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posted05/22/2008 10:20 PM (UTC)by
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acidslayer
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08/05/2007 05:54 PM (UTC)
with all the commotion about mk vs dc i think it personally will suck robins balls. i hate when decent creators fuck with dumb franchises because they want to change gameplay. mk sucks now.
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Sub_ZER0
04/19/2008 10:41 PM (UTC)
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Then leave....if you think it sucks, why are you still posting.
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04/19/2008 10:44 PM (UTC)
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Good ridance. If you aren't gonna stick through thick and thin, then we don't want you.
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MK-4-LIFE
04/20/2008 01:59 AM (UTC)
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It's good to be finding out who the true fans are. Naturally, I am going to side with Sub-ZER0 and Sm0k3. If you don't like MK anymore, why are you posting? If MK is dead to you now, obviously I am going to question your supposed "MK fanaticism".

I might also point out that this is the wrong forum to post this in.
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04/20/2008 03:07 AM (UTC)
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Acidslayer is totally right. Mk sucks now.
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Sub_ZER0
04/20/2008 03:18 AM (UTC)
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V1LLA1N Wrote:
Acidslayer is totally right. Mk sucks now.


Then why are you still here?
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MK-4-LIFE
04/20/2008 03:20 AM (UTC)
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Sub_ZER0 Wrote:
V1LLA1N Wrote:
Acidslayer is totally right. Mk sucks now.


Then why are you still here?


Agreed. I don't see how these people can call themselves "MK Fans" if they ditch the franchise just because of one game. It's quite annoying. Real fans will stick with the series no matter what.
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TheScrew
04/20/2008 03:24 AM (UTC)
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MK isnt dead yet. If its dead to you, then leave. MK will never die for me, and many other fans on this site. Im with these guys in stickin through MK and supportin it no matter what. If MK is dead to you, why do you come on these forums and bitch. Move on with your life, its just a video game, after all.
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reppy
04/20/2008 11:28 PM (UTC)
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You know, you don't have to like everything that has the MK logo slapped on it. It's okay. I played all the way through Special Forces before taking it back and demanding a full refund. Doesn't make me any less of a fan. Doesn't mean I don't support quality MK games. Just ease up, people.
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04/21/2008 12:10 AM (UTC)
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Just because you hate Robin doesn't mean the game will suck balls. I mean, Liu Kang is basically the Robin equivalent. If you lived through THAT then you shouldn't really judge a game by its cover.
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04/21/2008 12:58 AM (UTC)
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reppy Wrote:
You know, you don't have to like everything that has the MK logo slapped on it. It's okay. I played all the way through Special Forces before taking it back and demanding a full refund. Doesn't make me any less of a fan. Doesn't mean I don't support quality MK games. Just ease up, people.


We're not saying that not buying or supporting this game will make you any less of a fan. We're saying that ditching the series/franchise and saying shit like "MK is dead to me now" is being a slack fag, and obviously you can't be a true fan if you don't stick with the series through the bad times, as well as good.
A true MK fan would stick to MK through thick and thin.

-omega-
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04/21/2008 08:06 AM (UTC)
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scorpion_of_the_shirai-ryu Wrote:
A true MK fan would stick to MK through thick and thin.

-omega-


Damned right! It shits me to tears that someone can ditch the franchise just because of one crappy game! You call yourselves fans? You disgust me.
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04/21/2008 11:42 PM (UTC)
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Just because you don't like one game you can't say Mortal Kombat sucks now. Give it some time and wait for a new game after it, if you don't like the MK vs. DC.
And it's certainly NOT dead. If your gonna go and say Mortal Kombat sucks because your upset about one game, your not a fan of MK.

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04/22/2008 07:29 AM (UTC)
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scorpion_of_the_shirai-ryu Wrote:
A true MK fan would stick to MK through thick and thin.

-omega-


A very stupid observation.
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04/22/2008 09:07 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
scorpion_of_the_shirai-ryu Wrote:
A true MK fan would stick to MK through thick and thin.

-omega-


A very stupid observation.


