*Yahoo Searches*

A Succubus? Like this? or This?

Isn't that essentially Nitara? Gimme some specs like, what are the powers and abilities...maybe a little background on that type of character..



Yes. Right on! I like how mischievous, yet enticing she looks in that image...



No, that's actually something new in this thread. You know, i like your idea except for maybe one of the major points...

I don't like that mating is such a prominent part of her survival. I think it's almost demeaning of a female character in a fighting game filled with males.

Well...maybe it's just the way I read it. Sex could be used in Mk as long as it's not so.....right out front for her. Maybe as a tool to control the males on the roster I guess. But then you'd have to have that one guy character who could resist her temptation(which is a good element to have for story and special powers purposes btw). I think that might scale the lines of asking for another "hero" type, Liu Kang-like character though...and I'm not sure I want to see that kind of guy emerge on the roster for a little while.

I like this concept however...cuz it's making me think.

Maybe apply this concept of sexuality to a male...then at least he's not looked at like the "town slut"...I hate it when they do that to women because it's getting predictable...(to me anyway)

Um...Yea, turn this into a guy, and have him be the biggest playboy, chauvinistic jerk on the planet. Tie in some unconventional humor too. Kind of like Jonny Cage, but to a darker, more potent extent.

Like a young, more ambitious Al Bundy// Wolverine, in the way he's introduced and maybe wears his clothes(leather bike jackets and jeans and so on). Add a "PrettyBoy" Floyd Mayweather(boxer who talks an unusually, enormous amount of shit) complex. Ask anybody, this guy talks SO much shit, but he can actually back it up. Then add that this character would treat women like absolute trash.

Maybe we see him throw woman out of his life alot. You know? A really handsome, scum-of-the-earth, hot head fighter kind of guy. Somebody that nobody likes for any reasons except for lustfully naive women, and to take into a fight on your side. He might always stay committed to "his group" of people, but he'd have a real fatal attraction, kind of Hate love relationshit with a very pro-woman female that's there, because "she knows what he's about all too well".

Not like Johnny and Sonya because in this concept, the two actually argue and physically beat each other up....but in the end they might shamefully "kiss and make up". They'd have to be forced to work together and such. Making them understand each others points of views, but be disgusted of each other at the same time. lol Picture a dirtier, lower class "Mr & Mrs Smith" without the marriage ever happening.

Story could have an "Ultimate consequence of "this guy getting a disease" in some way shape or form from fooling around with the wrong woman or something. I'm just saying, we never see the guy "get fucked" to a fatal degree normally so, I'd be interested in seeing your idea like that instead.



That's ridiculous. It's a females market right now, in our day and age. If you don't recognize that by now, go outside. Besides all that, females add a much needed variety to any roster of fighters. They're interesting, fun to play with, and it always has been enjoyable to watch a "girl" kick some guys ass.



I just wanna reply to this part by saying:

"To many, fighting is an elegant thing too."



I agree with your post too. Just wanna say that, "tradition" or simply put, "Formal Wear" would do the trick too.

1. Azula(formal wear for a fire soldier in this series)
2. Toph(formal wear for an earth soldier in this series)
3. Katara(traditional wear for a water women in this series)

Just sayin'



Why "appear" sexually dominant? Why not just a "pretty" woman?

See what I'm saying? "Pretty" gets the job done, and allows us to wonder about her personality(they'd just have to settle on the right pretty face.). It would also allow us the opportunity to be surprised if one of her alternate costumes, was a little more provocative. There's a realistic contrast there that hasn't been explored in this form of entertainment(video games).

Talking about "the unusually pretty good-looking librarian. But did you see her at the club last night?!?!"

or

"...but did you see her in her fighting outfit kicking that guys ass?!?! Did you see what she had on then?!"

That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. The "wow" factor over an already interesting first appearance.

She doesn't have to be fully "gowned down" to begin with...just regularly excepted as "good looking" by the way she wears what she wears.

I mean cuz you know what that's like, right?... It's what attracts people to each other. "The way they do things"(walk, talk, laugh, look at you, study a thing ect..), or "the way they wear they're clothes".

