I heard that you're making stuff up.



He's probably being told to keep his mouth shut by the higher ups. I can't blame them after the last few games where Boon runs his mouth off and then fails to deliver on what he said. It's better this way.

Wow. So this is how Mortal Kombat is going to take back its status as an awesome fighting game... by making it NOT Mortal Kombat? I'm all for evolution of the series but COME ON!!! Midway allowed Boon and company to recycle the shit out of their own material for MKD and MKA (they both were obviously beefed-up versions of Deadly Alliance). Now they're going to recapitulate someone else's content!?!?? If it's not yet apparent to the buying public, it's now official: Boon and company have no originality left in terms of crafting a quality MK game.

This is the kind of watered-down bullshit that Hollywood does with 90% of its films... they take a good thing, then they make it and RE-make it until it's nothing but low-quality spin-offs and adaptations of preexisting films, books and (God forbid) video games. "Freddy vs. Jason"... "Alien vs. Predator"... were these great monster/ horror films? HELL NO! Hollywood does this all for the sole purpose of putting money in its pockets and putting gas in its Mercedes Benz. The subject matter of most Hollywood movies today seems to cater to the lowest common denominator to appeal to more people and increase box office sales (which are low these days anyway).

The difference here (and the reason I think this MK/DC crossover is a huge dumb-ass decision) is that the gaming industry is not falling apart like Hollywood is. In fact, last time I checked, it's pretty much booming all over the world. If ever there was a time for Mortal Kombat to reclaim its status as one of the greatest, most unique fighting series ever, it's right now. Even though the past 3 games have basically been the same game (just slightly "upgraded"), they were just a lot of fun to play. People laid down their cash and Midway made bank on them. So, in my opinion, the MK team has already gained back enough cred. to produce a new, truly original Kombat game of their own.

I know this wasn't all Boon's doing (although I'm sure he's been kissing plenty of executive ass lately). However, Midway is a big corporation and, from their greedy perspective, I understand why they've decided to go this route. The MK Series has a relatively small cult fan-base (that'd be us), and I'm sure they're grasping at straws to make it more palatable to a newer, broader audience. So, I guess they feel that they'll be able to do that by associating the MK series with preexisting characters that are MUCH more popular than their own. In my opinion, this is a huge cop-out. If Midway had any dignity at all, they'd be kicking Boon's ass to completely revamp MK into the badass fighter that made it so great in the beginning. But, in typical Midway fashion, they've gone for the easy way -- the "quantity over quality" way.

To me, the gaming world is pretty exciting right now because just about any game can blow up and be the next big thing if its made well. Ever hear of a game called Halo? When its first installment came out, it was barely a footnote at CES. The public took hold of it though, and now it's probably the most popular game franchise because of its originality. Bungie's gone to great lengths to maintain that reputation by making each Halo installment significantly better. They don't rush the creative process just to feed the masses. They believe in their fans, they keep it fresh and they still build on the strong points of that original game that was barely noticed -- without recycling over half of the old material.

Remember when Grand Theft Auto was a simple little 2-D top-down driving game with rather primitive graphics? Guess what...it was a GREAT game and still is. GTA also continues to get better because, even though it's now rendered in full 3-D, Rockstar has remained true to the core formula that made the original so popular: Run errands for outlaws in an open-ended environment, drive recklessly, get respect, lose respect, evade the cops, KILL the cops... The game's the same, it just looks better and continues to build on its own success.

The point is, these 2 successful games know their strengths and keep building on them. It seems like this crossover idea does the exact opposite -- no more fatalities? No more fresh new characters or backstory? And I highly doubt that this game will stir up an ounce of controversy due to its extreme violence and dark, supernatural undertones. Weren't those the things that sucked you into it?

