...and thus began anew the dreaded Sonya vs. Kitana argument...

Indeed and once again it'll be based on speculation

Kitana won the Musical Chair game.

Hm...

I'd seriously doubt a movie // t.v. show happens unless a hugely popular game precedes it. If anything, maybe a new U.S.Special Forces game. I'd vote for a vs the Tekunin sort of deal. "War of the Worlds" spin or parody. Rage against the machine, man vs robot, or something like invasion of the cyborgs. Brainiac vs The Justice League kinda sorta.

Be like taking significant portions of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, and Halo and smashing them together in blood-filled fatality goodness. It'd have to be done just right though. Potential is definitely there but idk.

LOL! That's so true.

I think that it's great to get some MK news, and I hope we get some more soon. I can't really say a whole lot about the trademarking of Sonya's character other than "okay".

When it comes to popularity, movies, etc., I'd say that Kitana, Mileena, and Sonya are the three most popular characters. As for who is the most popular of the three, that's debatable, but I don't really care. I think each of those three have appeal to people, but I don't think a movie is going to be made about any of them. In a way, I think they shouldn't bother making any more MK movies unless someone actually makes something really good.

I think Kitana does have greater story potential as she's a three-dimensional character with more of a story. But still, even if movie about her were to be made, they'd botch it up, causing angry fans, especially XiahouDun84. If they did a Sonya movie, they'd also botch it.

I don't know why people would immediately jump to assume "movie" anyway. Trademarking something just means you plan to use their name on the cover of something. It could just as easly mean a game, novel, comic book, etc. Even just an action figure.
For instance. Marvel owns the trademark to the name "Captain Marvel". All that means is that both Marvel AND DC have a character with that name, but whenever DC puts out a product with their Captain Marvel in it, they have to write "Shazam" on the cover instead.
As far as the Sonya vs. Kitana argument goes, yeah, we went through this once before when MK vs DCU came out, and here's what the problem is: QS, you are obviously biased. You are a Sonya fan, thus you will rabidly defend her. I am not really a fan of either Sonya or Kitana. I can take or leave them both, to be honest. And hell, I outright hate Mileena.
But I believe in science, in examining evidence and posting the facts. And when I look at the evidence, I believe Kitana is a more popular character and more central to the main storyline, that's just what I see.
That's how the last argument ended, too. You and the rest of Sonya's fanclub, which is only like 3 or 4 regular posters, all said she's the most popular, then everybody else was like "Uh actually, I think Kitana's better or more important or whatever." But the fanclub never gave up, because that's what fanclubs do, they act irrational and foam at the mouth until they get their way and in the end, the topic is destroyed and everybody becomes sick to death of the whole subject. So I'm just gonna let it go, you can believe whatever you like.

Sub Zero_7th wrote:

"When it comes to popularity, movies, etc., I'd say that Kitana, Mileena, and Sonya are the three most popular characters. As for who is the most popular of the three, that's debatable, but I don't really care. I think each of those three have appeal to people, but I don't think a movie is going to be made about any of them. In a way, I think they shouldn't bother making any more MK movies unless someone actually makes something really good.

I think Kitana does have greater story potential as she's a three-dimensional character with more of a story. But still, even if movie about her were to be made, they'd botch it up, causing angry fans, especially XiahouDun84. If they did a Sonya movie, they'd also botch it."


I agree with about 97% of what you said my good sir.

@ Razorsedge701

Only 3 or 4 Sonya fans on all of MKO? Your science told you that?

QS, Queve, and Keith.

Those are the three regular, recognizeable-by-name posters who make up the Sonya fanclub. They're the only ones who stood up for her and got all crazy and rabid when this argument happened last year in the MKvsDCU forum.
So yeah, 3 is about right. After all, I'm not trying to count casual fans or everybody in the world, just the devoted followers who post a lot on the boards.

Yeah! What's the contest? Kitana wins!

@ Razorsedge701

They may be the 3 most recognizable posters but it is an error to assume they are the only ones in Sonya's "fan club" as you put it simply beacause the are the most vocal. I would consider myself a devoted fan of Sonya but at the moment I only post semi-regularly here since these boards are kind of dead right now in the absence of a new game.

