Nope. I also want to see some new people.
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06/11/2010 03:04 PM (UTC)
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Personally, I like the characters from MK1-3 the best, and only 3 or 4 from MK:DA-MK:A interested me. So it's either keep taking chances with new characters that seem to get less and less likable and unique as they come, or just refine the characters I know and love. I personally would take the latter.

Understandably...it's gotta be hard to keep coming up with anything fresh after your roster has grown so big. I mean, you may not realize how challenging that really is. Can you come up with 60 completely fresh and unique characters? I honestly doubt it...I bet you get to 20-30 and run out of ideas. There's only so many origin stories and powers etc. that one could fathom. Is it impossible? No...but you are wanting new characters, but we all know damn well that when they give us new characters, they end up being blander versions of something we already have. Then they are followed up with hate and are tossed aside for the for sure bet in the characters we all love either way. So you can't really blame them.

Also, can you think of another game franchise that has such a large roster of game characters all in one storyline, that they created themselves? I honestly can't think of any other one, especially not a fighter. And if there is one out there, it's highly likely that they are in the same situation as MK, because I doubt that all their characters are decent unique characters.

With that said...I am not against having 2-3 new characters as long as they are actually unique and serve a good purpose in the story. If not, I'd rather just stick with mainly the MK1-3 characters, and sprinkle in ones from MK4-MK:D(Daegon and Taven are the worst of the bunch only second to Mokap IMO), and just flesh them out more. Ones such as Kenshi, Drahmin, Havik, Hotaru, Asrah, Movado, Nitara, Li Mei, Reiko etc. I wouldn't mind given a chance to be explored a bit more.

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Bo Rai Cho
Mokap
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Daegon
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Darrius
Dariou
Kira
Cobra
Jarek
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Guys like these I really have no desire to ever see again unless it's a cameo, unless they can come up with a better design or purpose for them.
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06/11/2010 03:35 PM (UTC)
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I wanted new characters because I honestly hoped for a sequel to MKA. This game could be a sequel (we still don't know), but I highly doubt it.

So, new characters are extremely unnecessary. It's probably going to be a big heavy cast with heavy emphasis on the classics and the main classic events of MK1, MK2, and MK3.

If anything "new" should be brought to the table, I have to say I agree 100% with ProfesserAhnka, GIVE US and DEVELOP the ones that haven't been given a chance: Ashrah, Nitara, Mavado, Drahmin, Kenshi, etc etc etc.

Why bring new characters when we have some fresh new faces that haven't been used/exploited enough? They really deserve it.

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New characters for what? So they can appear in one game, be ripped apart by fans, and then thrown in the trash without given a chance for developement? Appearing in ONE game and one trilogy knock-off(Mavado,Nitara,Ashrah, ect) isn't enough for us to go "Oh wow, these characters suck! Let's throw them out!". When are we going to start giving these new characters a CHANCE?

We got new characters in MK4 and they were kicked out in order to make room for the MKDA ones, then the MKDA ones were tossed out in favor of the MKD ones ect. It's a neverending cycle.

Unless these new characters will be given a chance to be DEVELOPED then I don't want any.

I'm tired of people asking for new characters and then rip them apart when they DO get 'em.


I 100% agree with this.

If they can make it work without screwing up the storyline (by introducing in this game the new characters that were featured in MK4, MKDA, MKD, and MKA), I think that's the way to go.

This game looks like a remake/reboot (whatever you want to call it people), so, we really don't need new characters. No need for a new face when you have someone new and fresh like Ashra, Kenshi and Nitara waiting for development.

For the first time, ever, we will get a recreation of the first 3 games and we will see the story told from a cinematic point of view (cut-scenes, voice acting interactions, crucial moments, etc), so, I much rather see them do this well, focusing solely on the classics instead of bringing someone entirely new to the table and not giving him/her the star time he/she deserves.

Really, the cast looks like its going to be very big, I want to see all the attention centered on the classics that we know, because if that's the point of this game, then it better do it well. I don't want someone new who we don't need to get on the way.
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06/11/2010 04:19 PM (UTC)
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What's the point anymore? Even if they include new characters, it's meaningless to get attached to them. Any new character...regardless of quality, merit, or superiority...will invariably be treated as third-class pieces of shit by the collective fanbase. Therefore, the MK team, always eager to please, will inevitably drop them by the next game...never to be spoken of again.

Well, until the character is at least ten years old.

So you better LOVE the oldies because they will always be here
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06/11/2010 07:05 PM (UTC)
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Guys, when I say " New faces," I mean completly new characters not post MK3 characters except for the few that have already been established in the canon before MK3 IE Quan Chi.
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06/11/2010 07:26 PM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
Guys, when I say " New faces," I mean completly new characters not post MK3 characters except for the few that have already been established in the canon before MK3 IE Quan Chi.