How is that stupid? It's true! How are you a fan if you ditch the series after one shitty game? That's dumb.
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04/22/2008 11:07 AM (UTC)
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Sub_ZER0 Wrote:
Then leave....if you think it sucks, why are you still posting.


Sm0k3 Wrote:
Good ridance. If you aren't gonna stick through thick and thin, then we don't want you.


MK-4-LIFE Wrote:
reppy Wrote:
You know, you don't have to like everything that has the MK logo slapped on it. It's okay. I played all the way through Special Forces before taking it back and demanding a full refund. Doesn't make me any less of a fan. Doesn't mean I don't support quality MK games. Just ease up, people.


We're not saying that not buying or supporting this game will make you any less of a fan. We're saying that ditching the series/franchise and saying shit like "MK is dead to me now" is being a slack fag, and obviously you can't be a true fan if you don't stick with the series through the bad times, as well as good.


That is the stupidest....*sigh* lol

Listen to what you will find out sometime in your life anyway.

The relationship between you, and ANY company, or ANY manufacturer, NEVER constitutes "loyalty". Because your only real connection to them, is a "$".

Beyond a condition that you actually buy their products, YOU ARE NOT "loyal" to them in ANY way, shape or form. NOTHING constitutes any of your attitudes, to say to ANYONE "you have to keep buying their product or else". Nothing, Nobody who claims "loyalty" to a franchise "through thick and thin", are logically thinking human beings.

YES, all of you are being ridiculous...at the same time.It's ammaazzing.

Get THIS completely straight: YOU ARE A CONSUMER -- A client -- A Customer of Mortal Kombat paraphernalia, and it's products.

YOU ARE NOT this franchises "life mate" (girlfriend//boy friend, whatever).

Loyalty, does not constitute a customer continue giving the manufacturers money, or even attention....IF they feel the product is BAAAD.

EX1: Say you buy cars from a dealership for 15+ years. Then, that car dealership starts selling you pieces of crap cars because HIS boss, demands larger sales and profits per year...

HOW much more money would you continue to throw away...for lemon vehicles?

Basically now, how STUPID a consumer would you be, if you sat and said to yourself: "I'm Loyal to this car dealership, so I'm going to keep pouring my money into it. Even if I continue to get bs vehicles from them. Through the good times and through the bad, I'm a loyal customer to this dealership, so they deserve my money and attention no matter what kind of product they give me"?


Get it?

THAT's WHY IT'S STUPID.

LmaO

Quit bothering people just because they don't like the idea of this game...

I am totally against what they've decided to do with this latest installment. So what do you have to say to me? You gonna call me dis-loyal or something retarded like that, just cuz I don't want to play through//pay for this product?

I'm a sub-mod on the biggest MK site on the web...If anything, that qualifies me for one of the biggest dedicated MK Fans//Geeks in the entire world.

That applies to all of you, and anyone else here too, since we're all logging on to this website frequently.

Don't be so naive, or ridiculous.....sheesh.
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04/22/2008 03:35 PM (UTC)
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Like Matt Hardy. Mortal kombat will never die.
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04/22/2008 06:07 PM (UTC)
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You're obviously confusing the point of our argument sir. We are not stating that those who do not buy Mortal Kombat vs. DC are less of fans, we are stating that those who wish to leave the Mortal Kombat Fanbase after this one game, are not true Mortal Kombat fans. This argument I stick to, and there's nothing you can say to prove to me otherwise. A "true" fan of Mortal Kombat especially "a sub-mod on the biggest MK site on the web", even though they may believe that this current state of MK is ludicrous, will not, at the least, insult MK, or call it "dead". Do you disagree?
chrome,how is that,in any way,a stupid observation,huh?
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04/22/2008 08:20 PM (UTC)
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Predator has it right. Boon, the MK team, Midway and DC don't give a flying fuck if none of their fans likes there product - the only thing that concerns them is if they get money through appealing to more people than just their own fan bases. I am guessing alot of the indie fags will come out to play with this game (just a hunch).

