I would take Quan Chi over Scorpion any day. Scorpion cannot be saved.

Wrong question.

Should we save Scorpion?

No more Scorpion = No more MK

Yeah, Scorpion is Boon's favorite character.

Well PNF, things still look rather grim for Scorpion, and either the MK team don't realize this or they do know and don't care.

Since we'll be seeing Scorpion return, I think he should kill Quan Chi during Armageddon. However, despite his victory, he should feel empty and lost. This could become a turning point into him developing into someone wise and competent instead of his currently mindless self.

For someone who is from a clan founded by the creator of Ninjutsu, I find it odd for Scorpion to NOT use Ninjutsu. I'm not just talking about his unarmed styles not being any of the ones that were used by the historical Ninja, such as Gyokushin Ryu. I'm also referring to Ninjutsu itself, which is basically the methods of stealth, espionage, infiltration, etc.

If you remember in his MKD bio, it states that in his haste to defeat his nemesis Quan Chi, he was ambushed by Drahmin and Moloch. So instead of using any Ninjutsu tactics, such as studying his surroundings or coming up with a plan to sneak through Shang Tsung's Palace, he simply rushes in like a madman, probably wielding his joke swords.

If he's supposed to be this Japanese Ninja from a Japanese Ninja clan, whose founder created by first Ninjutsu Ryu-ha, then Scorpion should at least have some Ninja characteristics and use some Ninjutsu tactics. I know the Ninja-type characters in MK are based off of stereotypes, but even then, Scorpion doesn't seem to be a stereotypical Ninja.

Overall, Scorpion needs revamping in a few, perhaps even several, attributes, from his character and story to his swords and costume.

Btw, there is a thread in the MK Games: 92-00 section about what people hate about Scorpion. I suggest you check that out.



lol...Well, given that Scorpion is Ed Boon's favorite character and that we'll pretty much be seeing Scorpion again and again, wouldn't it be better if he were saved as opposed to still being like he is now? I mean, if we have to deal with his constant presence, it should be a good, interesting one.



But Scorpion has become an absolute imbecile. He doesn't serve much purpose in MK's story itself. Sure, he's very popular, but a big chunk of his popularity is based on the shallowness of those who care about his looks, moves, and him being a Ninja Specter.

While I do like Scorpion, his story in Armageddon was a little crappy. Something else to put vengence on? Puhleez! However, I personally believe that his stories in the past (including MKD and MKDA) were pretty awsome. It wasn't just scorpion's story that they ruined (or atleast scratched), look at Kitana, Smoke, Kintaro, Kung Lao (however that one was pretty funny), and Kobra (even though he was kinda bland to beigin with)
Scorpion should stay. He and Subby are the poster boyz of MK. However, If Scorion's story ends up with him transforming into a scorpion or somethin, I will say goodbye....maybe.

What's awesome about his MKDA storyline? It's all about him going after Quan Chi, only to get his ass kicked. And then he just brushes off and heads back to Outworld again, hastily trying to get to Quan Chi, only to get ambushed and beaten up by Drahmin and Moloch and then tossed into the Soulnado.

It's more than just Scorpion's story that has been ruined. It's also his personality that's been messed up.

Regarding the characters you mentioned:

Kitana: Kind of, but she's in much better shape than Scorpion is

Smoke: He hasn't been in that many games, and we still don't know much about him.

Kintaro: He has been in less games than Smoke has and he is just about as unexplored as Smoke is.

Kung Lao: Funny? Not to me...It seems that his MKSM self is his official personality, which is terrible.

Kobra: I'm not sure why you brought him into this since he's a relatively new character.

Yes, we know that Scorpion and Sub-Zero are the poster boys of MK, but unlike Scorpion, Sub-Zero has gotten better. He's actually a very well-developed character and is more of a real Ninja than Scorpion is, even though I don't like to consider him or the other Lin Kuei as Ninja.

Scorpion,Sub-Zero, and Liu Kang kept the first few games going but
i think now it's time for some people like Dairou, Havik, and Hotaru to step up and take over

Actually, all ninja in the MK universe are techinally MK ninjas and MK ninjas are not as the same as real world ninjas of old.

Nor they are not equal to the real world ninjas either.

I already said that.

Scorpion wasn't in MK3 and it was not that bad without him

MK3 suffered more of the lack of Johnny Cage IMO

No...People were definitely complaining about things such as the lack of Scorpion.

Scorpion is kool and all but hes just overstayed his visit.