Umm...I think that's what we're all debating about...

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06/11/2010 07:31 PM (UTC)
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I do want to see some new guys but the trouble is the new characters since MK4 have either been ok or meh.
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06/11/2010 07:33 PM (UTC)
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I'd like four new characters in this game. if we're looking at a roster of about 24, that's about perfect

oh and a couple of characters from MK4-MKA era like Bo Rai Cho and Kenshi would be pretty cool
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06/11/2010 07:38 PM (UTC)
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Just as an exercise in creativity, let me ask you guys this:

If you were coming up with the new characters, keeping in mind that this is almost certainly an MK 1 thru 3 remake...what would they be and how would they fit into that part of the MK timeline?
You don't have to get super-detailed if you don't want to, just a rough concept or outline is fine. I'm just interested to see how you guys would go about finding room for newbies to fit into a story that for the most part we've already been told, though they may change a few things here and there in the retelling.
And sure, "They were one of the nobodies who was invited to MK1 and didn't survive" works, but you can't give the same excuse to everybody. Not to mention like I said earlier, what good is a creating a new character only to kill them off right away, or come up with some lame excuse for how they secretly survived or came back? I'm pretty sure everyone in the fanbase has always agreed that dead characters not staying dead is lame.
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06/11/2010 07:54 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
I wanted new characters because I honestly hoped for a sequel to MKA. This game could be a sequel (we still don't know), but I highly doubt it.

So, new characters are extremely unnecessary. It's probably going to be a big heavy cast with heavy emphasis on the classics and the main classic events of MK1, MK2, and MK3.

If anything "new" should be brought to the table, I have to say I agree 100% with ProfesserAhnka, GIVE US and DEVELOP the ones that haven't been given a chance: Ashrah, Nitara, Mavado, Drahmin, Kenshi, etc etc etc.

Why bring new characters when we have some fresh new faces that haven't been used/exploited enough? They really deserve it.

ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
New characters for what? So they can appear in one game, be ripped apart by fans, and then thrown in the trash without given a chance for developement? Appearing in ONE game and one trilogy knock-off(Mavado,Nitara,Ashrah, ect) isn't enough for us to go "Oh wow, these characters suck! Let's throw them out!". When are we going to start giving these new characters a CHANCE?

We got new characters in MK4 and they were kicked out in order to make room for the MKDA ones, then the MKDA ones were tossed out in favor of the MKD ones ect. It's a neverending cycle.

Unless these new characters will be given a chance to be DEVELOPED then I don't want any.

I'm tired of people asking for new characters and then rip them apart when they DO get 'em.


I 100% agree with this.

If they can make it work without screwing up the storyline (by introducing in this game the new characters that were featured in MK4, MKDA, MKD, and MKA), I think that's the way to go.

This game looks like a remake/reboot (whatever you want to call it people), so, we really don't need new characters. No need for a new face when you have someone new and fresh like Ashra, Kenshi and Nitara waiting for development.

For the first time, ever, we will get a recreation of the first 3 games and we will see the story told from a cinematic point of view (cut-scenes, voice acting interactions, crucial moments, etc), so, I much rather see them do this well, focusing solely on the classics instead of bringing someone entirely new to the table and not giving him/her the star time he/she deserves.

Really, the cast looks like its going to be very big, I want to see all the attention centered on the classics that we know, because if that's the point of this game, then it better do it well. I don't want someone new who we don't need to get on the way.


Thank you! I think it's vital that we get one kick-ass classic MK game with a big roster of all our favorites and just enjoy. Then in the next game we can start bringing in new characters .
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06/11/2010 07:56 PM (UTC)
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JohnBoyAdvance Wrote:
I do want to see some new guys but the trouble is the new characters since MK4 have either been ok or meh.


Do you expect the new characters to be amazingly awesome right away? Do you expect them to be just as cool as the classics ASAP?

Sorry, but that will never happen unless they are given more than ONE game to be developed.
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06/11/2010 08:11 PM (UTC)
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Sure I'd like to see some new faces, as long as they seem well thought out and have a pleasing character design. Though the MK cast is currently quite bulky as is. Cut out some of the characters that not a lot of people like? Certainly a logical solution, but then I saw Kira in the background of Kahn's Arena and was reminded that MK never really gets rid of any of their characters.
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06/11/2010 08:25 PM (UTC)
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Well...it looks like a re-___ whatever you wanna call it, but we don't know anything for sure just yet. Looking at the characters in the trailer, and the arenas shown, there is the possibility that they showed us some of the characters that survived MKA. I mean...that's a stretch like crazy but...