I hope I'm wrong on this but, I think this is the beginning of the end for MK. regardless of how awesome MK/DC's graphics are, it'll most-likely end up being just another mediocre offering from the cheap sluts at Midway. Get out your #2 pencils and mark my words guys: in 2010 we'll see the release of MK9, and it'll recycle at least half of its content from this MK/DC turd that's about to drop from Boon's ass. Too bad, because I never in a million years thought that the MK team would give up on its own franchise and its own fans by bastardizing Mortal Kombat with a crossover like this.

Like I said, I hope I'm all wrong about this. If the gameplay is great, then it could mean great things to come, but the mere idea of a crossover is just retarded when you're Ed Boon and you have a huge palette of your own original characters and storylines to breathe new life into. MK8 could have been a great opportunity for them to do that. It's ironic too because that's exactly how DC does it... they reinvent (not recycle) their own characters. They change artists. They put their heroes into new worlds and write new, in-depth stories to keep people wanting more. Maybe Midway should consider these things and learn a lesson from their pals at DC rather than trying to ride on the coattails of their success.

As a long time fan of MK, I'm pretty offended that Boon is giving up on his fans like this and you ought to be too. Unless this game totally blows me away with some truly amazing and innovative gameplay, there's no way I'm buying this piece of commercial trash. Don't get on this bandwagon just cuz you're an MK fanboy. If it's a commercial flop, maybe someone will get the message and decide it's time to make the MK game we've all been waiting for.

Agreed. It sorta makes me wonder though... if MK8 actually were going to be something more in the vane of MK2, how many MK fans do you think would be truly pissed off that Batman and Superman weren't going to be in the game?

I have huge respect for Ed Boon, being the creator of MK (along with Tobias), but just because a guy can create a masterpiece once doesn't mean they'll continue to deliver (George Lucas, anyone?).

I watched the interviews with Boon on MKvsDC, and the thing I notice over and over again is that his inspiration for this "game" was a "magical dream" to see two characters from two universes fighting each other. Hey, Superman vs. Spider-man? Why not Batman vs. Sub-Zero?

Why not?

Because Boon is comparing apples with oranges when he talks about seeing Scorpion and Batman meeting each other; just hearing him say "So Batman is in Gotham City, and then he suddenly runs into Scorpion-" It doesn't sound cool at all, it sounds comical. It sounds like the beginning of a dumb bar joke. Only after a few moments of recovery and careful consideration would I begin to think of it as...kind of interesting. But isn't that how most of us reacted? Most of us were knocked off our feet, chuckling, thinking it was a joke. The idea is just so hard to take seriously; Comic book heroes in spandex costumes and utility belts going up against mystic fighters from an asian mythology-based universe? Mortal Kombat WOULD pair well with another arcade fighting game like Killer Instinct.

Mortal Kombat vs. Killer Instinct - A game I would buy in a heartbeat. Like MK, the KI universe has FATALITIES - right there a perfect match. In addition, KI is owned by Midway as well, so they wouldn't need to ask permission from anyone. I think it would've appealed to fanbase better overall, since probably many who played MK in the acrade were familiar with KI; not everyone who plays MK is a comics buff, and thus DC would be a difficult opponent for them to visualize. Plus it would be a thrill just to see all my favorite KI characters brought back to life after so many years.

How did that idea not come across Boon's brain as he was brainstorming for a crossover game? Why have a crossover game at all? Heck, I personally don't even care that much for better graphics and all, I just want a brand new MK game with good ol' fatalties, full gore, classic characters, and maybe a few new ones...

I'm really hoping ThePredator151's hoax theory is right.

The problem is that KI is owned by Rare.

Rare is owned by M$.

This means that the only system this hypothetical MK vs KI game could come out on the 360.

This game has already stirred up tons of controversy , this thread you posted in proves this point. This IS the most controversial Mortal Kombat game since this series inception. Read my sig.

Is it wrong for me to think that this game doesn't really exist, but its a big joke to get everyone off the trail of what they're really doing?

Like instead of releasing real renders of new characters, they're releasing what looks like the same ole same ole.

Nice rant.

I gotta say, you read like G4TVs' Xplay host, Adam Sessler fir some reason. meh...