You're not gonna find a bossy chick walking around in pattened leather tights, whip in hand unless it's a freak show. She'll look good, but if you get to know her, she'll have you doing all kinds of "crazy for love" things.

I would love to have one of her alternate costumes taking hues from a dominatrix like you suggested, or any of the other women you mentioned there, really. I'm just saying that the look of an Ivy or dominatrix, shouldn't "dominate" her appearance like the pictures you have there do...

Absolutely good idea though.



Is it supposed to be upside down on purpose?

Umm..Little too close to a Khameleon concept....or Reptiles MkDa look for my taste.



BUT, what's appealing to me about how you drew that image is the Skirt//Shaw, onto her shin and foot

It's the patterns therein I think that I like. I think that if a female boss character wore armor, this would be the way to go.



YES!

That's the feel I get from an idea like Anansi had for an alt costume. Hell that looks good enough to be the primary depending on story. Only thing is, I'd like to see the primary costume have "softer" materials than the appearance of leather. Maybe even suede, crushed velvet, or some sort of animal fur. That way, things more deceptively feminine//"girlish" could be tied into her costume.

Lacy this, satin that, soft cottons, ect. Things that are more "femininely colored"(soft yet transparent pinks, lavenders, even soft earth tones), and that are "taken by the wind" easily. Not so much black for the primary....at least not in over-abundance like that example has.

The way that image feels though, is like she quite possibly could be coming to hurt you, but you wanna be sure so you won't act on the impulse yet. lol
It's like, who-the-hell-is-THAT?! And what//who is she here for?

Right on spot though.

Before I go on, I am not bisexual, therefore I'm not gay. There i said it for all you men out there that thinks I am....

But anyways...

Why does the females need to look "addtractive" to you men? Why can't they have sort of a look like this:

http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/811/811719/img_3700568.html

But they don't need to be Greek, because MK has nothing Greek in it.

Demons?

http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Warlock-t6.jpg

Why not Amazons?

http://www.warriorprincess.com/galleries/displayimage.php?album=85&pos;=11

Can this game have a different culture thing? I'm kinda tired of Chinese/Japanese cultures, even though I'm not a racist or anything like that. But its time to actually feature new cultures into this other than Chinese and Japanese.

I don't know why you keeping this thread.There will be never female boss in any MK.Its lame.We need some real boss and the real boss is the opposite of female.And Tgrand I C you like to be dominated by females.Chill its 99% of men on this planet - excluding me ofcource.Cheers

Good points across the board.

Answers? We like good looking representations of the other sex. And, I'm sure you gals don't mind that.

However, of course it's not a necessity in order to work. BUT, if more women in video games were demons, and "races" other than human, we'd have a discriminative problem on our hands.

SOoo, I guess the best way to go about it is to show you gals in your best light....no matter the alignment of the character.

Umm...I guess I wouldn't be opposed to an evil boss female character turning in-to something else. Something I didn't really think about....

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As far as the examples you gave there, when I started this thread I considered the female characters on the roster already.

While we don't have any real "amazon women" characters, we do have a couple demons, an un-dead gal, a high ranking officer, a clone, a lizard-woman(amazon lady?), a couple age defiant ninjas, a vampire, a thug, and half dragon lady on there already. Aannd everybody has super dooper, over the top special powers.

So, a relatively "normal" chick with subtle special abilities seems to be about the most "unique" thing that they could do next...(/irony) *shrugs*. lol

We have all the deformities and everything in the game already, so what logical next step do you take when that is the case?

I propose...subtlety. Or at least the passive aggressive approach.



That's about what I was saying too. The thing is, being able to display what is Mortal Kombat about a different culture. For instance,

1. African Culture probably has the most obvious MK qualities in the myths surrounding Vodoo, or the stories surrounding their extravagant wild life.

2. Latin Culture probably has "Day of the Dead"//Halloween. They have alot of Legends and Tall Tales to consider too.

3. For American Culture, that might look like Halloween, or in how we believe everything is some sort of elaborate conspiracy. lol Therefor, government, the armed forces and or corporate business scandals might be something to consider when creating a character for MK. Being a big metlting pot of cultures though, you could probably add stuff like Urban Myths, Gangs ,or Rock and Roll(hues anyway).

