MKA took 7/10 at gamespot
mk vs dc will be 5/10 for sure
because the story doesn't fit
I mean superman is god
you can't defeat god
because of superman the game will fail...
Definitly, MK WILL LOSE THIS BATTLE, I mean its super man, people can't see superman died or kicked.If they fail the battle means this is last game of mk then dc characters we take over.....thats for sure, because thats whats ed boon wants....that's why he joined the dc characters to get ride of mk characters and start a new story like superman........think about it.....
I can't believe what I am seeing, it's too weird...., something is going on with boon ...and suppose liu kang is back
liu kang vs. superman = both are heros why the hell liu kang wants to fight superman since they both are good characters...
it should be bad vs. good= mk vs. dc
soo we are not going to see the heros in mk like liu kang or johnny cage or rayden or sonya because to fit the story, they all have to be bad characters, like shao khan, kano, reptile, ......
but who knows it's just a game

Fuck, MKF, you've been in the same position since at least two years now, when will you just realise that EVERY SINGLE TIME you try to argue, you end up looking like a jackass 'cause you don't conced nothing, you don't bring actual fact, but instead empty opinions solely based on fanboyism. It's like you just can't accept that Boon isn't God or something... as if he had saved your life, he was your mom or whatever.

You said the same thing and people said the same thing ever since you first came! Open your eyes and see! Go back to the first threads you participated in! What has changed? Other people got tired of you and decided to leave you to argue the same stuff against someone else!

Thank you, friend. 100% truth here.

Look who's talking, Iam laughing at you....what the fuck I have to say dude,what the fuck is your problem.........? I only reply to specific and special threads, but this thread is full of garbage, you know that, what do they call it crap thread.....why .....because you shouldn't say lousy game,.......just keep staying up for mk8 until get you get bored. One thing I don't read threads, I look for news and post them and reply to crap threads. I don't have time to read kids stuff. you don't like it you can igonre it. *I could have answered in another way, ok man it's my fault I'll change it and Iam sorry, but you show no respect, no respect then your nothing, and you speak about me as if your know everything and you don't know anything including mk.........

Leo, you are a true fan but after reading your post I can only assume one thing:


You are dissapointed and fell let down.


I understand this and I will not lash out at some one who feels this way. My best advise is to deal with it in the best way you know how, or just simply move on to bigger and better things. Just because some of us are looking forward to this game does not mean that we are obsessed, too accepting or even insane as you see it.

It means that the promise of a new game means exactly that, A NEW GAME. You have to realize that this new game presents what could be the start of an excellent side series of MK games akin to Marvel vs Capcom or even Capcom vs SNK. Neither of the aforementioned game's story interfered with the originating titles story arcs. They were just good clean, sold games which are still played to this day.

A new, pure MK will no doubt emerge, but I say just keep an open mind about this new game. Besides, if they pit Darkseid aganst Shao Khan, that would make for an epic battle/story in and of itself. The world of Apocolypse attempting to overtake Shao Khan's outworld would be the shit!

I will go on record to say that I have very little expectation for the gameplay given the past three games, but if they manage to produce something special, then that's just laying the foundation for the next pure MK game.


Peace

So do you guys have a hot line or something? lol because we all know Shy just "loves" MK....hilarious, I love the fact that you have to PM your buddies to try to help your horrible attempt at an argument.

But a few fact for you shy, A. you're another user on here who's beyond arrogant and arrogance blinds people to see the truth. In your case.

Secondly, lol when did I ever say Boon was a god or something? Do you pull this shit out of your ass or did Prodigy write that for you?

LOL again, you need to open your eyes because let's see here your little "anti MKF groupies" are either A.all gone and left MKO...hhmmm why's that again Shy? B. All banned or C. straight out trolls that contribute nothing to MKO and eventually get banned.

I don't give a shit about what a few losers thought about me when I first joined, I came here for MKO and to discuss other topics. If someone hates me, lol ask me if I'll lose sleep because I won't.

I assure you, that's a load of bs because I've made lots of friends on here and like 4 or 5 people I can't stand? wow...because you prodigy, alpha and 2 other people represent "all of MKO" lol you are rather amusing.