No, it's not wrong. I think it's a calculation that has grounds, and has good reasoning associated with it. Everything's a little.....sub-par to be completely "official" iMo. Warrants questioning....I called it on page 4 in this thread but, of course we'll have to wait and see. I'll let it go after E3.

Mortal Kombat has been "sub-par" for the better part of a decade so this shouldn't surprise you. like a previous poster said before, I'm not worried about DCU sucking or damaging Mortal Kombat, I'm worried about the MK team sucking and damaging DCU. DC has been around for the better part of a century and has some of the most recognizable characters in any form of media and has helped spawn the careers of some of the best writers in literary history ( Alan Moore,Grant Morrison, Frank Miller ect.,) Mortal Kombat on the other hand is fighting game franchise thats almost ran itself into the ground time and time again due to piss poor release after piss poor release and with its last incarnation completely raped the ONE thing it still had going for it: It's storyline.

My point is this:

The biggest problem facing MK Vs DCU is MORTAL KOMBAT and the game's half-assed creators.



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Oooh well now c'mon, they usually don't suck on their entry content to the new console generation. And, alot of the ideas that go into the games don't suck either...it's just what counts that's questionable...the execution. lol!

Anywho, MKDA looked really good for what it was trying to do back then. MKSM and MKD did really well regardless....But, they usually do quite well on cosmetic qualities, and or overall presentation of the games. That's something that I find particularly odd about this iterations pre-release content pertaining to my "sub-par" comment. It's unusual that it looks so bad right now.

I mean, especially if we consider how bizzare and transparent the gimmick is to begin with.

I don't question the gameplay because I didn't like alot about it from MKDA-A. Also, with the exception of MKA, it's pretty easy to say "they sucked", in hindsight like that.

And lastly, there's one good point I've learned from a spat with some other guy over on the Midway boards pertaining to how MK and it's creators could hurt Warner Bros//DC, and it's that they may actually contribute to decreasing the value of DC's character licenses thereafter, IF the game does tank.

Other than that, you're gonna have to explain how MK could possibly hurt DC. It's quite the opposite iMo, because MK only has MK to bank on.

They got too much going for them to have any real anxiety about what ultimately happens with this game. If it goes good = "Great, they got out the rut of bs fighting games with their superheros involved in them"...If it tanks = "Welp, back to the drawing board..again".

Like I say, they got too much other bigger stuff going on- three major movies happening between now and summer next year. Batman, The Spirit, and Shazzam = waaay more possible money than this little crossover game could yeild. Not to mention Smallville and the "thousand" cartoons//animes going on or coming out. But yea, you'll have to explain "MK hurts DC" to me...

I don't mean hurt financially, I mean hurt in the sense of doing a disservice to the brilliant minds that made them endure the test of time for example : Batman and Robin (the film) was a cinematic slap in the face to Bill Finger, Bob Kane, Frank Miller, Jim Lee,Jeph Loeb, Alan Moore.....ect.. Hopefully Midway can can wow us all and deliver something great, hell at this point they don't really have a choice given the financial shape they're due to crapfest that was Stranglehold.

OH...okay. A dis-service. I get that.

But then again, how is a disservice not inevitable? Whenever a book(novel, scripture, what have you) is translated to an animated//full motion art form...the characters always suffer.

I don't think doing them justice is possible. Especially considering all the opinions out there of how he "should be" interpreted. See what I'm saying?

I get your point though.

True, but there have been a few gems IE Tim Burtons Batman and Chris Nolan's Batman Begins, but thats film and not a video game. The MK team can't even do Mortal Kombat justice let alone cultural icons like Batman and Superman.

Well, it's been about a month since I've been to this site after hearing the news and seeing the trailer. I was angry and disappointed at what MK8 turned out to be, and after coming back and seeing the screenshots/renders of Scorpion, Batman and Superman, I can now say that it's exactly what I thought it was, and I'm not interested one bit.

This is the first time that I think I'll actually wait to see the scores and possibly rent an MK game before just going out and buying it. I'll admit, the two background images look pretty darn good, but the whole idea of this game just bothers me.