Have him kill Raiden.

really it is boons excuse to keep scropion going in any way possible no matter how much they screw up a story or retarded they make him look
as long as they can design and put him in the game as a playable character
if theres mk
theres scorpion

Ridiculous.

owns

You'd have to gang up on Raiden with more powerful characters...lol...Not to mention Raiden has Kangs corpes under his power right now. Liu Kangs' corpes vs Scorpion? That'd be interesting...more even a match anyway, even if you consider Scoprion the champion of the gods.

Characters that could give Raiden a problem alonewould be:
1. Shujinko(more experienced)
2. Onaga
3. Shinnok
4. Fujin(stretch)
5. Shao Kahn(even further stretch)

Everybody else would need help to deal...most of whom would fail anyway.

Anyway, on topic. How can one save Scorpion now?

You don't.
You involve His son.

Maybe a different plain of exsistance, different universe even, but Mortal Kombat has enough mythology involved to bring his son from the realm of death. Maybe he's alive somewhere//sometime else. Well, this concept mainly coming from Greek mythology anyway...but yea.

Nah. I'd rather they not involve his son or even his wife as actual playable characters. I can only imagine them making the son a Scorpion Jr. I still say Scorpion should kill Quan Chi and having that be the start of the turning point for Scorpion's persona.

I agree the whole revenge thing is old,but this is why he exists basically, all he wants is revenge, and then he can rest in peace. SO if he were to kill quan chi scorpion would cease to exist.

Honestly I really could care less at this point. Scorpion has dug himself so far into a hole he is beyond saving. He is just a dumb character now and needs to die. Hopefully either in the intro of the next game, or something, he will die. Or Quan Chi dies or something. Just get rid of Scorpion.

If that happens, I'd be kind of glad as Scorpion has become such a dumbass that he's not that worth caring about.

However, since he's going to return, Quan Chi shouldn't return as that would lead to more revenge.

Yes, his existence as a specter is as a means of revenge, but what if he kills Quan Chi and his soul does not rest? What if he realizes just how much revenge has consumed him and changes to become the noble, honorable person he was before his stupid retcons?

To have Scorpion continue to be an imbecile and for the majority of the Scorpion fanbase to still kiss his ass would be very disgusting.

Well, you see.....I kinda agreed with that pespective when I first thought about it too. Speculating hypetheticlly now(lol), his son's not a ninja, and if he grew up without his father, or without knowlege of his fathers' ways of late...he would encounter different influences that would bring him up to be a totally different character....

I think it'd be interesting to see Scorpion and his son fight for causes unbeknowns to each other that are opposite each other at the same time. There's all kinds of depth and character development available there.

As far as the son and Quan Chi, they could play it a couple of ways:

1. The son kills Chi before Scorpion can = Scorpion seeks out "the killer" of his enemy...And when he finds him??

2. Opposite^^

3. Quan Chi kills Scorpion for good....the coming of the son of Scopion.

4. They realize who they are (father and son) but conflict still through values, customs, disciplines...ect Maybe his son is from the Chaos or better the Order realm? Hell, maybe they both have the same goal but just hate each other....lol It would make Scorpion think about if the whole "revenge" thing is even worth continuing..

The way I see it, is that the son will have little to no knowlege about all of the relationships pre-armegeddon, but he should have been old enough to remember the face of the man who killed him and his mother. Just like Scorpion remembered Sub-Zero. Besides, who forgets a big litterally "white" guy with red tatoos?

I wouldn't re-vive his mother though...that would likely be another example of a Sindel type character. As well, she was likely just a house-wife way back when. And in any kind of "underworld", the best she would probably be become would be either a Mage of some sort, or a Healer.....which is kind of one and the same.

Raiden's become blind with rage himself. He's not exactly in amongst the smartest of characters.

However, I can see Scorpion killing Quan Chi in the beginning of the next game. I can see that he's become so ridden and tormented that the Elder Gods won't let him rest, because he's strayed from his task, which was to stop Armageddon. You've also got Shujinko, who helped Scorpion find Quan Chi in Deception, in which Quan Chi ran from him.

I think that Scorpion is still a powerful being, and will always be a feared kombatant - however his purpose is just like what a spectre is...it's stuck there, in between life and death. Scorpion is prolonging his existence by continuing to let his prey evade him.

I think the perfect way for Scorpion to finally become something...bigger and better would have to play out like this...

1. He encounters Quan Chi and he defeats him, once and for all. However, he's weakened and attackec by someone else. ( We can say Shang Tsung); and sent to the Nether Realm.