Sub-Zero: Does it really matter? He'll be there in some capacity forever anyway. I would like to note though, that this SZ doesn't have a medallion on, or the frozen arms...or the cut over his eye. That could be a new guy. Maybe something happened to the last Subz, and that's why he's wearing his same mask...?? eh...?

Reptile: When hasn't he survived catastrophe?

Mileena: ^^Almost the same.

Kung Lao: He might have won that match with baraka and moved on. His whereabouts are almost always a mystery anyway.

Raiden: I have no clue, but he's a God character, so it's plausible he'd survive.

Shao Kahn: He should be dead but, who knows?

Johnny Cage: Been dead what....two times and came back.

Nightwolf: Last thing I remember about him, he was binding Onaga to the NetherRealm.... then MKA happened.

Just saying I have no idea what the hell is going on yet. And so I'll wait to see. Since it looks like a reboot or whatever, I'm not gonna hold my breathe. Just as well, since it looks like a reboot, I don't think it feels appropriate to add new faces in there. It feels more appropriate to straighten up.....well....all of these characters in some way shape or form.
Giving the less recognizable characters a chance to shine for a second.

idk...New characters just doesn't seem right at this point though.(lol) I wouldn't care who/what/when/or why they're there at this point. They'd just be forcing it imo.
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06/11/2010 08:30 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
If you were coming up with the new characters, keeping in mind that this is almost certainly an MK 1 thru 3 remake...what would they be and how would they fit into that part of the MK timeline?



Zombie Jerrod.
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06/11/2010 08:32 PM (UTC)
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OptimusGrime Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
If you were coming up with the new characters, keeping in mind that this is almost certainly an MK 1 thru 3 remake...what would they be and how would they fit into that part of the MK timeline?

Zombie Jerrod.


Heh. Touché, sir.
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06/11/2010 08:36 PM (UTC)
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This is just my opinion, but I don't think that because the MK team drops characters after one game, we should never see new characters again. In fact, I don't overly grant that premise.

Quan Chi was in MK:DA after MK4. He had a huge part in that game, in fact. Kenshi and Li Mei were in Deception after MK:DA. I know that's only a few characters, but excluding MK:A, which was basically just an Anthology game, you have three games in the post MK Trilogy era.

That's it. So it's not like none of these characters would ever get a chance again just because they missed one or even two titles.

Regardless of that though, it might be short sighted of me, but for each game, I think it's nice to have a few new faces with new stories and new moves. Are they successful with every character? Of course not, for every Kenshi, who most people like, there's a Hsu Hao, who a lot of people hated. But what fighting franchise has characters that are all universally loved?

Did everyone love Kunimitsu in Tekken? Are there a lot of Prototype Jack fans that were devestated that he hasn't been in every Tekken since 3? Taka Arashi from Virtua Fighter? Every series has its duds.

You might think that MK has more than most, but that's only because MK usually has about six new characters in each game while most other franchises introduce fewer. But even Tekken's approaching a fairly large plateau of characters.

Temp mentioned Havik as a character he'd be okay with returning. I freakin hated Havik. I liked Mavado, Nitara, Drahmin, Li Mei, Kira, Kobra, Sareena and Kenshi the most among new characters. Some of you might love that list and agree whole heartedly. Some of you might hate a few or even all of those characters.

So while I get that alot of people apparently want MK2 with modernized graphics, there's nothing wrong with a little variety as well. I'm really hoping that this isn't just a reboot of the series. Go forward, not backwards. But even if it is a reboot, I still want stuff that I've never seen before. Sure, reimaginings are great. The dead pool looks awesome, so does the Pit II and Shang Tsung's throne room looks phenomenal, but this HAS to be more than simply throwing a coat of gloss on MK1-MK3 and giving it MKvsDC's engine.

Why so many people want that and seemingly nothing else kind of baffles me. Not every new character has been great, but not every new character has stunk either. I thought that Kenshi was fun as hell to use in MK:DA. You never know, your favorite MK character could be in the next game and you've never used them before. Is it likely? No, I'm just saying it's possible if new characters exist.

Obviously, I'd like at least a few, if not more.
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06/11/2010 08:39 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
OptimusGrime Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
If you were coming up with the new characters, keeping in mind that this is almost certainly an MK 1 thru 3 remake...what would they be and how would they fit into that part of the MK timeline?

Zombie Jerrod.


Heh. Touché, sir.


That honestly wouldn't surprise me. Or if Quan Chi is a future DLC-er, I wouldn't be surprised if he "resurrected" Jataaka and Kia. Or they could also add another God LOL (Kidding)
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06/20/2010 03:49 PM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
OptimusGrime Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
If you were coming up with the new characters, keeping in mind that this is almost certainly an MK 1 thru 3 remake...what would they be and how would they fit into that part of the MK timeline?

