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RazorsEdge701
10/31/2010 08:59 AM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:

Shadaloo Wrote:
I want to give Dan Forden lots of money, and just have him put out an atmospheric album. That audio was beautiful. Screamed 'Ninja' to me.

GOD, how I hope there are themes like this for any/ all of the characters we'll be seeing before launch.


What makes you think Dan Forden did that?

Maybe the fact that Dan Forden is the game's music guy? I mean, he could have other dudes under him, but this music does sound exactly like his composing style.
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10/31/2010 09:07 AM (UTC)
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Loved it. I got a feeling that the cutscene it shows will probably be from Scorpion's point of view towards Sub-Zero...the birth of Noob Saibot...(NOTE: Not trying to start another Sub-Zero/Noob thread)
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10/31/2010 09:10 AM (UTC)
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Dan Forden hasn't been alone since Deception. And maybe Deadly Alliance, but definitely Deception.

lol
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10/31/2010 09:57 AM (UTC)
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Sweet trailer, but no more Scorpion. There should be one trailer per chracter, and I did the math and they have plenty of time to do one character trailer a week so they should get off their asses and make that happen.
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10/31/2010 10:25 AM (UTC)
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Awesome Trailer I Can't Wait For This Game!!!!
Anybody else jizz when they saw the combos and graphics??? i hope it wasn't just me ;)
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Milaana
10/31/2010 11:34 AM (UTC)
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Cool about the backflip, I hope its not just part of the combo tho...

But scorpion.. we've seen scorpion by now... give Mileena some attention please.

And also why they keep on improving only extremely for scorpion... scorpion has its fans.. i'd be much happier when they give Stryker and Sheeva and Rain some extra time and attention... because every MK1,2 and 3 character needs to become like scorpion.
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10/31/2010 12:16 PM (UTC)
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Ok very nice Mr Boon. Now no more Scorpion stuff please.

I do miss those days when Scorpion was the guy who you liked, sitting in the corner of the character select screen possibly reading a book while the "faces of MK" would be the ones getting all of this air time.

You would be thinking "I cant fucking wait to play as Scorpion".

But now we have no balance it has been Scorpion all of the time really so far in the build up.

I wouldn't mind if we had gotten a Sub Zero trailer in the same vein as the Scorpion story trailer between the two Scorpion trailers.

Still looking bloody good though.
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Bloodfang
10/31/2010 12:43 PM (UTC)
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Milaana Wrote:
Cool about the backflip, I hope its not just part of the combo tho...

But scorpion.. we've seen scorpion by now... give Mileena some attention please.

And also why they keep on improving only extremely for scorpion... scorpion has its fans.. i'd be much happier when they give Stryker and Sheeva and Rain some extra time and attention... because every MK1,2 and 3 character needs to become like scorpion.


The backflip definitely looked to me like a combo ender not a special. Like Cage's flipkick combo ender they've shown a few times. I really wish they would ditch the damn sword and just have him use his ropedart (spear/harpoon/whatever people call it instead of what it is, lol) as a short distance/melee weapon like a real master of the weapon would. He should use it like a blade-tipped whip to extend the reach of his attacks instead of ONLY using it to pull things to him. One of my biggest pet peeves.

Actually, Scorpion NEEDS improvement over MKvsDC where he was the most nerfed of the characters. His combos were awful and too difficult to actually get on even an unskilled opponent. He's my favorite but I played as almost everyone else in that because of just HOW much better they all were. Especially Sub-Zero. I am in love with that Ice Parry move and the ability to use parry moves mid-combo and they act like normal specials. I will be pretty disappointed if the Parry moves no longer work that way. Especially since Cage's X-ray is a parry. I'm happy Scorpion's teleport punch no longer looks like it will completely whiff half the time like it did in MKvsDC. I don't like his X-ray or Fatalities though. They didn't put ANY attention on him for that. Virtually EVERY character has a more creative X-ray move by far and well most of them kinda have the same boring slice/decapitate fatalities.