5. For the Asian Culture, it's the mystique in how they are so small, but over come so much. Martial Arts is a great symbol of that I think. There's also a wealth of history there to explore. Mythology, and so on.

6. Native Americans probably have MK qualities their connection with nature. Which is really cool I think because nobody can take that from them. You kind of have to give it to them every time you interpret them.

7. Caucasians mainly have MK in Greek Mythology(Rome, and all that), but it also depends alot because they've been all over the place for as long as history counts back. Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, Italy, England ect ect... Where ever the poets, and artists are from. Shakespeare, to Michelangelo, Edgar Allen Poe, to Mozart and Einstein....and and the countless others.

There's not a definitive one culture to be recognize as a result though...

8. Indian(country) culture or Middle Eastern culture, probably has religion, and relentless faith and training. They've always been like that. Could probably add dry lands wild life too.

No particular order...
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Anyway, the point is, if MK is going to consider other cultures, they'd need to look closely at each one, and respectfully pick out the elements that might compliment a MK character in the game. Say that cuz that's exactly what they did with the Asian culture thus far and it's lasted for 15+years now. Not saying they got it all the way right, but they at least got the mystique of the Asian culture interpreted fairly enough to last so long.

Notice too, that in the history of MK, people generally dislike the stereotypes. Why, You say? Because there is no substance respect shown about the culture they drew from per the character in question.

Jax is one that sticks out the most right now, what with the heavy chain, gun, and the lame voice overs. No real respect given for the Military, Hip Hop, or African American cultures in what they did with him that time.

For the cultures I didn't mention, same respect should be shown....



Awful closed minded are we? Well, we were speculating on a vampire character not too long ago, we got Nitara. A female demon character was before that, then we got Ashrah. There has been speculation of many of the characters before they got there debut as actual playable characters in the games...namely:

1. "A psychic" = Ermac and or Kenshi
2. "A water ninja named Hydro from the comics" = Rain
3. "A Witch" = Sindel
4. "Another God" = We got Earth, Wind, and Fire, AND an Elder God now. But notably, = Fujin and Shinnok
5. "A guy with a skin-head look" = Quan Chi
6. "Robots" = Cyrax, Sektor, Smoke
7. "Inferno" = Blaze
8. "A female Reptile" = Khameleon
9. "The Dragon King" = Onaga
10. "Samurai" = arguably, Hotaru and or Dairou.

There's a few more...All speculated either by fans or by the MkTeam that we knew about before we got them playable in the game.

And anyway, quit hatin' on me.

lol

Oh yea, one more thing: There's more females on the Earth right now than there are men. So, you're wrong there too. Look it up, there's still a ratio of about 2Females:1Male



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Quick Question to all: What Kinds of unique Powers Should she have as a boss?

A couple people have mentioned speed or weapons, but what's her "thing" besides that?

Why isn't this thread stickied yet? It's become three pages long in a little over a week.

Surely that is the only argument required...

As a boss, she should have to power to go inside the minds of others to manipulate them into doing her works. They can't stop her from doing it lol

Now i`m not any sexist or anything else .
i would really love these ladies to be a females boos
1.sheeva-why because she a half from goro(her brother )since mk3 sheeva was running toward u and douing the combo that took a huge amount of life out of u and then the stump and over again.shes fit to be a boss!
2.Mileena-she was a queen of nails queen of sharpness queen of beatting the heck out of them.in umk3 she was not that tough because they made soem in-and out indeigusts to her.She`s a really good female boss including her falility in mkd the taking the veil off and then do here famous mk2 teeth drilling.She rocks make here the boss also!
3.My half sister from mileena kitana.she has the fan throw the fan swipe the falilty fan swipe and the fan lift.the kiss of death.the steel fans are made for famously beauty!
4.Jade-she`s the kinda of lady who you give respect.she has beauty/.are moves the shadow kick are from her friend johnny cage.she had all the moves from kitana from mk2.got her own moves in mk3.she didn`t return in mk4-mkda.she made her impactfully return in mkd where she has the must brutal staff that any woman could have.
5.Storm(from x-men next dimeision)-shes tough as nails.shes the goddess of thunder.an african goddess.she went to charles xavier.shes one tough cookie.shes a good goddess-type boss
6.dark phoneix-when phoneix turns into her dark from this is her.shes fitted in the boss .
7.phoenix-The original of her.Her real name is Jean Grey.
all the girls all fit for bosses thats all i got to say ty.