Personally i dislike the way mkvsdc was announced and the hype prior to it - what we were expecting was something complelety off the chain and pure MK carnage. What we got is MK vs DC - which has now grown on me after the shock of the announcement.

You can't be a true fan just because you decide to stay and play a a game and even if the company is a sell out you stick with them through thick and thin. Theres only two words that can describe those sort of people and they are "Fan Boys". People who have pride in brown nosing a company for some unexplained reason. In my opinion they are more irritating that these fags that go around posing hundreads of threads saying "MK is dead".

A real / dedicated fan is somewhat harder to explain - but i am guessing it has something to do along the lines with (in terms of mortal kombat). Collecting mass Mortal Kombat stuff, spending lots of time on the MKO forums, playing the games in the series (THAT YOU PERSONALLY LIKE) as much as possible, reading lots of material on it (i read wiki stuff alot because i love it, and MK comics all the time), creating fan art and fiction etc.

A real fan doesn't just suck it in when a poor game is released and make them selves think that they love this game. Its opinionised - i personally think MK died starting with MK4. Got a little better in MKD(though people tend to disagree) and i MKA crashed the series. Just because i don't like them games does it mean im not a true fan? considering i have been playing the game since 92, have spent well over hundreads of "£" on merchandise and games. Heck i even bought an xbox purely for MKDA,D,and A to try them out - now thats what fans are about.

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04/22/2008 09:43 PM (UTC)
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So you're basically saying that you can be a supposed fan of MK and still call it dead, just because of one game?
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04/22/2008 10:13 PM (UTC)
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You're obviously confusing the point of our argument sir. We are not stating that those who do not buy Mortal Kombat vs. DC are less of fans, we are stating that those who wish to leave the Mortal Kombat Fanbase after this one game, are not true Mortal Kombat fans. This argument I stick to, and there's nothing you can say to prove to me otherwise. A "true" fan of Mortal Kombat especially "a sub-mod on the biggest MK site on the web", even though they may believe that this current state of MK is ludicrous, will not, at the least, insult MK, or call it "dead". Do you disagree?


I don't have one single solitary crumb of what you guys are saying confused. I got it, I got it loud and clear.

I also said: "......deserve my money or even my attention."

So, even your point about people who leave the fan base is invalid, completely judgmental, and overall naive. It's WRONG, more than anything else. You will learn though....

The first time a store, or "provider of services" to you, screws you over for your hard earned money..... you will inevitably identify with the impulse to LEAVE the establishment, or persons alone. Regardless of if you're a fan of their products or not. It's ethics, economics, supply and demand essentially.

It doesn't feel good to be made excited about something, be let down once you see what it is, then be convinced against that let down that it is a good idea to buy, be effectively "sold" something against your better judgment, and then, in the end, receive a less than adequate product. i.e. Get jerked around and sold something you know you didn't want in the beginning of that consumer venture. People around MK feel like that, especially right now, and considering MKDA - MKA.

So now, you're now just making excuses so you can categorize people as a "True Fan" or not....Which re-iterates my claim for this ridiculous behavior from you all.

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The other gaping hole in your proclamation, is that everyone you're talking to like that on these forums, have been around for more that just "one game". Even the younger memebers have been around long enough to have witnessed at least 2 games released. And yea, there are some very seldom 9 and 10 yr olds around here too, As well as people who are in their late 30's and 40's. Making them 15-30yrs old when the first game was introduced.

Point is, people don't find MK sites looking for "a new pair of shoes" or something weird like that, and then once they're here, magically discover that they wanna log in on MKO. They // We have a pre-existing interest in MK.

So it's pretty messed up for you to talk to people like that, when they're just like you. They're just paying attention to a different aspect of the franchise than you at this point in time.

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One last thing..

Come to terms with the FACT that this is not the first time Midway has pulled this kind of marketing scheme with us fans. In fact, it has happened enough times throughout the past games' releases, that it has become predictable for anyone intuitive enough to identify with what they're doing.

Basic human behavior will tell you that if you're getting hit the same way over and over...that you better block another attempt for a similar blow, or you're gonna get hit again.