1. The story: Remember Marvel vs Capcom 2? They didn't need to have a story, you just went in and picked your dream team, then you'd fight to unlock more characters, play against friends etc. I used XMen's Wolverine, Spiderman's Venom and Darkstalker's Felicia.

But there wasn't some lame attempt to try and shoehorn a story into the game that would somehow make it believable and thus passable to fans of their favorite series within the game.

Now we have "worlds colliding" and Batman's in Gotham city and oh look! There's Scorpion! Worlds are colliding!

I don't fault the writers of the game. If I were a writer on this team, I'd feel like I was using a Louisville slugger to hit a live grenade. It's just dumb to try and pass off MK vs DC as anything other than what it is.

2. The next gen factor: How can Ed Boon use this game to bring MK into the next generation? MK:DA was a complete reimagining of the series in terms of looks and gameplay, but this is, well, not so much.

Also, for being a next gen game, I simply hate the fact that this idea was done somewhere around a decade ago. MvC was great in it's time, but fighting games are a rare breed these days and even Street Fighter bowed out for a long time.

I only bring that up because this game is a gamble that Midway shouldn't be taking. Okay, fine. The previous story was coming to an end. I'm okay with that. Alot of fans had resigned themselves to the fact that most of their favorite characters wouldn't be seen again.

Now it turns out... Nope, all of the big time characters will probably return, but against a different series. Simply put, this isn't a sequel, and it's nothing that MK fans nor DC fans actually want to see or play.

3. The wow factor: I'll say this. I have always been really excited about new MK games. Even if MK4 wasn't all that impressive, and MK:D was kinda just a fan service sequel to MK:DA (the characters that fans wanted plus the overall look and gore), the trailers still always made me excited for these games.

But honestly, were any of you really excited after seeing the trailer? Did the gameplay moments excite you? The idea of fighting while falling? The graphics? Did anything make you say "oh man I can't wait for this!?

I went into the trailer with an open mind, telling myself that if it looked like fun, I'd still be all over it. But it honestly looked like last gen animations coupled with more cooky ideas thrown in to replace the MUCH needed refining of the fighting engine of the previous games.


So yeah, would it be nice if Ed were just pulling our leg? Sure, but I seriously doubt that DC would lend their characters to Ed so that he could pull a fast one on the fans. This is happening for better or worse.

It's sad, because this game isn't coming out until October, but I'm already thinking about what Ed will do with this series next. Will the MK team simply make MK vs DC 2? A different versus game? Or will he give the thousands (perhaps millions) of loyal fans what they've been wanting since MK:A came out and give us a truly new, unique MK only experience?

I dunno, I just don't get why Ed thought that this would be the way to bring the series into the next generation. To retire the past MK series and give us... this. I'm not going to say that it's a slap in the face to long time fans or whatever. I don't think that Ed or the MK team as a whole was trying to spit on their long time fans.

To me, this just shows that the MK team is sorely lacking in creative instinct/ability. I don't know if it happened when John Tobias left, but the MK team has been taking this series down hill for a while now.

A storyline that no longer makes sense due to a multitude of plot holes, new characters that simply don't spark with fans like the old ones did, and gameplay that's so out of date it's almost laughable in comparison to the Soul Calibur's and even DOA's of the world. It seems like the MK team has simply tried using gimmicks to mask their own ineptitude.

That might sound harsh, and it is, but I can't think of any other reason why the MK team continues to ignore what the fans really want. MK fans want an MK game that they can be proud of; to be able to show their hardcore fighting game friends or MK hating friends or whom ever that MK is a serious fighting game and not just a shock inducing blood bath with some old nostalgic characters thrown in.

They want an MK game with a grown up story, modern gameplay, the best graphics, and no short cuts taken. I'd wait five years for this game if I thought the MK team could pull it off. Instead, we get hit with "oh look, it's batman fighting subzero!" To me, it's just smoke and mirrors. I have a feeling that I'm supposed to be so impressed that this is happening that I should ignore the fact that the gameplay, graphics and premise of the game simply don't seem to be up to par at this point.