As to him being the only character improved... Yeah he's looks sweet so far (other than my above complaints) but this is the first MK game where he's actually not the character I am most excited to get my hands on. He will still be the first character I master but the other characters just look sooooo much more improved (Cyrax, Sektor, Kitana, Mileena, Johnny Cage, Jax so far...). Scorpion looks good but with the exception of MKvsDC he's always awesome so he looks like more of the same just with WAY WAY too much boring swordplay and not enough badass spectre from hell; the other characters however look AMAZINGLY improved and better than they have ever looked. Not to mention they have way more epic and personalized (Not Thug-tastic) X-rays. So yeah with how epic EVERYONE else is looking I've actually wanted some better quality gameplay footage of Scorpion that will prove to me that he's received the same level of epic improvement that everyone else has. So far not convinced.

Pros: Spear is on a chain which is way cooler looking at least, lol. Teleport punch looks fast, good reach, difficult to dodge. Hellfire looks sweet. He FINALLY has his Airthrow back. Most useful air-control move. He and Jax owned the air in MK2. Lots of fire in his combos and enders. Very Promising so far.

Cons: Hate the overuse of the sword and no personality present in his X-ray and Fatalities... very uncreative looking for a character with SOOOO much to work with... I mean jesus he's a hellspawn assassin!!!! I would rather other specials he's lost over the Leg Sweep Takedown... but this video shows that it may be a helluva lot more effective then it was in MK2 (maybe even hitting people in the air if they are low enough) which is a plus. So I won't hate on it too much but I will need to play it to get a feel for it. So far I don't think he has an Enhanced Spear move.... he better freakin' have one. The other characters look like they have enhanced specials for all of their moves he better not be the exception.

SO in closing I really don't agree with the statement that he is the ONLY character that has been extremely improved all I see so far is a de-nerfing return to former glory while every other character has finally been put on his level of awesome badassery. So excited for Cage, Cyrax, Sektor, Kitana.. and everyone else. Still holding out hope that Scorpion will end up being just as badass as they all obviously are now. He has a lot of catching up to do though from his MKvsDC incarnation which haunts me with dread of him being too similar to that again. ::shuddders:: so so bad...
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10/31/2010 01:03 PM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
Here's hoping that we get bio/combo videos of all the revealed characters.


Why would they put some actual work and effort into them when they can just keep releasing a Scorpion video?
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Linkdarkside
10/31/2010 01:04 PM (UTC)
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i love how Scorpion looks so far ,his specials are great,love the chain and my most favorite feature are his double sword attack it looked very ninja like.

i hope that his enchanted spear attack use one of his swords instead of a kunai.
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10/31/2010 01:27 PM (UTC)
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It was an interesting trailer, but I've definitely grown tired of Scorpion. For this game, I don't expect anything really new in regards to his character. It looks to be the same old Scorpion that's only concerned with revenge. It would be nice if he went about that revenge in an intelligent, calculating manner, but that's probably not going to be the case at all. So much for him being a ninja.

Speaking of which, his moves are cool looking, but it would be very nice to see him use actual ninja techniques such as the shito ken/boshi ken (thumb fist) for his jab as well as a two-hit stomp kick that acts like a giant walking step. Then again, I guess those are too much to ask for.
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10/31/2010 01:47 PM (UTC)
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Human-Smoke-4-ever Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
Here's hoping that we get bio/combo videos of all the revealed characters.


Why would they put some actual work and effort into them when they can just keep releasing a Scorpion video?


lol, exactly!
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10/31/2010 01:49 PM (UTC)
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This trailer clears up alot for me. Scorpion is kicking ass in every way I could imagine in this trailer. I mean, it looks like they pulled out all the stops with this character.

They got him using one sword, then both swords, hell fire, the flip kick, fire on the upper-cut, the spear, aerial throws, ninja sweeps, disappearing, teleporting, and on and on and on... whew!