I suggest you read more carefully because I HAVE brought up fact, you're just to arrogant to see it. If you read within this thread, among others you'll see others besides myself pointing out facts as to WHY judging this game prior to it coming out is just flat out dumb or because "OMG Batman" is in it is just laughable....



And another thing, you're saying ohh well some people don't like me and don't try to disagree...it's more like they have no point to argue with me to begin with and you're not exactly loved on the general forums, you piss off more people with your "spam" like posts then anything I've noticed the past few years. I know many people on here that don't like you and think you're very arrogant. So, forgive me for laughing when I read "you think Ed boon is god" or something yet...this coming from a guy that think he's "god's gift to women"......amusing

Midway's track record is bad gameplay. You can say "You can't tell yet, noob!" all you like, but I've seen it with each successive reiteration through MKDA, MKD, and MKA - the gameplay has been... fairly shite. Boon has learned things, but it's never been good enough. Him and his team can't make a fighting game mechanic to save their lives.

Gameplay is pretty much the games only saving grace now. When you take away blood, and a good (insular) story, all you have is "Wow, Batman vs Sub-Zero OMG!" and gameplay. (So both sets of fans can be equally retarded...)

The gameplay will be shite. No, I can't tell, but allow me to make my predictions, and let me eat them if you like. Call it a feeling, but this is all a repeat. "Wow every Mortal Kombat character in one game!" = "Wow, Superman vs Scorpion".

That and the idea is a desperate marketing strategy to begin with. What Boon may or not realize is that all gimmicks are off; it's time to make a great fighting game.
Even if you can handle the MKA mechanic, try tell me it's "a great fighting game" with a straight face. In fact, try telling me any MK game after Umk3 is "a great fighting game". And yes, I know the classic 2D MK games were broken too, but it's all about perspective. MK4, MKDA, MKD, and MKA are unforgivable for the time and what they competed against. They've hung on through gimmicks, and this game is using the same strategy.

I'll wait and see, but my prediction is = same old same old with Batman and some innovative Freefall Kombat.

The 3d games do have their issues, but MKA is better then MKD by far...as someone who's banked 10, 000+matches online I can easily vouche for that and say it's true. And not for nothing but a casual or average MK fan isn't going to know this stuff as much as an online player that plays online constantly....there's flaws in Tekken, SF, SC too...every game has their own brand of problems.

Not to mention MK2, MK3, UMK3 and MK:DA are good MK games as well. Especially UMK3 and MK:SM was very good, but hey you'll always find someone to complain about something.

If someones going in with the attitude "this game will blow" before even playing it, then it will blow for you. There's also no point in following it at all if someone feels that way.

The gameplay looks very promising, in lots of ways better then the previous 3.

We'll have to wait and see.

you know... lots of people on here repeat the same things... the game play will probably be good.. keep an open mind...

the game is going to suck because of the story.....

Honestly ... all i know is that i don't plan on paying a dime to this game cause A. I wanted answers I am not going to get now about the story. and B. because every single DC Game I have ever played....was bad....in my opinion...

the history is there...thats my reasons

i can see why the tread start..and i see why people are pissed and happy...to me its cool

So a fighting game will suck because it has a bad storyline? Tekken, DOA, SSB, SF, VF, SC, and KOF would like a word with you.

And to try to change your opinion:

A. You can still get answers. I think the game will explain who killed Blaze at the end of MKA (bets on Taven.) The survivors of the fight will then get mixed up with DC, and then you can complain about the story

B. Yeah, DC games suck. But this game is being developed by an experienced MK team.

Like every other pro MKvDCU fan will tell you, keep an open mind bro

Most DC games suck(sadly) but there was a few good, namely Justice League Heroes. Rumor has it there will be a sequel.

Who... the hell are you talking to? I tried to reply but I don't even know what's going on in this post... are you insulting something specific or someone specific or... just testing out the new computer at the insane asylum? Please make more coherent posts so that people can interpret them and reply accordingly.



