I'll ask again since selective reading is so common on this website.

Will somebody explain to me about how the disc content and DLC work? For example, how it's possible to have Skarlett chained up in the background, or Kintaro as an NPC in story mode yet neither of them are playable until downloaded?

The one thing that pisses me right off about this website it how patronising and sneering the posters can be.

Not everybody, myself included, is computer literate and of an informed opinion on how DLC works, and rather than have people sneer down their noses at me for posting an obviously uneducated opinion I'd much prefer if somebody got down from their damn high horse and just fucking told me a few things about the subject so I'd know about it in future. It takes all of 2 minutes to explain and it's not I'm asking for a fucking limb in the process.

*sigh*

From what I gathered about MvC3 is that Jill and Suma were on the disc, but you needed to download them to play as them. Again, I'm asking from an uninformed point of view, what's the difference in this case in regards to Kintaro, Skarlett or even the Retro skins/fatalities?

Wow, thanks for the heads up, Crow.
Shame if it's a joke, I was looking forward to Kenshi.

Kintaro is basically finished. He just need to be balanced, which can't take more time than him being created.

And the leak has shown concept art for the alternate costumes are in the krypt, not the actual retro-costumes, which are on the disc and NOT in the krypt.

Yeah, basically just what we'll need in order to play Kintaro, even though he is already in the game.

Here's how it goes:

If the character is on the disc that you buy then that means you're paying to see something that is already on the disc.

If the character is not on the disc then you're paying for something that the developers didn't have time to put into the game.

What do you mean he just needs to be balanced? He's in the game, you fight him, he just isn't playable because HE'S NOT MEANT TO BE!!! However, through a DLC, you unlock him as a playable character! What's so hard to understand about that?!

Not all alts are unlocked in the krypt though. Isn't

Gotcha.

But in regards to Kintaro who'll be appearing in Story Mode, and Skarlett who'll be appearing as a cameo in the Colliseum level, how does that work out? Are they still on the disk in this case or not?

as of now, i am going with shaun's tweet and agree with crow to take this "news" with caution.

It's not hard to understand, but they are pulling a Capcom with that on disc DLC bullshit.

Being balanced is a lot harder to do then adding voice to a character. It takes time

Tell them delusional kids the truth!!!!!

lol anyone thinks its weird a boss is dlc?

Not really.

Going to end this.

Capcom wanted Shuma Gorath on the initial game(he was the first character they asked marvel for) but marvel didn't think he would be popular enough and said he would only be allowed on as dlc,with another character to help him sell. Thus Jill. Shuma was finished,but Jill was a mess,unfinished because they couldn't get her done by shipping time,so they put the finishing touches on her between then and dlc time. So there was a reason beside money grubing for capcom.

MK only had a model for Skarlet(good luck playing a character with no moves),and nothing for kenshi. The real problem is Kintaro with some. MK 9 is aiming to be competitive. They may have Kintaro in the game but he is designed only as a boss,and would be broken. They need to tweak him to be a balanced character,and it is a well known fact it takes time to balance fighting game characters. Yes he is going to be easier than the other two to work on,but he is by no means done. If you want to play Kintaro do what some mvc3 people did and hack the incomplete character into the game,just don't expect him to be a finished character.

Kintaro appearing in Story Mode means he functions as a character and can be played as. A cameo character doesn't have the same mechanics as a playable character and usually doesn't have a model on par with playable characters. They just sit in the background doing whatever they were programmed to do.

Kintaro's info is very much on the disc. Skarlett's is very much not on the disc as she's just a low poly model shackled to the background. She's just an environment "asset" while Kintaro is more of an unlockable character.

I'm not sure about balancing him or whatever some are talking about here, but model, textures and character info is all on the disk already.

Would you rather NRS set the release date a month later than it is now to balance out Kintaro and put him in the game, or rather have the game on the current release date to later download a finished Kintaro?

Not really, but I don't think boss characters should even be playable tbh. I've hated that idea ever since it came into MK

I can agree with this, Kintaro would probably be broken as all hell.

to answer the question from the dude at the top of the page (if it needs to be clearer) like in the krypt how there is things you unlock through use of koins. but they are on the disc you just unlock them. this is basically the same idea but with a code instead. and i have a few questions of my own, Where are these people getting their info from. Like how kintaro is a boss in the game and that skarlett already has moves and stuff that are on the disc. How are you sure about this i don't remember any leaks about kintaro. and all i've seen of lady in red is cameo in back round. didn't see her fight or anything so how do you know. the same goes for retro dlc outfits how do you know they're unlockable through the krypt do you just think that because it sounds fair or something. when did they state this.

I hope this is a joke. They cut Rain out for Quan Chi/you know who and now this? I'm mad.

I'm not even sure what your argument is. It sounds like you're trying exceptionally hard to justify having to (potentially) pay to play as a character that is already in the game. If anything, Kintaro is worse because he's in plain sight and they would make us pay for him anyway.

Having to modify damage parameters is probably one of the dumbest excuses you could have come up with for why Kintaro is DLC. The demo build is at least two months, and you're really going to sit here and try to spout that Kintaro may be such an unbalanced mess of a character they can't change his damage output in two or three months? If that were true, I fear for how the rest of the game plays since they can't tweak a boss character in a timely manner. Hell, Capcom did it for Seth before Street Fighter 4's release, and they love fucking consumers up the ass.

If Kintaro wasn't in the build, then I think everyone here would have less of a problem with this. Ignorance is bliss, and if NRS yanked every mention of him before sending out the demo, none of us would be any the wiser and he would seem like a new character who just didn't make the cut. After all, look at the reaction Lady in Red and Kenshi are getting. Reaction is infinitely more positive for those two than Kintaro.

Fortunately for us (or at least those of us who don't like getting fucked over) we have jolly good hacker buddies who rummage through this shit for us to know exactly what we're getting in regards to content. Under United States law, once I pay for the disc I am free to do whatever I want with it as long as it's for personal use and does not infringe copyright. If Kintaro is on the disc in all his striped glory, I can tell NRS to go fuck themselves and hack that mofo for play without paying a fucking dime because I already paid for possession of the disc and its contents. If you're wondering what the legal precedent for that is you can see it here.

Now, I've given NRS the benefit for the doubt for most of this game, and I'll give it to them for Kintaro too. I'm going to assume Kintaro is going to be a neat little free bonus that makes everyone giddy and their business/consumer relationship isn't hurt. But, quite frankly, there is no industry precedent for that and it's far more common for publishers to fuck us all over when it comes to downloadable content. The ultimate "fuck you" from Netherrealm would be to remove all mention of Kintaro from the retail disc even though he was in the demo, allowing them to nickel and dime as they please. Let's hope that is not the case.

Uh-oh, that can't be good.
Might I inquire what the mad part is directed at?

Probably a joke. I remember when i use to subscribe to gamepro as a kid they would have April fools articles.

If it is then I'm cool with that. Kenshi and Quan are way more interesting than Rain, we know nothing of Red lady so there can be no judgment on that matter, and Kintaro was my favorite boss.