its its............... oooomama the dragon queen

...You know something that was always in the back of my head since Deception. I love Li Mei. She's my favorite MK character, hands down. As much as I like her being a good guy she would also make just an incredible female boss.

Being Onaga's queen and what not. Instead of being saved by Bo Rai Cho what if she had just been saved by Onaga after he ravaged Raiden and the deadly alliance.

What if he wasn't just satisfied having a bombshell for a queen? What if he infused her with some hyped up energy?

I think that would have been a more interesting sub-boss than stupid Noob-Smoke.

I simply agree with the topic.

At least make a female the sub-boss (Sheeva doesn't count in MKA since she shared with all the other guys).

I'd like her to be scary in that dark, horror movie kind of way, and I'd like her to be dressed respectably.

It only works for DEAD OR ALIVE bosses.
You know the game...?DOA
It would be a good Idea to have a Woman as a boss at least once.
But I think their should be more to it. I think the Boss should be like...
A tag Team Boss.
Like...A guy and a Woman. That would be cool.

What? Why does it only work with DOA? DOA has only had one female boss out of it's four games.

I Know.

But now after seeing some Pictures I like some Ideas about it.
But I still would like it to be a Tag team Boss.

I love Firesnakes Idea so much. She has that Evil looking look.
It's awesome!

Now that I've read the thread, I've got more to say.

Predator: I wouldn't like the female boss to be a vampire. I think it if anything it should be a sorceress because we've never had one in MK other than Taven's mom but she wasn't a main character or anything.

I also strongly disagree that she should look beautiful. We need less of these pageant contestants in MK, and if a female boss were to be one of them, it would just make her un-intimidating and bosses should ALWAYS be intimidating.


Thank you. After reading all the sexist crap these other cumshots have posted, those words made my day.


I concur. It's a real bummer having blow-up dolls to play as.


She's too skimpy.

Here is the coolest game boss ever: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ug4351JzxM

This is what an MK female boss she be like except having more MK elements of course.

Predator, I love your desire for a female boss, but....


No. See, that would ruin it. A female boss' appearance should wreak power like Sindel's. What kind of boss elements are "dainty," "harmless," and 'powerfless-looking"? That would make her like an anti-boss, which is just downright silly.


Here here!!!


Best thing you've ever said. And yes, "sexy" would mean not intimidating, and that's just wrong for a boss.


Okay that does it, Sub-Frost. You are my new best friend!


We do mind that. The smart ones anyway when it's taken to far (which it always is in MK with the female wearing skin for more than half of their outfits). And you men are too greedy too often.

Here... an evil female boss from X-Men.... powerful and intimidating, and look.... she's not skimpy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8qphDcdL_OI&feature;=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d78WSllc3MA&feature;=related

I think it's sad that MK and other game series don't offer female gamers more things that appeal to them. I read somewhere that more than 30% of gamers are females. That number would go much higher if the industry would stop being so sexist and catering to males like 99% of the time.

A female boss would be great as long as she's intimidating and treated as seriously as the male bosses, instead of turning her into some blow-up doll.

a female boss would be cool. They could make her a sorceress and have her power rival, or surpass, Shang Tsung's and Quan Chi's.

I have an idea. Wait a sec.

Alright, then how about an Old Woman God Character?

Seriously..

She'd definitely be ugly enough, powerful enough, and respectable enough.

She wouldn't have the boobs or anything, she'd certainly should be all covered up.

I was thinking about this the other day, and your post gave me a chance to present it.