And by par, I mean 1st generation PS3/Xbox 360 games.

Sorry for the long rant, but it's just frustrating to know that a new MK game is coming out and I have such little interest in it. I mean, I grew up on this series. I'm not averse to change. I was fine with the idea of starting over. But this isn't starting over. This isn't what Boon hinted at a while back in terms of changing MK forever.

This is a game that's built on the worst aspects of the MK team's view on game creation; Focus on all that is unnecessary to making an MK game fun for the fans and just shovel a whole bunch of crap at them because quantity is better than quality.

I sound alot angrier than I am, but it's just disheartening. I love DC and I love MK, but I still see absolutely no reason why the MK team feels the need to waste all of this development time on something as uninteresting as this concept seems to be.

I mean, look at all of the game sites. No one is talking about this game and they haven't talked about it since the trailer was announced. It was a blip on the radar in terms of initial shock factor, but after that, well, it's going to have to be judged on the merits of it's gameplay and the MK team simply hasn't been on the level of Namco, Team Ninja, Sega etc, only now, they'll be bringing this game out with the hopes that DC fans will love it and MK fans will begrudgingly accept it.

Personally, until I see some sterling reviews that tell me that this game is cooler far beyond it's concept, I have no intention of forking over the money to support this.

This Game will be pretty good, I'm looking forward to it's release!! Finnally a game I have my two boys in, Batman and Scorion. They are like the best from both sides. The two of them together is kick ass.

Here's my 2 cents:

Take it or leave it.


It's that easy folks. No one is twisting your arm to play this game. Midway made a concious decision to make this game, let them prove themselves when the game is released in November.

If their past track record is any indication of how this game will turn out game-play wise, what difference does it make? I have yet to see any MK game that blows me away game-play wise. The story hasn't made sense since MK2 so again, what difference does it make that DC characters are in the game?

If this had been a pure MK game, you all would have no doubt complained about it anyway. With that said, what difference does it make? You guys will never, I repeat, never be satisfied with this franchise. Either make suggestions on how Midway can make the game better such as improved game-play and characters that wil appear or, just give it a rest.

Your ranting about DC characters being in the game will not solve anything.


Peace

Someone in this community gets it. if this was a pure MK game the fans would have complained. I wanted something different from this franchise and I'm finally getting it so in that sense Im satisfied, but will the actual game be good? that question still remains to be answered.

I've ranted before but..I'm in a ranty mood so I wanna do it again.

First off:

Okay, I'll admit due to my hate of DC I was biased from the beginning and overall pissed beyond reasoning. I hate everything DC has to offer except Lobo and Doomsday, and I only like Doomsday because he killed Superman. Seriously, Superman's life is so fucking perfect. He has a great job and a girlfriend and everything. Whoopdie fuckin' doo, sooooo interesting. And Batman, sure he lost his parents and is crazy as hell, but he's rich, that's gotta outset some of his pain. Most of the DC characters live's are usually just too good for me to enjoy the characters. I need some pain and suffering now and then dammit! {which is why I like Marvel and Image}

Second:

The gameplay looks good, I'll give it that, but that's based on a trailer in which we have no fucking clue how the Free fall works or Klose Kombat works so it might fail completely. I loved DA-A {anyone notice how there's D, and then A, and before those was DA? anybody at all?}. Sure not all fans were happy and since Armegeddon's story was hard to piece together. {all though the game itself was fun} I don't think anyone knows how canon it is or if it's canon at all. Which is why this was the WRONG FUCKING TIME to do a crossover. Boon also promised us that the game was going back to it's roots and yet taking fatalities and lowering blood is almost the FARTHEST away from MK's roots you can get. Add another franchise and..oh wait they are adding another franchise! What do ya know Boon?! You've torn the damn franchise apart! You know, if it was in a less crucial point in the story, I might be less pissed off. {not much less but you get the idea}.