In this case, that means Midway keeps doing the same things over and over to sell the games, and "hitting us" in the pocket$ for a less than adequate product. Which heavily is based on the individuals perception of the product at the time(which game made them feel the way they feel right now..ect). People don't like being "hit" in any sense usually, and since this is the same company doing the same thing over again...it's reasonable to consider that Midway has become a little predictable in their marketing efforts, and the end resulting product quality...This is the way it is perceived for-a good chunk of-bonified MK FANS around here. Loong before you, or I even got here.

So, while we obviously can't see into future for what the end result this game will yield(satisfactory or dis-satisfactory). A good look back at MK as a franchise, will tell you that they did the same type of thing with MKda-A, and are attempting to "Shock" us again, convince us this is a good idea, Again....and sell us another sub-par product....AGAIN. To those whom it may concern.

It's why I can't stand "hype" most of the times...cuz it makes people act stupid, and make "Stupid Observations".

As Chrome conveniently pointed out for you.

PS: You will also learn dealing with me in particular, that I don't care if you wanna be a smarter consumer or not. It's not my money you're spending, so I genuinely, don't even care. Nor do I care if anyone thinks i should stick around here or not, just because I'll be renting this game loong before I even consider buying it...Cuz it's not what I want...but I'll try it cuz it's still MK.

So you can gauge for yourself how much I'm concerned with "proving you wrong" about anything. Go out there and get burned a few times....like I did, and you'll come around all by yourself. lol You'll educate yourself about what exactly it is you're buying into on a regular basis. Not just MK stuff.

If people wanna leave, let them leave without giving them a bunch of FAN BOY grief for it....it's likely they can see, or have experienced something you haven't.

YET.

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Right

Sm0k3 Wrote:
So you're basically saying that you can be a supposed fan of MK and still call it dead, just because of one game?


Wrong. You can be a fan in anyway you like (Stop judging people for that)...and as I stated above, you're gonna be hard pressed to find a "fan" around here, who's only been around for one game.

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04/22/2008 10:25 PM (UTC)
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Well...this is all just business. MK is not dead yet.....they are going to be booming from the sells of MK vs DC. As for the storyline, that's impossible to say as of right now. MK9 is where we will see if Boon and Co. do what the fans want...or do what will make an extra profit.

As for if you are a "True Fan" or not.....that's hard to say. I just can't stand constant bitching of people saying "Oh...MK is dead to me now, I'm so leaving and forgetting all about this game."

If you are going to leave, then why tell everyone? Just leave! I think most of these people will be back at MK9...unless it sucks ass.

I don't think there is a such thing as a "True Fan", just committed fans.

You can look at this from two different perspectives....

Say MK is like a Sports Team; say the Knicks. The Knicks were Booming in the 90's, but now are complete trash. They still have a dedicated fans who come to everygame. The same can be said about MK, almost the exact same.

You can also look at MK as a product, which it is. The supplier is putting out bad merchendise, so why would you still buy it?

I see MK from both standpoints...I am a dedicated fan....that's why I post on this forum....but as a consumer, I will wait until I have an actual review of this item. If it is bad...I will not buy it.

So, my general review is that: If you really like MK...wait until there is an actual review on this game. See what people think after playing it. If it is horrible...they why would you buy it?

Even if this game is horrible, you can still like MK.



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04/22/2008 10:34 PM (UTC)
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Wrong. You can be a fan in anyway you like (Stop judging people for that)...and as I stated above, you're gonna be hard pressed to find a "fan" around here, who's only been around for one game.



You make some valid points. How about this, I'll agree to stop judging the validity of people's "fandom", once they stop clogging our forums by using vulgar language to insult a game, of which fanbase they are apart of. You're right on one thing though, despite my own personal views, I am not one to judge who is a "true" fan.

As far as the whole "been around for one game" thing, if a fan had been around for more that one game, and liked it enough to be an active participent in it's fanbase, than I doubt they would give up on the franchise entirely, because of MK vs DC.
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