Great post. It really seems true that Boon has, as of late, been putting his money on gimmicks rather than taking the hard route and trying to make the MK game great for itself, without any superficial hooks. MKA's clear hook was "every MK character is here!", and I felt Boon bet so much on this gimmick that he let other important and tougher factors out such as a proper storyline for the cast, etc.

This makes me fear that MKDC (can we just call it that now?) is following the same pattern. I'm afraid that Boon is once again taking the risky/easier road and unleashing a surprising gimmick in hopes that it'll make him the money he wants to make (or the company, whatever). And obviously me and lots of other people dislike this new gimmick a lot, lot more than MKA's, so if Boon ignores other vital factors of the upcoming game with a mentality that "having DC in it is enough", this backlash is going to only worsen.



This is true that if you get technical, you're always gonna find problems even in the best fighting mechanic. But like I said, it can be forgiven if the other points of the game are intriguing and fun. I've forgiven all of MK's past gameplay flaws in favor of its cast and how intriguing the next chapter in the saga was.



I think the people in here who are like that have already left. The rest of us who dislike the idea of MKDC but are still here are staying open to the possibility that something might come along that'll fire up/revive our interest once more. Sure, right now we think it blows, but as I've been saying, we think it blows from what we've seen so far (and that's merely the fact that DC is in it).



I personally think Tekken's storyline isn't too bad - I've learned to never expect oscar-worthy scripts for video games. I just wanna be intrigued by the story enough to care what happens to my favorites in the next chapter of the franchise. This is why I've been generally excited about the entries in the Tekken series - it has very good gameplay IMO, and I always get interested in the storyline enough to wanna pick it up and beat the game with the cast. I can't talk about the other games, though (I've played some of them, but never followed the storyline), but I'm just saying to make a statement here.

And the game actually might explain the end of MK:A and provide some sort of continuation of the story, but again, I'd rather the continuation of MK:A consisted of Mortal Kombat and its cast of returning characters, and not the involvement of superheroes from another universe. It's like I've said before, MKDC or an MK cross-over isn't necessarily a flat-out horrible idea, but the fact that THIS is the time Boon chose for it pisses me and a lot of people off, because he's wasting a chance to revive MK and make it great FOR ITSELF and ITS OWN POTENTIAL in favor of taking the easy road and going for shock value.



Very valid post, malone. I'll go ahead and admit that when I made the starter post, I was heated. The sudden anouncement of MKDC just crushed every hope I had for what MK:8 could've been, and in the heat of the moment, I was ready to kidnap Boon's family and hold them hostage.

I've calmed down since then, though the disappointment still lingers. But due to the fact that I did calm down, I'm able to say that I leave open the possibility that something will come along in the future news and announcements that'll make me want to play and, dare I say, buy the game. Hell, maybe even a render of Sonya would do the trick.

But you nailed it: I feel disappointed and let down, and that's the main reason for my hostility, despite my attempts over and over again to remain civil and not sound TOO biased. I personally think I'm in a good place right now: recognizing the chance that something might return my interest in MK:8 while still staying true to how I really feel about this game right now and supporting the opposers who currently feel the same.

Ok, well said Leo totally see where you're coming from. Thanks for seeing my point of view as well dude.

Dude, reading throughout these threads and all, and heavily considering that I like you...You make it really hard to agree with you.

1. The fact that you play online alot doesn't mean anything besides you play online alot.

There's nothing statistical, nothing substantial, nothing even relevant besides the fact that it's mk we're talking about. Online and Offline don't render different mechanics, or system habits in the game. The same mistakes in gameplay on and offline, are identical. Exit lag, ping and all that..

2. The fact that you use scapegoats in your speech pattern never distracts from the points you're usually making, as commonly invalid, erroneous, or pure fiction. For example:

"MkA was waay better than MkD, IMO....but everyone's entitled to their own opinion I guess"

As for that example I just gave, I'm not claiming that you actually said that, but rather, that it's a fictional example. Both games were broken, and trying to claim that one was (in fact) better than the other one, especially in comparison to other fighters out there, is like comparing the color or size of the a pile crap to another one. Still crap at the end of the debate. MKD and MKA were crappy...especially concerning game-play, cuz it didn't work like it was set up to. Broken.