Folks....Scorpion is now worthy of the badass title for good reasons other than the fact that he's an undead ninja, FINALLY.

He looks like an unstoppable force, just like I believe he should be. This trailer thoroughly impressed me. I applaud them, and so I want more!

If this trailer is any indication of what they've done with the rest of the characters, I'm more than amped about this game. Can't wait to see what they've done with my favorite character, Raiden.

WeaponTheory Wrote:
Dan Forden hasn't been alone since Deception. And maybe Deadly Alliance, but definitely Deception.

lol


Same principal as giving Boon & Tobias credit for "creating the game". You give the head, or the most note worthy person(s) of the department credit with the expectation that the other guys realize we're talking about them too.

That said, Forden is the face of the music department. And so... "he" knocked it out of the park in this little trailer.

This trailer is probably the most complete gameplay trailer I've ever seen from MK. Everything works well together.

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There does seem to be some soft spots in animation in the trailer (like the end of one of Scoprion's combos where he slides in to scissor sweep an opponent), but just looking at all the other stuff that's right in the video, I'm feeling alot more confident that they can catch this stuff before release. That was insane.

Bloodfang Wrote:


Good points on the spear. A more extravagant move with it does seem to be missing. Something more like how they used it in MK: Shaolin Monks would be a nice addition to him in this game if they can work it in right. Maybe something like a quick whip//slashing clos-er ranged move is all I could see them giving him instead of only having it pull things to him. Watching the trailer again, it seems to me that if he had something like that, it would tip his already full glass, over the top.

iMo, Scorpion is complete otherwise. He's not my favorite character, but I'm impressed with what I see from him right now.
Right i thought someone would of figured out by now

there will be 2 more releases focused on Scorpion, how do i know,
go to MK's Facebook page, click Mortal Kombat in the tab, and you see theirs still 2 more spaces of Scorpion

remember, it was the thing they released when the Countdown first finished, yeah that 1

theirs still 2 spaces left (well visually 3, but they will put that recent video in there) , dont believe me, check ya self, its a simple logic
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10/31/2010 02:32 PM (UTC)
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How. Very. Boring.

We have: Johnny Cage, Mileena, Sektor, Cyrax, Jax, Nightwolf, Raiden, Shao Kahn, Kung Lao, Reptile, and Kitana (11 fucking revealed EXTRA characters).....yet we still keep getting the annoying boring ninjas shoved down our throats (I dread that they'll restart this crap with Sub-Zero as well).

The video is cool but I'm with the majority: Give the other characters some fucking time in the spot-light. Those 2 ninjas are making us yawn in annoyance and roll our eyes in frustration (no matter how cool they are).
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10/31/2010 02:33 PM (UTC)
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Sorry, I do not know how to quote more than one person's post so:
ThePredator151 wrote: Good points on the spear. A more extravagant move with it does seem to be missing. Something more like how they used it in MK: Shaolin Monks would be a nice addition to him in this game if they can work it in right. Maybe something like a quick whip//slashing clos-er ranged move is all I could see them giving him instead of only having it pull things to him. Watching the trailer again, it seems to me that if he had something like that, it would tip his already full glass, over the top.
iMo, Scorpion is complete otherwise. He's not my favorite character, but I'm impressed with what I see from him right now.


Reply from me: Actually the MK:SM usage of the spear is exactly what I want instead of the sword moves. Because that is how the weapon is supposed to be used besides just spearing and pulling, lol. I don't know why they would do that in one game and then completely ignore it in every other future game.

LinkDarkSide wrote: i love how Scorpion looks so far ,his specials are great,love the chain and my most favorite feature are his double sword attack it looked very ninja like.
i hope that his enchanted spear attack use one of his swords instead of a kunai.

