Capcom also didn't have to remove core components of its gameplay for the crossover to work. Capcom didn't have to sell-out to get Marvel to do a crossover with them.

BATMAN?!?!?!? SUPERMAN?!?!?!? WHAT THE F*CK?!?! How is that going to work? I thought Superman was the definition of the word "invincible!" And what makes you think Sub-Zero COULD defeat Batman? Have you EVER heard of Mr. Freeze? Good Lord, people!

true, but I support the decision of doing away with fatalities, They haven't been anything special post MK2 anyways and the limitations on the finishers will force the MK team to get creative instead of rehashing the same tired formula we've seen over and over and over again

Absolutely agree, fatalities got boring and their appeal seemed to wear off when they made the switch to 3D. I'm looking forward to seeing some awesome finishing moves with over-exaggerated power, brutal beatings and wicked choreography. Oh, and I made this for the "baraka- how is he gonna handle low violence" thread but it got closed, so I thought I'd put it here:

Instead of doing away with them, they could have spent the time to try and improve them. I personally love fatalities either way. Why can't they be creative with violence? It isn't difficult, but noooo DC has to go and say 'oh you can't rip them apart.' Until I heard that there were no fatalities, I was considering buying the game for the sole purpose of being able to mutilate DC heroes.

God I sound like a psychopath

because the team behind this game reached their creative peak in 2002 and things regressed from DA on. I honestly feel the MK team has to be forced into changing things at this point or we'd we'd just get another Armageddon. if anybody else was were making these games I'd be inclined to agree with you, but this is Ed Boon and his band of halfassed misfits we're talking about. who have proved time and time again that they have no clue how to make a functional fighting game.

I actually liked DA-A, they're fun to play. Sure Armegeddon could have used a coherent storyline and whatnot but it was still a good game. I like to think of KAF more as KAB {Kreate a Brutality} since mostly you just beat them up until you get bored and pull their head off. It was rather interesting to be able to choose how you delt with your opponent IMO. I'm not saying the games were perfect, merely not as bad as people made them out to be.

Thats the problem though, they shouldn't need to use this game to lay the foundation for a future game. It just comes across as half assed, and turning it's back on half the principles that built the series in the first place. If they need more time to work on a true sequal then let the development team spend another year or 2 working on it, rather than giving us a half assed game.

Given nobody has really seen how it plays, and I'm saving that as my final deciding point on the game once I see it in action.

Sure their fun, but they're laughable when compared to other fighters, the gore does not make up for halfassed gameplay which is something hopefully the MK team has learned by now. Mortal Kombat is a franchise riddled with wasted untapped potential.

True that other fighters are more respected now, but that doesn't mean MK isn't good in it's own rights. It has one of the best storylines out of every fighter I've played, if not the best. If they can make the gameplay and the fighting work well to make up for DC being in it, I'll at least rent it.

LOL! at all the people who say that they will not buy this game. I'm also laughing at the people who say they will just rent the game.

You all know that you are going to buy this game.


That is the reason why you keep comming back here looking for more news about the game. You want to see what else the game has to offer to get you hyped up to buy it. I suspect that some of you are merely putting up a front to seem "cool" or something to that effect, by saying that you will not buy the game. I haven't the slightest idea why feining non-interest in this game is so important. What am I missing here?

I'm looking forward to this game. My only worry is that the game will play like shit off and online. MKA pissed me off with the level of nonsense that the gameplay flaws allowed. The broken, infinite air juggles come to mind when I think of MKA online. Thank Jebus air combos did not make a return in MK vs DCU.

If the only thing you guys are mad about is the inclusion of DC characters, heaven help you. What you should be mad at are the potentially game-breaking flaws that may rear their ugly heads if this game is not properly tested by hardcore players.


Peace

I don't know about most people, but I only come back to see if there might be something change my mind and make me want to buy it. I'm not trying to sound "cool" by saying I wont buy the game, if DC didn't suck then I'd have no problem buying the game. In fact if DC were more like Marvel, Image, or Dark Horse I probably wouldn't think twice about buying it. Now if the game is good enough I might consider buying it if I like the rental. {i need more games in my 360 library anyways}

However with the ending of Armegeddon we don't know if it'll be canon or not and that's what I think most people are worried about. This was just the wrong time to do a crossover. Had they waited until after an MK that explained Armegeddon's impact on the story or if Armegeddon was just a thing they did to hold us over and the next game picked up after Deception, I doubt people would be as reluctant to buy the game. Alot of the hate is probably because Boon lied to us and said the game would go back to its roots and the removal of fatalities is completely the opposite.

PREACH!!!! You said it all.

I hope that because of the co-working with DC they will learn a lot. Take a good look at batman begins. They should reinvent MK in the same way. Surely a good idea for the next real MK. They can learn from this game when it is all over and the peoples at DC that they worked with.

Boon said in a interview.."this isn't superfriends..this is batman begins.."
I get his point about that this game being way more serious and darker..but still..this game is really Alien VS Predator.Actually a bad example since those universes are already connected thru comics ..but you know what I mean...blockbuster stuff. Next time they should try the Batman Begins concept. I think that would bring MK more to justice. Maybe I'm wrong when the game is actually out, but this is how it looks/sounds sofar.

lets take a step into Batman and Sub-Zero's own personal historys. Batman punches people on top of buildings and throws bat shaped objects at people. hes an undercover crimefighter.