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To this thread>>

Now, In reference to MK8 and this thread. I totally understand why people//Leo are condemning this game already. Contrary to past occasions, we deserve to complain about this game.

The root of it all, is that it's not what we want to sit through, have to be convinced to buy, or have to consider forgetting about after it's all said and done.

"I//We" didn't buy MKA for them to give us something we don't wanna play with MK8. And then, being fans of the series, have to consider that if we don't buy this one, they won't be able to come with what we wanna play from a later, MK9. Because it's a very real possibility, considering the marketing technique seems to be the same as last time, and the developers and "persons in charge" are the same for the large majority...

That's not how supply and demand works faithfully..It's not how a good manufacturer // client relationship thrives under faithful conditions.

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Alot of people, apparently including Leo here, don't want to have to consider forgetting about MK8's & any salvageable previous story elements, just because they decided to run with a gimmick for MK8. On top of this idea being something that virtually nobody wants to play through for Mk8. And they knew it going in...

Consumers are simple.

"Give me what I want".

Then...

"I can wait for you to make it be good.."

Then...

"If you lie to me, AND sell me a broken product, I'd be a fool to continue to give you my money."

As such, being a fan of a brand can jeopardize that logic and say:

"If I buy this crappy one, you will make the next one good, right? Okay, here's my money."

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So here we are at Mk8, and regardless of being an avid fan of this series, it looks like they're doing it AGAIN.

It looks like, They are yet again, sacrificing fans, for the sake of bringing in fans ( it's a stupid strategy). It looks like, they are using another gimmick to get fans excited again, for another p.o.s. game. AND for the sake of the name of the Game being Mortal Kombat...Which blatantly violates the faith in the name of the brand.

Plainly stated: Traditionally, if you upset your customer base, and give them a product they either don't want, or that is inadequate over and over...you lose your customers base. A large enough amount of fans just have to disagree with the product at one time in that case.

Aheh, and then, with a backdrop of a hint in a promise, "that's not exactly a promise", they lead the fans to believe that the next game will be better somehow.

hm... I wonder what would happen if fans reject the current project?

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Now, before someone jumps the gun, let me take that away from you, and ask myself a question or two:

Q?: Then what am I still doing here? Why do I continue to be a fan of this series?

A: Because I want to be. Because I am eerie, yet still an intrigued fan of the content of this game, AND because there is only one game out there like this one. We'll see what happens after I get my degree though..heheh..

So what do we have in the case of MK vs it's fans?

They're taking advantage of that fact improperly, and for THIS game...especially this game....do not deserve my money. Even though I still stick around, find out what's up with the game, and may even rent, and or buy some used copy of the game later.

1.) I'm not paying them for what I don't want. And I don't care about the DC characters being there. I like DC characters, in fact. But I don't care about the gimmick.

"Pouring syrup on shit and calling it pancakes"....lol Still Shit! The Gimmick // What they're doing I mean.

2. ) I do not want the story they're writing, and I don't want to have to toy with the concept of the thing being cannon or not...A-GAIN. Make a good cannon story, and stop jerking people around already. Especially considering the characters that are involved in this one...I don't want that, cuz it screws up "a" story that was possible had they wrote specifically and exclusively for MK.

They didn't do that, so I don't wanna buy what they are writing. Don't care who the writers are, or how good they are in that case. Cuz I'm not paying them to take me further away from MK. Which is what they are doing.

3. Technically speaking, the game's biggest appeal right now is the gameplay. Looks like they got the animation right this time, so I at least wanna see that...So I'll play it//rent it// or whatever.

But again, how concrete is that for a selling point? How passive is that? Most people aren't looking at the trailer and going: " Wow, look at that gameplay"

Considering the past three games, and last what, 6yrs? It's an aggravated selling point at best, even with these new fighting modes they're talking about.

Which btw, if you're looking at it from an unbiased standpoint either way, "Klose Kombat" looks like the Fight Night games, and this "Falling Kombat" looks like God of Wars falling air battle between Kratos and Icarus.