Reply from me: People who are huge sword-ophiles can hate me all day for this but him having the sword(s) has bothered me ever since MK4. He doesn't need a sword, he already has a really really useful weapon. He can use a sword for SOME attacks fine, but he uses it for damn near everything now. My big issue with the swords is that, while yes very cool and effective, ANY "Ninja" or hell ANY character can do that kind of stuff with a sword. "Scorpion" derives his persona and codename from the rope-dart "stinger" he uses to paralyze his prey, making them suffer before he mercilessly beats them to a bloody pulp. That is his entire personality. A sword is too ordinary and routine. The "scorpion tail" rope-dart is literally WHO he is. He's Scorpion not Swordsman. So I would very much prefer he use his SPEAR for any enhanced SPEAR attack and not the "any generic ninja character" sword they have him using instead of his trademark "specialization" weapon that makes him stand out from EVERY OTHER Ninja in EVERY OTHER game period that uses a sword for a weapon. And don't even get me started on the lack of "hellspawn assassin" motif missing from his X-ray and fatalities, lol.
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queve
10/31/2010 03:07 PM (UTC)
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I agree that I'd love to see more flashy and original moves regarding the spear.

My memory kind of recalls that something like this was done in MKSM?
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DigitalAssassin
10/31/2010 03:13 PM (UTC)
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I LOVE the gameplay! it's getting better and better. BUT the music is horrible, anyone agree??

I want something like this damnit!

Mortal Kombat 2 Music-The Armory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXAbXsWt3hE

or this

Mortal Kombat 2 Music-The Tower
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFe4TXDr6Fg&feature;=related

Hell, I hope they just use these without remixing them. I don't have many issues with the gameplay, but the music needs improvement. It's like a movie, the music is just as important as the visuals!
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10/31/2010 03:53 PM (UTC)
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T-rex Wrote:
No,he spelled it the British way.


Except I'm not British, therefore I feel like being an ass about it :|

But that's beside the point. Aren't we supposed to get some exclusive character stuff from the website in a few days?
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10/31/2010 04:59 PM (UTC)
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Nice video, I really wanna see a proper full match soon.
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10/31/2010 05:01 PM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:
Dan Forden hasn't been alone since Deception. And maybe Deadly Alliance, but definitely Deception.

lol


Even so, as Razor said, this does seem like his style, and while he hasn't been alone, he's more often than not acted in an overseeing capacity on the tracks he isn't directly responsible for.

And yes, I am with the rest. Enough damn Scorpion. I really hope November is Reptile month. Hell, I'd take anyone.
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10/31/2010 06:05 PM (UTC)
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SCORPION SCORPION SCORPION.....................UGH...............SICK OF IT!! Can we get SOMETHING new other than friggin Scorpion and Sub Zero? I'm excited about this game and getting seriously bored with these two!

Scorpion game play, video, bio, etc..........can they not give any information on ANY other character? How about the Bio of the Stages?? More of that! That was great!!
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10/31/2010 06:06 PM (UTC)
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JADEdSCORPION Wrote:
Yay! Whoever was moaning about the backflip kick thing, it's back! :-p


I'm actually glad his scissor sweep is back. Looks like it'll be more useful this time being able to combo into it.
[edit]: ****! I just realized he also has his triple kick combo from UMK3. That's awesome!
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10/31/2010 06:10 PM (UTC)
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as i am a Music Producer/Sound engineer myself. I have watched this Trailer in high quality with High Quality Studio Speakers and Acoustic Threathment right in my own Studio. Man!!! we should not talk shit about the sound. MK has one of the best sounding effects. About the music: Yes true its not the old music. But seriously people. A Human want those because its something we remember and know. That way it makes us think like: if we have that oldschool than the music section is save. But its not. We had that in deception aswell. Remember Deadpool? Nothing got saved. AS I HATED DC's MUSIC SO MUCH because it had nothing to do with MK. It still gave u that adrenaline feeling when u was fighting. So from that part it is improved because it gives u a message about the fighting and not the background itself. BUT THIS TIME PEOPLE i personaly think that they have mixed it together. I think this is the perfect music for a fighting game like MK.. This music tells something about the fighting itself without losing the feel of the MKstuff. PERFECTLY DONE!!
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