Whats your beef with DC beyond Superman? I can understand all the hate on Supes because like you said, his life is perfect.

Honestly, I think the direction of Mortal Kombat is currently on is a very bad idea. MK needs to return to its roots. Mortal Kombat wasnt ment to cross over into another universe, it made its own legendary one. We dont need DC.

The problem is that the MK storylines got sloppy, they discarded some of the abilities the characters had, IMO they got weak. I prefer the icewand over a blade anyday using subzero. I just think that Ed & co dosent really care about MK anymore and they have been doing it so long they lost the interest to keep it going. So they decided to team up with DC. to lighten the work load.

Mastermalone you fucken genius. Why oh why can't there be a 100 mastermalones on MKO?

Batman's rich to the point where he can afford just about everything he wants. now let's look at Green Arrow: Lost parents, got inheritance. Same thing. They pretty much all have good jobs or at least decent lives overall.

That and DC's Alernate Earth thing is just completely stupid. Supergirl dies on one Earth but lives on another as Powergirl I think but then there's Earth Prime where they all only exist as comics {AKA our world}. I think they straightened some of it out with the Crisis of Infinite Earths, but now they have Infinite Crisis, which just reversed Infinite and Crisis and removed 'of' and 'Earth'. Why can't DC call it something original? Another hate on DC: lots of similarities between character names. Batman, Catman, Superman, Supergirl, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Manhunter, Martian Manhunter, Hawkgirl, Hawkman...you see where I'm going with this?

and Batman and Superman's costumes are so gay, what's with the underwear being on the outside? The movie Batman's suit is way fucking darker and cooler, why not use that in the comics now? Sure some Marvel characters have the whole underwear wrong thing but at least the characters are more down to earth and more likeable due to their human characteristics. Superman is invincible to everything but magic and a green rock. Wow. There's absolutely nothing you can do to him unless you're an alien or a magician/demon. or if you have a rock.

I hope that helps you to understand my hate of DC.

I'll answer...I haven't ranted in a while so, here's a good read.



If they ignore the demand, they nullify their supply. Other games like SC4 did better so far, with no doubt pacifying the demand for their games' fans, while introducing something new and different with the SW characters. They campaigned better too. Waited to spark the controversy with the SW characters closer to the date of release.

To me, it said: "We're making a new SC game, look at all this cool stuff we did with the characters that you know and love....but wait, there's more!"

haha

Just saying there's a process of conditioning people to except something new and radical. You don't just shove it in people's face all of a sudden and expect people to "eventually come around" to it. You massage it into the mix.



The difference?

1. "Show and Prove". You show great things, then you prove that it is great. That's not happening. Right now, they're showing how "great" MKA could've been with DC characters in it.....and that, is not a great look. Their past record should be the one thing that they put right out front as something that they are trying to distance themselves from. Therefor, iMo, we should not have been shown anything that could look like this.

NO comparisons to last gen should have been allowed as a matter of stating change, and improvement. None.

Now, if gameplay is a selling point for anyone at this point, that picture should resonate with you as "they're doing it again". Because it looks the same. Regardless of what they're saying, it looks almost identical to last gens gameplay. Putting a twist on the camera angle doesn't matter one bit for free fall combat, because it's still "fighting in the air". If anything, it'll get annoying trying to execute, and people are gonna wanna turn it off. Because like I've said before, ground>air combat. Air combat should be there, but is should be limited to jumping, whether a character that has the ability to fly, or during launches. And that's it...no falling, no combative hovering, no whatever else people wanna call it. Niooo. Aheheh

2. DC characters are in the game. That's the difference. You're saying it like we should buy it again, because it was terrible before...Like; "Why expect more, just shut up and buy it." That's the vibe I get anyway..

If they're trying to "wipe the slate clean" as far as the story, they did a terrible job of it by bringing in another established franchises story into the mix. Lol What is DC, like 60-70 years old? Way to go...