Put together it looks interesting, but I have no choice NOT to judge it yet, and wait and see what happens. Specifically about the Game-play.

4. Far as the whole T for teen rating thing, it only eliminates the possibility of mature content, that I thought would be a shoe-in for a "Next Gen" Mortal Kombat game. So I'm not as discouraged about that element as I am the other stuff.

However, this also has to do with supply and demand, in it's essence. Because MK's "M" rating is a good chunk of the reason myself, and others buy the game in the first place.

Saying, that if I wanted to play a lesser rated game, with less than mature content, I'd go buy other games. But I don't buy those kinds of games (or many games at all, really)....so it's highly un-likely that I'm going to buy it from MK either. I like the fact that this game was "not for an immature mentality". Adds a prestige

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So anyway, I understand, and I'm upset as well. But that doesn't make me any "less of a fan" just because I'm not going to buy a shitty concept, a gimmick, or potentially good gameplay for better or for worse...MK is not my wife, LilRabbitfoot is. Aheh..

Yes, I'm not a Batman Fan, I am A MK fan, and this game is PURE Marketing, no respect for the gamer. Ed Boon said it himself "The Marketing team said DC was looking to do a fighting game" way to sell out.

I agree with Leo 100%. it was a pretty good post that explains pretty well what a lot of people are thinking.

Allow me to address a few things here. For one, I want to correct myself on the way I worded that what I said the first time around on "MKA and MKD"

MKA IS better then MKD is factually from a gameplay point of view, but if a fan enjoys MKD out of pure favorites, that's their choice but still doesn't change the fact that MKA is a lot more playable. Like I've said before, I play online all the time at high level, I know the gameplay like the back of my hand on just about every MK game but of late especially the 3D MK's.

As for the gimmick, well it's like I already covered in my other thread and didn't get many arguments in that concept. ALL companies at some point do it whether it's a game, console or product, accessory. Hell, even cars do it with "different models" in order to better entice the customer to buy the lastest Model, thus spend more money and make a profit for the seller at the same time...

Fans need to give it a chance, in your case I'd say RENT it first if you're that worried about a game disappointing you and play it safe in your case but at the same time want to bring up the fact that MK isn't the only fighter to put out a disappointing or broken game. SF EX sucked and pissed off many SF fans, SC3 sucked and is arguably known as the worst one yet...now they're bringing in SW characters...that's not a gimmick? ha, ha.....

MVC2 had gimmick written all over it and is mega broken with it's own "air kombat system" so in that concept it's no different then MKA is, plus a little fact in general. Any fighting game that has 50+ characters is going to be broken on some level, but can still be fun and enjoyable as both games are for lots of people.

Even SF II, Tekken, and KI have their it's own brand of issues.

But I would definitely say in your case dude, rent it first if you're that skeptical about giving your money to midway.

On your other thread, I talked about the PS3 as one of your examples only because the others you listed, I didn't know much about. While it's true that many products use gimmicks to up their sales from time to time, you'll also agree that when a product has nothing BUT that gimmick going for it, the consumer is going to be pissed.

This is why I say that from what we have to judge the game on right now, there's nothing to change my mind about opposing it. All that's been revealed is the gimmick itself. Does the gimmick interest me, especially at this stage in the MK timeline? No. Then, obviously, how should I feel about the game overall as of now? Not like it. But should I leave open the possibility that something good might come out of this game so that it won't be just the gimmick? Yes.

"It looks like, They are yet again, sacrificing fans, for the sake of bringing in fans ( it's a stupid strategy). It looks like, they are using another gimmick to get fans excited again, for another p.o.s. game. AND for the sake of the name of the Game being Mortal Kombat...Which blatantly violates the faith in the name of the brand."

Fully agreed. There's one thing we can take from MKA and that's the fact that the MK Team bet too much on the gimmick of every MK character, and went with it so much that they ignored other points of the game. It's no wonder Pred, myself, and so many other fans fear that the same will happen with MKDC; that the MK Team will think just having DC in it is gonna sell a bunch of copies not only to MK fans but to DC fans as well, then not bother making the other areas of the game as strong as they can be.

