting company.


-LDF

I should have gessed about LDF, but i was tired

Pretty interesting indeed, i did not know Cary Hiroyuki Tagawa was so engaged in what he does... Not to good with spelling,though?

Wanderer Wrote: DeadlyWarrior Wrote: Just another stupid question, does anyone here take kendo aswell? I don't, but what is kendo like?

It's pretty cool. The two combatants have armor and a shinai, and then you proceed to bash the hell outta eachother. Although it sounds fun, alot of patience is required.

welll Kendo is cool.

DeadlyWarrior Wrote: Wanderer Wrote: DeadlyWarrior Wrote: Just another stupid question, does anyone here take kendo aswell? I don't, but what is kendo like? It's pretty cool. The two combatants have armor and a shinai, and then you proceed to bash the hell outta eachother. Although it sounds fun, alot of patience is required.

I'd love to go to Japan and just watch a kendo class in session! The subtlties and perciceness of movements would just wow me beyond belief!


-LDF

Since we are into Japanese swordsmanship arts, does anyone here like Iajitsu?

I'm not into sharp weapons that much, but Iajitsu rocks in my book.

Anyone?

I've been looking for a Martial Art to study now for several years now and I still haven't found on that sounds right for me. I'm not into sharp weapons and I like kicking. I'd like to try a Japanese Martial art but I'm other to other cultures too. Does anyone have any ideas on what I should try. Preferrably something that I can actually find a place that teaches it in my area.

first find a phonebook then look under M in the yellow pages and you will find some.

NovaStarr Wrote: I've been looking for a Martial Art to study now for several years now and I still haven't found on that sounds right for me. I'm not into sharp weapons and I like kicking. I'd like to try a Japanese Martial art but I'm other to other cultures too. Does anyone have any ideas on what I should try. Preferrably something that I can actually find a place that teaches it in my area.

Go to www.martialinfo.com and do a school search.


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NovaStarr Wrote: I've been looking for a Martial Art to study now for several years now and I still haven't found on that sounds right for me. I'm not into sharp weapons and I like kicking. I'd like to try a Japanese Martial art but I'm other to other cultures too. Does anyone have any ideas on what I should try. Preferrably something that I can actually find a place that teaches it in my area.

Hello there NovaStarr. If you like kicking, then perhaps a Northern style of Kung Fu or maybe even Tae Kwon Do could be your kind of martial art.

Sub-Zero_7th beat me to it, what he said is right. Tae Kwon Do is Korean, is that's of any interest to you.
Welcome to the thread, btw.

(and it took 237 replies before any girl got on this thread, is'nt that weird? Martial Arts are for anyone with normal mobility.)

See you peeps!
EDIT: I came to think about this like 5 seconds after posting, so here goes.
Martial Arts and Acrobatics are now becoming much more entwined. What i mean with this is that often, when a Martial Art public exibition is staged, it is rare to see the whole thing without someone doing atleast a cartweel, a backflip, frontflip, or some other kind of acrobatic stunt. The same phenomenon can be experienced in Martial Art movies, in particular Hong Kong and Jackie Chan movies. Even in the 70's Bruce Lee classic, Enter the Dragon, Lee's character performs a cartweel into double backflip at one point in the movie, and a backdrop to kickup at another.
I myself am more then ready to at any time acknowledge the skill of these acrobats, and the natural beauty of the movement that can also be seen in Martial Arts, don't get me wrong. But as has been discussed in the beginning of this thread, a Martial Art is, to an extent, something that you must MEAN, as was also, at a point touched upon by Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon. But a Martial Art is also, like Forevergrey said, a skill that is potentially lethally dangerous, and, for some people, a philosophy.
I can surely imagine that most dedicated athletes and acrobats are wholeheartedly involved in their training, and that acrobatics develop muscular power,mass, and flexibility in a similar manner of Martial Arts, but where I "disagree", and this is my opinion, feel free to disagree, is that acrobatics are not potentially a danger. Noone developed movements in acrobatics with the intent of making them harmful, or even potentially harmful.
And in that, i tend to feel a little awkward when i see a Martial Artist starting to do flips and summersaults, because to me, they are not Martial movements, but ornamental, pretty, flashy movements. So ok, i'm impressed if i see a Martial Artist do nohanded cartweel into a 720° Jump spinning hook kick, and i sure acknowledge the skill it takes, but, is such a move really ever called for? In a street fight, and i hope you people agree, one would not even think of doing a flashy move such as those i mentioned.
Bruce Lee, when designing Jeet Kune Do, Cantonese for the way of the intercepting fist removed all ornamental moves from his art, and that is partially why so many fans where shocked when the editing of existing footage of Lee was weaved into a film called Game of Death, for, when Bruce Lee was'nt the one fighting, acrobatics sure came along, and not a little bit either. No harm said of Yuen Biao, who doubled for Bruce to make the rest of the movie, or even Jackie Chan, who is great to watch.
So i gess my point would be, why are Martial Arts and acrobatics being constantly mixed into eachother, when the similarities between the two are few, and situated at the physical level ONLY?
Any point of wiew would be greatly appreciated.
Comments, anyone?

to me it is the way for self improvement and self defense.