"Bird in the hand", man. Dedicate the writers to MK story content. The only merger we should be seeing, is the merger between MK's story and gameplay.



Yea, people do that when a company doesn't show that they are either improving, or considering what they wanna buy. People complain even more when the companies conscious decision, doesn't constitute consciousness according to what thee source(Ed Boon) has been reporting since the last games' release. lol

I agree and disagree with fans never being satisfied. On the one hand, if they keep doing this type of thing with the game, then yea, Nobody will ever be satisfied...not even remotely. But on the other hand, if they complied -- no, if they capitalized on why people buy MK games, you'd see more hindsight criticisms than the pre. Which is what you want. You want to have people caught up in the moment. So much so, that they never give a thought as to whether or not to purchase the thing before it is released. It should be a given buy for the gaming community. Not just a selective few individuals like it is.

I was saying before that they shouldn't be "selling" MK to us by now, and especially coming over to these new consoles. We already know what MK is about traditionally. To an extent no doubt, that fans can re-create MK in the light that we'd like to see it officially venture. It's to a point where I believe they could hire fans to satisfy fans per character fanbase. Yes, I believe I could "treat" Raiden better than them at this point, and at least satisfy the Raiden fanbase(lol). I have No doubt, that there are Scorpion or Sub-Zero fans that have//could re-create those characters, to an extent that questions the MkTeams abilities to "wow" those characters fanbases in the same fashion. Let bleed=gameplay, Aculeus=artists, and XD84=story get a crack at Scorpion. Please. I'd probably like Scorpion after they finish with him, and I do-not like Scorpion. lol

Point here is, we know what's appropriate for these characters to look like, and how their attitudes and such should be presented. We know what feels right from their gameplay habits, we know their stories backwards and forwards. Weee knoow. lol Alright I'm being funny, but you see what I'm saying right?
Seems like we know this game better than they do, and they are not paying attention to that. Like, they don't have an intimate passion or intuition about it like MK's fans do. Which is cool cuz that's what happens with a fandom but, doesn't seem like they're paying attention at all. Terribly sad iMo....
By now, there should be a reason why any returning character wears what they wear, has the powers that they have, ect. Little silly fan services like that are in order by now.

The difference here, would be a cycled interest in the franchise (every 5-10 years you go back to the beginning again or something like that), and an un-dieing following as to why so many people stay so interested in MK. You'd keep the old fans intrigued, and constantly invite new fans to the franchise. I mean, as much as they try to "refresh" every so many games, they've gotta know that there is an integrity to maintain over time. There is an amount to which, you do actually have to "stay the same". Just depends on how you stay the same. See?

MK has an integrity, it's just not a prestigious integrity, aheh. MK's integrity, is a dirty, ugly, primal invested integrity. Having the "wow//fluff" integrity doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't, invest in themselves to introduce better gameplay for that demographic that prides other things about a game. Just says, recognize your flaw with other gamers, and massage that weakness into a strength.

Which means, you could keep M rated content, and get better gameplay over time. But they don't do that...do they? So instead of being predictable the way other franchises are with their content, MK's predictability is that they'll never mature. Oh, and that they'll erraticate everything after three or so games. aheheh..silly.

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Suggestions? Plentiful.

But out front I'd say:

1. Martial Arts Movie Choreography should motivate MKs main mechanic. Past, present, and future martial arts flicks. By now, it should look like we're controlling someone like Jackie Chan or Jet Li, instead of the blatant Bruce Lee rip offs of the past. This should have become more inherent in MKs gameplay mechanics, as martial arts in movies became more of a given main stay.

2. Open world, MMO-like Story mode. It's what people want to play right now, and there's more than enough content in MK to do it over and over and over again, in a slew of different ways. I mean, we have 6-10 realms in MK.

3. Interaction? Player Control? Use the clans in the Open world-MMO thing for interaction with other people(like for personal or clan missions and such). We have worlds to run around in right-now. Let us choose everything, and let us do it independently from other active players, and or with other people together. The only hard points in this "mode" should be the beginning, check points or obtainable items you'd need to progress the story, and the end of the story.