"I do not want the story they're writing, and I don't want to have to toy with the concept of the thing being cannon or not...A-GAIN. Make a good cannon story, and stop jerking people around already. Especially considering the characters that are involved in this one...I don't want that, cuz it screws up "a" story that was possible had they wrote specifically and exclusively for MK.

They didn't do that, so I don't wanna buy what they are writing. Don't care who the writers are, or how good they are in that case. Cuz I'm not paying them to take me further away from MK. Which is what they are doing."

Yeah, this is why I'm already inclined to condemn the story! Just the fact that it's got DC in it means it will never be what it could've been if it had only MK in it. Again, I'm not saying DC sucks, DC characters suck, or the mere idea of a crossover sucks. I'm saying that all of this coming together NOW takes away from the potential MK had to break into next-gen for itself. I'm starting to really repeat myself a lot, lol, but I feel it needs to be said over and over again in certain cases, 'cuz it's a very valid and pretty much factual point, no matter which side of MKDC you're on.

Thanks for the post, Pred - great follow-up to what we've been saying in the past pages.



Yes, another thing that really bothers me. The Mk Team pretty much went with the route that might get more fans interested in giving them money. I'd expect - or rather, I hoped - that their #1 goal would be to explode MK into the next-gen era by using the franchise's potential to its fulled. Clearly, this wasn't the case.



Thanks for the support.

i think Leo is right in these aspects :
*Ed Boon says that MK8 Will be a NEW Chapter in MK completely fresh...and we find out that practically is an "enhanced" MKA in gameplay (judging the little footage of the trailer)(COME ON!!!! that Freefall kombat is no more than the opportunity to throw a few punches added to the falling sequence of MKD or MKA)
*Also Boon said it will be a darker bloodier and gritier MK.....and how would it will without FATALITIES???
*MK8 is the step of MK into a next gen consoles system...so as Leo said, it would has to be a REALLY SURPRISING Mk, think judging the trailer, is not
*MK8 uses the UNREAL engine !!........the question is WHERE is the Unreal Engine in that TRAILER??????
*MK8, as a new chapter in MK would has to solve the "characters destinies or histories" not be a crossover WITH MAYBE A CANON......A CANON !!!!!!!!!! ...a CANON!!!!!!!...poor history !!!!

I ́m not saying that the game will be BAD ( i espect that at least the gameplay will fun and playable) only that in those aspect...i ́m not too happy.

so, i think MKvsDCU has not to be CANON !!!!! only another fighting crossover game featuring 2 diffrents companies, then the MK team will have to DO a REALLY GOOD MK game !! but as Leo says...i think it ́s debut in the next gen consoles is ruined !!!!

MVC2 had gimmick written all over it and is mega broken with it's own "air kombat system" so in that concept it's no different then MKA is, plus a little fact in general. Any fighting game that has 50+ characters is going to be broken on some level, but can still be fun and enjoyable as both games are for lots of people.

lol

Why do you continue spewing inaccurate information in this thread?

MK:A's infinite combos are not even comparable to MvC2 infinite combos so there is no same concept. Besides, MvC2 has been played for almost a decade competitively while MK:A... you get the idea.

MvC2 is broken, indeed, but it is an extremely deep game, in part, due to its glitches. The glitches, themselves, however, require practice and skill to perform because they are frame sensitive. MK:A's regular aerial cancels combos can be performed by anyone who is not under 10.

...And not for nothing but a casual or average MK fan isn't going to know this stuff as much as an online player that plays online constantly....there's flaws in Tekken, SF, SC too...every game has their own brand of problems.

True. A casual fan will not know but these fans do not play Mortal Kombat for its fighting anyway. People, such as yourself and I, do, however, so we know what is going on.