Zombie Jerrod.


Heh. Touché, sir.


That honestly wouldn't surprise me. Or if Quan Chi is a future DLC-er, I wouldn't be surprised if he "resurrected" Jataaka and Kia. Or they could also add another God LOL (Kidding)


I keep hearing more and more about Jataaka and Kia lately. I honestly can't imagine a scenario where the MK team looks at Mythologies as a source for inspiration in new characters. Same goes for Tremor and Special Forces.

Besides, and this might just be my opinion, but if we're going to get ANY new characters in the next game, I'd much rather see brand new characters and not simply finding a way to shoe horn old side characters or character references in to the next game.

I suppose in the long run it doesn't overly matter how we get new characters, but just throwing some old, minor character in to the game and slapping a story on them because 5 hardcore fans might know who they are doesn't seem like the best way to craft a completely new idea.
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06/20/2010 07:42 PM (UTC)
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In my opinion , the only worth while additions to the Mortal Kombat universe, post Trilogy, was Quan Chi, Kenshi and Onaga. The other characters just seemed too " MK : Conquest ", or medieval, for my liking.

I would love to see some new characters that are actually worth while, especially in the story department.
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06/20/2010 07:44 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
New characters for what? So they can appear in one game, be ripped apart by fans, and then thrown in the trash without given a chance for developement? Appearing in ONE game and one trilogy knock-off(Mavado,Nitara,Ashrah, ect) isn't enough for us to go "Oh wow, these characters suck! Let's throw them out!". When are we going to start giving these new characters a CHANCE?

We got new characters in MK4 and they were kicked out in order to make room for the MKDA ones, then the MKDA ones were tossed out in favor of the MKD ones ect. It's a neverending cycle.

Unless these new characters will be given a chance to be DEVELOPED then I don't want any.

I'm tired of people asking for new characters and then rip them apart when they DO get 'em.


I wanted to create a thread based on this philosophy because I feel the exact same way, but I didn't know how to word it. But this is perfect.

MK made the mistake of constantly leaving out characters and having drafts when new titles come out. As a fighting game franchise, we should not be having this "which character is in" topics. It's a FIGHTER. Every character should have made it to the following game, and they should have chilled their balls with excessive amounts of new faces, because now we're left with 60+ characters and half of which are going to be tossed in the trash, just because of the game in which they debuted.

If in every new game they created 3-5 new characters with every character returning in the proceeding sequel, then we would be at a steady 25-37 characters by the time we got to Mortal Kombat Armageddon. Then everyoe would be happy, because it's kind of bullshit how they leave out some people's favorite characters or barely work o developing them. Treat your fans right MK.


This is how many new PLAYABLE characters we entered into the game b each title.

MK1: 7 new characters
MK2: 7 new characters
MK3: 8 new characters
UMK3: 5 new characters
MKT: 6 new characters
MK4: 8 new characters
MKDA: 10 new characters
MKD: 8 new characters
MKA: 5 new characters.


They need to start focusing on quality of characters, not quantity.
2 great new characters > 7 mediocre characters.
i wouln't mind them. But they should stick to no more than 4,kind of like sf4 did. this should only happen if a lot of thought is put in. A focus group might help seperate the kenshis from the hsu haos.
i think they should come up with a theme to go with each character. some of the new characters sufered because of a lack of this. how many basic teleports,groundpound,projectiled did we see.the lasting characters either rely on a theme,personality,an overall look and story.
example subz,ice theme,visible personaliy when in action,good look,complete story.
darrius failed in the grand scheme,why? no direction in his moves,they just gave him basic moves coated in blue energy,lack of personality,his appearence sucked,his story was just thrown in. oh and no copy and pasting from other characters.
if they followed this they could have some well received characters.
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06/20/2010 07:54 PM (UTC)
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Right now i'm going to say no to any new faces. Let this game set the ground work and bring back the lost fans. MK has a roster full of face's that was never used right. I would like to see them work on them first, and make them worth something.

I would not mind tho if they added ONE new face in the next game tho, and only one.

Just my 2 cents
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06/20/2010 07:55 PM (UTC)
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:

MKA: 5 new characters.


Wait, what? There are only 3 new characters in Armageddon, and even then, Sareena is only technically "new", since she was in Mythologies and the Gameboy version of Deadly Alliance.
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06/20/2010 07:56 PM (UTC)
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I think they need to develop some of the older characters that are highgly underdeveloped before debuting new characters.
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06/20/2010 07:58 PM (UTC)
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There are a lot of concepts in the background of the old MK games to work with, if people didn't want completely new characters. For example, who is Hornbuckle? What about the Skarlet rumor? Wouldn't it be cool if a shadow priest was playable? And ZEBRON?!
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