Don't take me out of the game if I don't want to come out of the game! Lol! Stop ending the game for me...stop choosing the character for me, stop telling me which way I must play the game in order to beat it, I wanna do all that. Haha...I wanna tell my friends how I beat it, and have it be different than how they beat it.
(replay value like crazy. Y'know how many times I played MKD's Konquest mode trying to find Liu Kang or whatever in there?)

Going through a story mode should let us pick the clan, what type of person within that clan, what they look like, how they develop, how we interact with other clans....action//reaction from being on other realms...ect

Not like this MKvsDC game seems to be predicting who we play with, up until what point, who we are able to switch into to carry the story on into the finish....and then, when we finish, we can only "go over to the other side" to get the other portion of the story. No no no no NO. It's an old execution method in concept, and nothing says it will optimize player control and interactivity.

Look to um, look to "Prototype" for a console based open world//MMO-like game. It looks almost exactly like what I'd imagine for MK. All the way down to the "super-human" abilities, and the M rated content. At it's worst, it's a shinning example of what any MK "Konquest Mode" should aspire to be.

4. The Krypt//Dojo. I'm going to have a Dojo in my game. It's a great relative-to-MK place to store all your savable shit. It's also a great place to go practice with or w/o an active second player (hell, put a sensei(s) in there and have him//her be a secret character). It's a great place to begin as a Khreated Fighter, to have a store where you can buy shit, and manipulate your character. From looks, to moves, and everything else. How come MK hasn't had a dojo yet?

5. Secrets//Codes, Arenas, and all that other stuff.

We don't need much actually. Just make sure there are some other things in the game to fascinate people further about MK. Secrets can be anything from a weapon with some crazy effect or power, to articles that inform us more about the characters and their backstories. (let us find the bios, there you go). Secrets can also be characters, but make it interesting and surprising by making them//finding them, a part of gameplay. "Grab a shadow" and Noob Saibot pops out or something crazy like that...To where it's relative to the character, but it's crazy to actually stumble on.

If you're gonna have Codes, make them relative. Put the blood code back, but add a kick dust(old martial arts flicks have kick//punch dust/powder) code, and start us off with nothing like in MK1. Manipulate the aesthetic per kick dust or blood code, and you're done. Codes to unlock fatalities, or more advanced move-sets would be good, but I think those things should be granted once the player shows their experience level heightened. You should probably have to buy a complex combo with experience points or something.

Anyway, Codes should "open sesame" things, "Secrets" we should have to work for(a puzzle, for example,is indicative of a secret). Like a new arena or a new part of the mmo thing. Go half downloadable content// half codes and secrets for this. That way, you get something "for free" in the codes for buying the game, and once we see that it is good, buying more from this game is no contest.

For Arenas, just make it so we come in contact with stuff that we couldn't in older games. Rock, Glass, Jelly, Water. Let that stuff effect the way we play in some of the arenas. Not all of them. Yes, we've had rock and glass before, but it never really gave players an advantage or a disadvantage. Like tripping over something would give the players a different aspect to how to attack or defend in that situation.
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There's a few suggestions for ya...got a thousand of them though.



Don't understand that way of thinking about anything.

"You're gonna die, and talking about it isn't gonna solve anything." (??)

Hu? I mean, of course we're all gonna die, but it doesn't mean you can't improve the quality of life as we know it.

Just because this is what they chose to run with, doesn't mean we shouldn't say anything about it. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be heard on the subject.
This game is more tangible an issue than death, I realize. But my point is, what's the defeatist attitude for? If anything, they need to listen up because, they loose if they don't listen. Regardless of the decision they made to go this route.

My bottom line nearing two months after the announcement?

I'm still not buying this shit as is. No way. They have to show me something that is definitively new, improved, and 100% Mortal Kombat. Damn shame I'm a fan of this franchise, sub-mod on this site, and more excited about SC4 & SF4 than MK8.