Again, I have told you many times - Tekken 5: DR's, Street Fighter: 3rd Strike's, Virtua Fighter: 5's, etc. "flaws" can never be compared to MK:A's flaws. You try to make connections that are not there. Your connections are non-existant. You will eventually have to understand something - Boon does NOT test his games so it does not matter what he adds. If he does not test them, they will not end up being good games. The reason UMK:3 is the best MK game ever is because it is an "updated" version of MK:3. It is an improved version. It is a tested version. What is so hard to understand about this concept?

MKF said: You tried to say something about me that wasn't true in some weird reverse point...,

No. I was proving a point. That’s why I said you wouldn’t like it. You misunderstood it.

secondly...ok on the flame factor, tell ya what you don't flame, insult and I won't? But you can't say I didn't have any reason to when I'm trying to debate with you and you just decided to flame me straight out, thus I have reason to get annoyed.

That was because you, apparently, misunderstood the first thing I said up there and went all psycho-assassin with me despite me saying I agreed with you. That was your fault.

If I made a mistake, then so did you because all I'm doing is posting my opinion. If it's different then someone elses it is, if not, it's not. Simple as that. We all make mistakes in life, you, me everyone...the joy of being human.

I agree.

And honestly I'm not getting upset about people disagreeing with me per-se, but rather the fact of people shitting on a product or judging something before they've even played it or before it's even out is just ridiculous.

Ok, but why do you care *this* much? You will be buying the game, wont you? They will almost just as surely buy it as well after they hear its great (or laugh/cry at Midway for ruining MK). You shouldn’t get THAT upset, and it does look you get angry with people for disagreeing with you because you keep *demanding* people to explain, and if they do, its not logical or coherent enough for you.

Its *your* happiness with the games that should matter to you. If you like it and have fun, and the rest of the world doesnt, great for you! Lucky you enjoyed it, didnt waste any money and still have fun with it. Someone might not like it, but that wont ruin my happiness for the game.

I'll try to have a good day, thanks same to you.

Cool.

lol, why do you continue to be in denial about other fighting games being broken? lol I'm not making that up, you're telling me as a fighting fan you don't know that MVC is broken? wow...ok, ask Malone if you don't believe me. He'll tell ya

It's like I said in the other thread man, a flaw is a flaw. lol you're trying to like justify "my flaw isn't as bad as yours" as some kind of comparison. I understand different games have worse then others but still, my ultimate point is no fighting game is perfect in the sense of "no glitches" no "flaws" yet if you're still a fan of it, you'll at some point come to accept it and play anyway just like the MVC fans and KI fans. I don't see a MVC 3 out right now do you? And let's face it KI is beyond dead....

You're right MKA and MKD have a lot of flaws, but that's not to say "every MK game" like a lot of ignorants assume on here...like I said chances are they never played the 2D games like MK2 and UMK3 that are among the best 2D fighters out there.. It's like I said before, Boon and Midway DO test their games but given the time limit Midway gives them, they can't test them properly, they need to lay off the MK team and testers they hire with the "deadline" like other games do. If it's not right, they delay it. It seems Midway is afraid to do that, that's not Boon's fault or the MK teams you must realize. I didn't misunderstand you, just disagreed that's all. I think you misunderstood me but whatever in how you took that...it was what it was. lol, I didn't go all psycho assassin on you lol. You disagreed with me, you didn't like it and decided to straight out flame me...I was waiting for a point on your end, instead of got "flaming" so I flamed back. I'll admit, I shouldn't have flamed you but would hope in the future you don't flame me either. All I ask. I agree with you on the mistake bit I don't care that much or "demand" explanations, however when I see something ignorant on here such as "DC's not dark" by some MK fan that knows nothing of DC I will say something, it's like my thread on this game and the fans. It's well said and I'm specific as possible as to what I mean because a few people are misunderstanding my "tone" it's not because someone disagrees with me, that's fine...and like you said I couldn't care less if someone wants to sell all their MK shit online because MK8 isn't what "they expected" because I'll still buy the game anyway. Or I'm saying is that people that are judging this on DC's end, should know what they're talking about first and as for the game itself....play it or rent it first then judge it. Give it a chance, that's all I'm saying to those people. Try to be optimistic. That's my point. So, in that aspect it's not illogical for me to disagree with someones view if they're basing their view off false information. Understand what I'm saying? And I'm not referring to the "skeptical" or concerned MK/DC fans, that's fine I'm referring to the "judging a book by it's cover" people or the people that don't know anything about DC's universe and why MK's would make sense in a few ways. Later

lol, why do you continue to be in denial about other fighting games being broken? lol I'm not making that up, you're telling me as a fighting fan you don't know that MVC is broken? wow...ok, ask Malone if you don't believe me. He'll tell ya

Did you read my post entire post? You quoted it yourself so I would certainly hope so. Here is how the second paragraph started:

MvC2 is broken, indeed....