2. Shang Tsung will find a need for Quan and try to resurrect him, however - Scorpion will finally destroy Quan Chi in the Nether Realm, completely obliterating him from existence.

3. Shang will open a portal and Scorpion will return instead of Quan Chi, and at this point enter Liu Kang ( Who also craves Vengence).

4. Both Scorpion and Kang attack Shang and he's overwhelmed, however both of them see the need to finish the sorceror themselves and battle over it. Scorpion bests Kang because he's not thinking - Vengeance is, and he's blinded. Scorpion, thinking clearly now, turns to finish Shang - however, he escaped.

5. Scorpion is aggrivated and notices that Kang has also escaped him as well. He sets out to find out the orchestrator of this - Raiden.

6. Scorpion sets aside his priorities and tracks down Raiden and Kang. Knowing that the forces of Light are also trying to put an end to Kang's body's rampage, Scorpion tries to beat them there.

7. Scorpion reaches the temple where Kang is located, and he begins to do battle with Kang. However, in this battle, he abuses his powers given to him by the Elder Gods and defeats Kang again. However, as he's about to destroy Kang's body, Raiden strikes him from behind.

8. A battle ensues and Scorpion draws all of his energy from the Elder Gods and does battle with Raiden. Scorpion isn't the only one with a bone to pick with Raiden - because the forces of Light have also arrived to set him straight, with Fujin.

9. Scorpion scorns the Elder Gods for their powers not being enough, and he's struck down by the elder gods and pushed through the Earth's crust into the fires of Hell. At the same point, The Forces of Light free Raiden from all the negative energy, sending a shock wave throughout the realms.

10. Scorpion is changed in the shockwave and realizes his true purpose, He rises from the grave on his own, no longer wearing the yellow smock to mock the LK.

Incorrect.

Taint does not effect intelligence....Might effect judgement, but not intellect. Therefor he is not blinded. Raiden knows exactly what he's doing, he just doesn't realize he's been tainted.

Fujin suspects this. He mentions in his bio that Raidens behavior after a sacrifice should be without knowlege of past events. But Raiden does have knowlege of the past and is acting according to that knowlege.



There's no indication Shujinko helped Scorpion find//hunt Quan Chi at all. Unless I missed something from one of the conquest modes, Scoprion hunted Quan Chi all on his own.

Secondly too, the task he was given by the elder gods was to defeat Onaga, which turned out to be non-cannon... ??



Agreed. I re-read some of their bios and stuff before replying to this part, and I find it kind of stupid how Scorpion could torment Quan Chi in the NetherRealm and not have killed him already. He didn't torment Sub-Zero before he killed him....he just killed him. Y'know?



Why would Shang Tsung attack Scorpion? Too, I would think Shang Tsung could theoreticlly handle Scorpion....sourcerer of souls and all?..



Again, why? What purpose could Shang Tsung have for Quan Chi? If Scorpion were to kill Quan Chi, I'd think that would make everybody happy. Scorpion, Shang Tsung, Shinnok...just about anyone important to having him alive. Not to mention Sareena, Raiden, Sub-Zero, Noob Saibot & Smoke. Yea, he's pretty much a thorn for alot of people.



Vengence against Shang Tsung right? It's uncharacteristic of Liu Kang to be vengeful.Now, "by the will of Raiden to oust all potential threats"? Then yea, I'd agree more.



That's interesting, but I'd have Shang and Scorpion take care of the corpse first. Then Scorpion and Shang Tsung fight. Much like Quan Chi and Shang Tsung both fought Raiden first, then faced each other.



That's really interesting to read. Though I do think Scorpion vs Liu Kangs corpse and Raiden is a mistake because Scorpion can't whoop Kang or Raiden. Another thing is, if the Elder Gods banished anyone from the MkUniverse, I'm pretty confident they would stay where they got put. This is conidering Shinnok as the only exception, and also that they put the One Being into unconsiousness. Scorpion should be no problem, but you gotta wiegh it.

That's what I think though.

That's what I'd be thinking the MK Team could take...Be advised that I'm taking that Scorpion will be ABUSING his powers from the Elder Gods, whereas Kang doesn't ( He doesnt have the same strength as he would with his spirit -)

Oh, one of the Deception missions had Shujinko tracking down Quan for Scorpion to find him and let him handle him and had Scorpion kick his ass and Quan running for it. Scorpion then trained Shujinko.

I never said Scorp would win in the battle against Raiden, just that he would try to max himself out and - not finding the power sufficient enough, he curses the gods.