I'll get onto the MA/acrobatic thing in a second...

Good news for me - The singer for my band found a Capoiera class not far from where we live, the chick who teaches it is amazing so I'm starting lessons most likely tomorrow. I'm planning on working it into my style, it will be great for my spinning and aerial type kicks (making them quicker, more fluid and more powerful, I'd assume), the balance and stamina that come with Capoiera are a huge thing that will benefit my training also. Should be good

As for acrobats and martial arts, it's kind of funny I was just talking about Capoiera... I honestly don't feel it's a good idea to be flipping around in a fight. A few reasons...

* It wastes energy quickly

* It leaves about a 1 second gap where you can be hit with everything they've got

* You may not land properly and more or less end the fight yourself

* In the air you're dead weight, one strike could land you in hospital

* Most acrobatic flips and what not weren't intended for combat and lack power

It's very impressive to watch, and alot of fun to do, but it isn't really a good way of fighting IMO. When I spar with mates I screw around a little, I've had one of them try to sweep me and I did a 1 handed cartwheel to get well out of the way of it. In a real fight though there's no hope I would've even tried that, I probably would've just thrown a low roundhouse at their sweeping leg and took out their shin.

I guess all I'm saying is this - If you've stunned somebody with a jab to the nose and have the choice of trying to knock them out with some huge backflip kick or a simple roundhouse elbow, the elbow is the quicker and probably more damaging choice. That, and it doesn't leave you anywhere near as open.

Flips and stuff are cool, I like doing them myself being the agile prick that I am, but they're more the kind of thing I do at a party to amuse drunks than what I use for fighting

Good point Forevergrey, and congrats on finding a capoeira club.

But do you people have any idea WHY Martial Arts and acrobatics weave in to eachother so much?

Oh, btw, i prefer the roundhouse elbow too

Cyborg_wolf Wrote: Since we are into Japanese swordsmanship arts, does anyone here like Iajitsu? I'm not into sharp weapons that much, but Iajitsu rocks in my book. Anyone?

I take the occasional class of Iaijutsu. But it is much easier if you know kendo first.

interesting guys.

ForeveryGrey I do like what you said about acorobatic in the martial arts.


It is fun to watch but it is impraticial for self-defense.

Well Deadlywarrior, i gathered that.
Talking about acrobatics/Martial Arts, Spiderman is a good example. He never took MA classes (to my knowledge) and yet, since he is so acrobatic, kicks naturally come in in his "style".

Cyborg_wolf Wrote: Good point Forevergrey, and congrats on finding a capoeira club. But do you people have any idea WHY Martial Arts and acrobatics weave in to eachother so much? Oh, btw, i prefer the roundhouse elbow too

Easy! Sport fighting. Certain moves give higher points. In street fighting, acrobatics are usually out of the question. Most people don't see a street fight, and so base what they see on movies and competitions. A lot of the effects are flashy, simply to get the crowd/judges riled(sp?) up. Spiderman is pretty agile, so a kick and punch look a bit more effective. But you have to remember, ANYONE can kick and punch...unless you have limbs missing.

(also, I've been busy so I haven't been in here too much)

NovaStarr, I told you in the IRC chat earlier today what I think you should do. Go from there.

Good point Wanderer, i had'nt thought of it that way before.

Anyone else got a point of wiew?

Wanderer Wrote: Cyborg_wolf Wrote: Good point Forevergrey, and congrats on finding a capoeira club. But do you people have any idea WHY Martial Arts and acrobatics weave in to eachother so much? Oh, btw, i prefer the roundhouse elbow too Easy! Sport fighting. Certain moves give higher points. In street fighting, acrobatics are usually out of the question. Most people don't see a street fight, and so base what they see on movies and competitions. A lot of the effects are flashy, simply to get the crowd/judges riled(sp?) up. Spiderman is pretty agile, so a kick and punch look a bit more effective. But you have to remember, ANYONE can kick and punch...unless you have limbs missing. (also, I've been busy so I haven't been in here too much) NovaStarr, I told you in the IRC chat earlier today what I think you should do. Go from there.

Anyway, i'll see you people later. (Sort of. )