I happen to love both characters myself. So I must confess the whole Kitana/Sonya rivalry doesn't hold much appeal to me. I win either way as long as they are in the games.


Razorsedge701 wrote:

"So yeah, 3 is about right."

Forgive me, won't you, if I still have my doubts about the veracity of your statement. 3 seems a little off to me.

But it' okay Razor. I'll catch you around.

Look games centered around just two of the three fighters in a series sucks. I mean MKM SZ kind of just sucked. MK SF well just kind of sucked. The only reason why MK SLM was good was because it was basicly MK 2 in an action game format. A fighting game series is awsome because of the sum of it parts not just two or three. I mean look at Tekken. Nina is basicly it's Sonya(please do not quote this and give endless reasons why sonya is better),and look what happened when she got her game. Do you really want that to happen to Sonya. Be happy Sonya is even still included in the games at all. Remember the first version of the arcade beta of MK1 she was not even in the roster so be thankful.

Like I said, popularity won't determine who's more likely to get their own movie, game, etc. Otherwise Scorpion would always be the central character of every game, movie, toon, etc if that were true and he never is.

I think that's enough proof for you, and remember it cuz the reason these debates go on forever is because you tards always make me repeat myself (as I already have).

The devs have their own bias regarding the characters, and unless your blind or stupid, you'd see that they favor Sonya over the other females:

Hasn't Ed Boon stated that Sonya is his favorite female or one of his overall favorite characters?

And if you genuinely believe there's only a handful of Sonya fans, you're delusional. Sorry, but that's just funny. She, Kitana, and Mileena have always been fan favorites.

Something you guys need to remember when considering MKSF, was that the lead designer John Tobias abandoned the project and it was picked up by someone else halfway through.

Another (very reasonable) explanation for Jax's inclusion over Sonya's was that Jax was more complete than Sonya was at that point, and Midway wanted to just rush the game out, so the more incomplete character (who happened to be Sonya) was nixed.

I guess we can scratch that then. I'll edit my post.

This thread!

Ok, but I meant that "there is no contest": Kitana is simply MORE than Sonya has ever been. It's fact, not opinion: on the other hand, stuff like "Sonya is awesome because she is blond" is opinion.

LMAO!

I was so close to writing a nice response to your posts, but, after your incredible statement about “science”, “facts”, and “rabid crazy fans”, do forgive everyone for not taking you seriously.

Your science:

-It tells you only 3 regular users love Sonya.
-It also tells you not to count ALL the other ones who happen to like her as much (how conveniently interesting), just cause they are not regular posters and as vocal. (....)
-It tells you MK3 was the last game (before MKvsDC) were she was as presented with such a strong continued presence and prominent promotion.....are you serious? You clearly have no idea about the sort of promotion and prominent material that happened during MK4, MKDA, and MKA.
-It tells you that you are right because “that’s what you see”, therefore, all Sonya fans (sorry, the 3 Sonya fans, lol) are wrong.
-It tells you Sonya’s been in the games only to please those 3 or very very few fans who like her. Gezz, I have to wonder why she’s so damn popular and prominent in promotion and story if it’s only done for 3 fans. -__-
-And so many other “scientific” things I’m too lazy to type ‘cause it’s really not even necessary or worth it.

Well, your science clearly forgot facts about how Sonya was promoted and prominently used in MK4, MKDA, and even MKA for important promotional matters, just like MKvsDC. The only difference is that MKvsDC brought it back big and loud (and not just with her, but with the other selected few who got the shot to shine). MKvsDC did it bigger than ever before because it was selling to the world the best of the best of its list of most recognizable and popular characters during Midway’s last days. Oh yeah, and considering how important this is, Sonya’s role and prominence in this game pretty much says it all.

Mk4, MKDA and MKA did it loud, just not as much. And even so, do take a look back and see who was the one female who was used for game covers, game trailers, videogame shows, events such as E3, etc etc etc (and while I’m at this I wanna give 3 big cheers to Mileena for getting her own crown thanks to her impeccable and superb MKD appearance!).