"Hama", from Avatar Last Airbender. episode "Puppet Master. She's a "bloodbender".

So?

READ THIS Idea:

Scorpion hunts down Quan Chi in Armageddon. Scorpion kills Quan and in doing so breaks the Medallion. Quan with a sick laugh calls Scorpion a fool, then dies. Scorpion then sees the essence (which looks like a ghost) coming out of the broken Medallion. It looks like his wife (cuz I think Lucifer should shapeshift). Scorpion finally feels happiness. Lucifer will end up using Scorpion to help her build an army and fight Shinnok and his minions for control of the netherealm. She tricks Scorpion by pretending that shes his wife. She tells him that by defeating Shinnok, both scorpion and her will be accepted into the heavens and reunite with his son.

She tells him it is heavens bidding that it be done. He believes it.

Lucifer is in a very weak state. She could easily be trapped again. She needs Scorpions protection. So she hides in Scorpions layer, and every day that passes she get stronger and more powerful. She wants the netherealm back. Shinnoks version is weak. People can escape. She wants it to be the hell it used to be. Torturous to all realm beings, a real Hell. And after she makes that happen she wants to make every realm a netherealm.

She tells Scorpion to find followers of hers and free them(2 new characters who are wicked evil). They help build her army under Shinnoks nose.

Second game at the ending when she has conquered the netherealm she tells her follower to kill Scorpion. Scorpion escapes. Her follower is 2 scared 2 tell her of the escape

She finally shows her true form in the last game and challenges the elder gods and one being for power over the heavens. But only one knows how to stop her, Scorpion.

After Scorpion flees from the netherealm He searches for the only way he thinks he can rejoin his family. The komidogu(maybe a konquest). He finds them all, puts them together and the One being tells him in order to get to heaven he must defeat Lucifer.

overview?
I want her to be the most evil character in the game. Killing the majority of all the realms inhabitants, and almost turning every realm into hell. This should be done over a 2 or 3 game series to build her character. She should be the boss in the last game and shouldnt be playable in the first game.

It should also be noted that Lucifer calls Scorpion by his real name. To make it sound like they were once together.

It only really speaks of Lucifer in Mk Mythologies. When it says Lucifer its as if Lucifer is a male. But since its in mythologies I would change the story a bit and make lucifer female. I dont want her character to have any religious characteristics, but in the game as she becomes more powerful she will become worshipped.

Looks:

I have no clue what she should look like. She should look beautiful at first. But when she chooses to show her true form it should be scary evil looking.

Moves

Dark Supernatural bloody moves should be it. I think one move should be a demeantor(harry potter) type thing. Where she can make you think that you hear your parents dying or something like that. I dont know how you would make that work in a videogame tho. A fatality should be where she gives you an evil stare(her eves turn black) and the other character starts bleeding out of every oriface, then collapses and dies.

What do yall think? Maybe yall can give me some ideas for her.

Scorpion would end up battling with the likes of Noob, Smoke (maybe teaming up with Sub-zero a bit), and Shinnok. As a character he would finally develop. I love this idea

She doesn't have to be old and ugly. She can have pleasant features and still look respectable and intimidating, you know.

Didn't you see the video links I posted? Parasite Eve was intimidating and so was the Dark Phoenix from the 90's toon. Both weren't ugle hags, nor were they fake skanks, yet they still got the job done well.

Yes, I saw the links you posted, and I remember those characters. However, there essentially seems to be some confusion as to what we both interpret as "beautiful". I think all the women in those videos, are examples of powerful, "beautiful", women characters...

So....

First, I want to challenge you to describe, in detail, your own ideal "female boss" character. Fits the threads criteria, and I just think it would make for an interesting read.

Second, I'll just give up a glimpse of what I think "beautiful" is.


Beautiful to me, most simply equals a "flawless appearance".
Little to no wrinkles, freckles, pimples ect..yet there are some stunning exceptions to that rule for me. Sometimes those things compliment the female.

As far as her weight, and body shape, nothing that really violates her bone structure can contribute to beauty for me. For example, a woman whom is 5' ft tall, but "800lbs", is unacceptable for a fighting game diva. Excessively, extremely over weight. I wouldn't mind a "plus sized vixen" is what I'm saying.