SubZ runs an army of ICE NINJAS. he has been known to PULL THE SPINAL COLUMNS OF HIS VICTIMS out of there back. he can FREEZE PEOPLE WITH A SINGLE TOUCH.


Batman fights people like green haired clown rapists,fat rich guys in tuxes..........if batman was interesting enough to watch id make fun of the rest of the villans but..........



SubZ WITHOUT HESITATION fights people like a ninja who shoots spears out of his limbs and breaths fire and lives in HELL,an indian who shoots lightning out of a hatchet,fires arrows of pure energy,transforms into a wolf and has been known to zap his enemys with an alien like beam of....enrgy doom stuff,he fights folks like Kabal who is a Black Dragon mercinary weilding hookswords and runs faster then flash wishes he could.




do the math,Undercover elderly bat person with absolutly NO POWERS AT ALL vs. a badass ICE NINJA with the ability (as far as the game is concerned) to BEAT HIS ENEMIES SENSLESS WITH THERE SPINES.





Who wins?

Do your homework on character before talking shit about him. Batman has taken down bigger and badder enemies than Sub-Zero, anybody with any real knowledge of the character knows that. The closed minded ignorance of both fan bases (the DC boards are just as bad) are the biggest problem facing this game.

and how exactly do people like Joker,The Penguin,Mr.Freeze compare to people like Scorpion,Liu Kang,Nightwolf,Baraka,Fujin,Kung Lao,Raiden,Reptile and the rest of the people who comit three murders before breakfast. you dont seem to understand that after they made a way to power down Superman,they killed DC.Face it Superman was DCs winning ticket,but now theyre all going to get frozen,speared,ignited,punched in the nads,decapitated,eaten,doused in acid,torn in half,de-limbed and............beaten up............alot.

Well you obviously know nothing about DC...but do you even know anything about Mortal Kombat? Every character has a Fatality move, this is true...but how many characters actually "commit three murders before breakfast?"

Sub-Zero is well-known for his mercy. Liu Kang and Kung Lao are Shaolin monks who try NOT to kill whenever possible. You actually expect me to believe that Nightwolf is a mass murderer? You can count the actual murders the good guys have commited on one hand.
Meanwhile, Scorpion rushes into any battle and frequently lets his anger cloud his judgment....easily beaten by any sufficiently skilled fighter with a modicom of discipline. Reptile and Baraka are animalistic brutes....not known for their intelligence.
Meanwhile, DC has characters like Wonder Woman, who's just as strong as Superman, one of their best fighters, and has fought & killed gods.

ok 2 things 1:i stole that "Three murders before breakfast" from this http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/48-Grand-Theft-Auto-IV for comic effect,apperently lost on your narrow-minded self. your over reacting is making you miss the point,HORRIBLY

2.on the whole Liu Kang and Kung Lao thing,look at the game "Shaolin Monks".........large amounts of murders.........


my point is the fact that DCs sttrongest (Wonder woman hasnt been confirmed) are being powered down,even if they werent,there gonna get beat. Superman loses his super strength and flying,Batman loses..............nothing except his manhood when Sub-Zero ices his powerless ass.

I don't play Grand Theft Auto.

The murders in Shaolin Monks were non-canon. Confirmed by Boon himself.


And calling me narrow-minded after all this nonsense you've been spouting about both MK and DC........I hope the irony isn't lost on you, because it's not lost on me.

{sips coke while watching.} mhm...mhm...mhmmmmm...yep...mhm...

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you dont need to play GTA4 to get the joke he says. plus i dont understand your taking offense to my hatred of DC and superhero companies in general. we both have opinions. quite frankly i was just saying this (before being interupted by Xiahou Dumbass): Batman is a regular person whos only strong point is his ability to invent things that defeat (not finish off) his enemies. how could he possibly defeat sub-zero?? before anyone else responds,ask yourself "Could i kill Sub-Zero?" oh and before you tell me "well you should ask yourself 'can i kill batman?'" ill answer that now:no i cant,im a teenager. but what i can do is walk away alive from a fight with batman.

Anyone who's complaining about there being little blood and no fatalities is a fuckin moron. If you just want blood, go play Manhunt or something. Blood and violence isn't a big deal.

For anyone who form their opinion on DC based on all the shows and movies is an idiot. Go read anything about Batman, and tell me he doesn't make every MK to date look as dark as a kid reading the cat in the hat. Besides, MK isn't even that dark. Well, MK3 and MK4 were kind of dark but every other MK game isn't. How the hell is Motor Kombat dark? How about Animalities? Oh noes, Shang Tsung turned that guy into a baby! IT'S SO F*CKING DARK!!!! >_>

The people who think that MK and DC just don't match up are the only people who make any sense. MK and DC don't match up, but complaining about DC being too kiddy and that it's rated T is just stupid. I bet half the people complaining about this game being too kiddish aren't even old enough to actually buy an M rated game!

Btw, I can't wait for this game. Both series kick ass imo, and seeing Batman and Sub-Zero fighting was just awesome. Besides, everyone knows that when the game comes out, most of you are gonna buy it.

i agree 2/3 of the way. for MK violence and blood are pretty important. so are the fatalities. how can you imagine Scorp without him shooting a rope spear into someones heart while cups of blood spill about? either way your right dude and all this defending and offending and complaining wont stop this game from being made. but the anarchy fueled side of me thinks this war will be very entertaining! im waiting for it to be all panned out,but im prepared to fight for MK due to my hatred of superheroes.

apparantly we aren't allowed to hate DC.