Btw, you kind of need to check your scientific statement regarding videogame’s and show’s appearances (I won’t bother correcting you). And while you are at it, who was the female who was never scratched out of a main MK fighting game cause of “lack of time” or to replace her with some other characters more than just once? Hasn’t Sonya almost always been the first female confirmed for the games? Just like Scorpion and Subby tend to be the first males to be confirmed, she is always the first confirmed lady among the first top confirmed characters of a roster.

Yeah, but your science needs to seriously check its facts and evidence.

I won’t get involved in this stupid argument about who is better or who is more popular, but you are biased even if you say you are not, and very arrogant if you think you have all the “evidence”, and “facts” that make your “science” the “science of the MK world”.

And think before you write about “rabid and crazy” fans, or else you risk looking stupid.

*sarcasm* Your science = flawed (‘cause you forgot to add Leo in your list!! *gasp*) *end sarcasm*

Yeah, to hell with this very stupid argument. I won’t even bother or dare to mention Kitana ‘cause: Kitana rocks, she’s a great character who I happen to like, and this is news ABOUT Sonya and have nothing to do with Kitana.

I’m just one very happy Sonya fan because it’s evident and clear how much this character has been used in the past (till the most recent game) to promote MK and treated with love always giving her awesome new designs, Fatalities, special moves, etc, for the many fans who like her (or should I just say “the 3 fans” who like her? lol).

Again, this whole trademark thing might be something else, but, whatever, it is definitely interesting and good to have some news. I certainly hope its big news and big plans for Sonya and Mortal Kombat.

Awesome.



It’s so nice to see you are still around this part of the world! I’ve been lost dealing with life (reason why I haven’t been around as much as before), but I certainly agree with your views and can’t think of anything new to add (at the moment, hehe).

While I don’t think any movies, or tv shows are coming out anytime soon, I do believe its possible, and Sonya is definitely a good and interesting choice. A powerful female with potential and a great role model. Great post buddy!



, no need to. I don’t think it’s necessary or important to argue about something that is likely to lead to nowhere.



Actually, wasn’t Sonya supposed to be the main character?

They were gonna show her entire story way before the first tournament till the events that occurred at the beginning and end of MK1 when she decided to board the ship and join Liu Kang, Johnny Cage and Rayden. I even remember an interview that talked about her boarding the ship and encountering the first MK villains, etc, than the whole other story with Jax looking for her ‘cause she went missing after boarding the ship to Shang Tsung’s island. There was a point where her side of the story and his side were supposed to jump from one to the other and finally connect in the end of the game.



Well said. And yeah, I need to get back to your PM ASAP! (I promise! I always write ). Hope all is well.

Anyway, I want to hear more news about this. Might be nothing, but it might be so much more.

Jesus Christ. One more Kitana vs Sonya post and people are going to start getting two week bans. I am so sick of reading this stupid shit in every thread about either character. These are fictional video game characters, not real people. Put the effort into arguing about something important.

Hahaha thank you. I can't believe how detailed these arguements actually are over something so trivial. It's crazy

Can't believe I missed out on the fun in here! Seriously, I think people are reading too much into the whole trademark deal, and the fact that it somehow became a Sonya-Kitana discussion is just plain silly.
Pretty soon, when more of these licenses are brought in (there are 60+ characters, right?), I'm sure the next batch of threads will be saying, "OMG SMOKE GETS TRADEMARKED! HE'LL GET HIS OWN MOVIE!" or "Chameleon will get his own game! Imagine morphing between ALL TeH NINJAS! "
Is this good news? Personally, I think it's the equivalent to reading any trademark law; a rule with nothing but illegible legalese that won't have much impact on the series.

I've got 50 bucks on Mokap being the next trademark. You heard it here first.

CD-ROM? lol

Long time, no see (and posting )

As always, I'm waaaaaaay too late to take an important participation in this discussion. On the other hand, people take the trademarking thing of Sonya a bit too seriously I think. To me, this means nohing special yet. Although I'd like to see Sonya taking the main stage in some kind of spin-off game.

I don't think it's gonna happen though. The next game should be a normal MK game, following up MKA. I really wanna know how the stry continues.

I seriously agree with this.

Though it is a bit suspiscious, I doubt it's anything special.