I also don't have a reasonable appreciation for the physically disabled or deformed....So, no female boss whom has an unusual face, or body attributes is acceptable for me. (an eye that's unusually shaped, or mis-located..that sort of thing) I can't really tolerate the character "Meat" as a result.

A character that resembles a child is out of the question. No logic or reason suffices for why I think that way, other than the fact that I have kids of my own. So no female(or male for that matter) character that is blatantly portrayed as a child.

Examples of female characters that I like, are almost the exact same as yours. So I'm really surprised we don't agree. However, here's a list of women characters that I like that kind of embody what I've said so far.

Mortal Kombat:

1. Sonya: She's not a "goddess" in appearance by any means, but I think she's a "beautiful" woman character. The versions of her that I like the best are during the Kerri Hoskins era, and MKSM.

2. Queen Sindel: She's a beautiful woman character, but is also "sexy". She represents my limit for "sexy" in a video game, and is also exotic. I like exotic looking women. I don't care about the "gothic" thing so much, and am more interested in the depth that a witch-like association provides. Even though she technically neither witch or gothic.

3. Jade: Again, beautiful, sexy, exotic. She may not be African American, but I appreciate her skin tone. It's relative to my nationality.

4. Sareena: Sonya, Sindel, and Jade wraped in one.

5. Nitara: Almost the exact same as Sareena.

Soul Calibur:

1. Ivy Valentine: Relative to Sindel and Sonya. However she does happen to have some typical female character attributes. The boobs, the skimpy outfit...ect.

2. Setsuka: Relative to Sareena actually.

3. Seong Mi-Na: Relative to Jade except for the possible relative nationality.

Street Fighter:

1. Chun Li:

2. Cammy : Relative to Sonya.

Guilty Gear X:

1. Dizzy: Relative to Nitara..

Eternal Champions:

1. Shadow: Relative to Jade.

Marvel Comics:

1. Storm: Relative to Raiden and Jade

2. Rogue: Relative to Sareena and Sonya.

ect ect ect....no need to list tem all. There's also women from cartoons and movies, and other video games. I'll stop here however.

So yea, I'm interested in your take on all this.

I would like to see some female sub-bosses in the game because i feel that guys arent the only strong ones!!! (even though i am a boy)

LOL. Amazing thread Pred!!!

Nothing better then this Anyone remember? (Too bad only one drawn picture is shown...I drew every single one of her special moves and sexy fatalities!)

Octopus-like Female Sub-boss!!!!

I started all the crazyness about having a female boss*sub-boss for Mk. Its about time we get one!


PS: Sonya, Sindel and Mileena are: Pure Goddess! ^_^ Perfect in every sense of their character creation and essence of their "personality". The sexy but decently dressed tough "I-dont-need-a-man-to-rule-the-world" woman, the exotic goth-like beautiful witch, and the sexy psychotic sadistic clone. Perfect.

I remeber that. I miss those days of MKO.
Here was my own female boss thread prior to MKA.
Supreme Empress Tanya

Haven't really replied in this thread for a while but, for the idea of a woman boss like the octopus lady in your old thread, I'd have to disagree with it. Unless she's normally portrayed as "regular", and in some dramatic, grotesquely (no "poofs" of fire or smoke or whatever. I wanna see everything as she changes.) animated sequence during her fight, she transforms into a beast such as that, I would not approve.

Problem I see with it now, realizing that it's an older idea, is that for me, there is a disconnection with establishing realism with it. Somehow, a beast that is falsely human offers more flavor to me.

I love fantasy, but "things that go bump in the night" is something I'm personally past to a greater extent, and would not fully appreciate any longer. On the other hand, a creature that is deceptively human reeks of baddie goodness for all in my mind.

Nobody likes to be deceived in such a way and I think that if your idea was implemented with mine ( and I think, a little of TGrants there too), our female boss character could have some really strong staying power.



Only real thing about it I don't like is Tanya. I hate her yellow skirt guts.....lol