It's like I said in the other thread man, a flaw is a flaw. lol you're trying to like justify "my flaw isn't as bad as yours" as some kind of comparison. I understand different games have worse then others but still, my ultimate point is no fighting game is perfect in the sense of "no glitches" no "flaws" yet if you're still a fan of it, you'll at some point come to accept it and play anyway just like the MVC fans and KI fans. I don't see a MVC 3 out right now do you? And let's face it KI is beyond dead....

Exactly. That is how we happen to change the quality of fighting games. The less flaws it has, the better it is. The more flaws it has, the worse it is. Hence, we can conclude that a game like Street Fighter: 3rd Strike is better than MK:A because its flaws are at a minimum compared to a game like MK:A. Besides that, I have never claimed that a game is perfect. Why you continue bringing that up is beyond me. I am just arguing that the less flaws a game has, the better it is. That is something most clear-thinking people tend to agree with.

You're right MKA and MKD have a lot of flaws, but that's not to say "every MK game" like a lot of ignorants assume on here...like I said chances are they never played the 2D games like MK2 and UMK3 that are among the best 2D fighters out there.. It's like I said before, Boon and Midway DO test their games but given the time limit Midway gives them, they can't test them properly, they need to lay off the MK team and testers they hire with the "deadline" like other games do. If it's not right, they delay it. It seems Midway is afraid to do that, that's not Boon's fault or the MK teams you must realize.

I agree with half of this post. MK:2 and UMK:3 are good games. Actually, they are far superior games compared to the 3D Mortal Kombat games.

As far as Boon and company is concerned, they need to ask Midway for more time. It is our responsibility as costomers to ask for a better product if we do not like what is being done. I refuse to worship Boon or Namco or any other person or company if they continue making mediocre games. I will attack them aggressively.

It is their job to test and give us good quality games. How they achieve that goal is up to them. That is exactly why we buy their games, expecting good products.

You know what really looks cool? that you can fight as your FALLING OFF THE CLIFF!!

I think thats awesome, but hopefully they'll make batman an upper tier player or he'll be completely broken.

I think that Superman should Sindels floating ability, and Hsu Hao's Wind Clap.

I think Wonder-Woman should have Jerek's little whip/tenticle thing to fling people around.

I think the Green Hornet should wear Jade's costume.

I think Jokers melee weapon should be a crowbar.

I think Batman should have an alternate costume with nipples on it.

I think Batgirl should be annoying

I think Quan Chi and Rhaz Al Ghul should team up.

I think I think I think I think!

...man...&^$* Midway and BOON for taking a risk...you may call it a gimmick, but its a risk.

I AM a fan of MK, and for those of you who might ask me how devoted I am, fuck you, I am a fan for my reasons alone, and I'll say this. The game, what I've seen so far, looks promising, forget the fact that it's DC, i bet some of you would be bitching either way if it was new characters. bitch bitch BITCH!


This might not have an awesome story, but remember Shaolin Monks? Last time I checked, it had done pretty good for itself, and that story was fucked up beyond reason when it comes to continuity.

For everyone who's outright appalled at this idea...Just relax..I'm sure you'll get your end all be all MK game that will explain everything and have Jesus as the mini-boss and God as the final boss and Satan as a SU sometime on this gen. of systems. This game doesn't nessecarily mean that your fan-fic you wrote is wasted...

I'll play the game..you know why? cause it looks fun. Simple as that...the reason we all (should) play games in the first place....becuase they are fun...

What the hell, lol.