Ah gotcha.

The puppet-master storyline wasn't getting anywhere to begin with! It had its good laughs... enough for me to enjoy the movie. I could totally go for an MK vs DC movie, canon or not, serious or not... it'll surely beat the hell out of that last crap movie we had. I could use a few good laughs anyways

I guess my fear now is they'll try and MAKE it canon, or at least bits and pieces of it. Remember how Midway kept tip-toeing around the idea of Shaolin Monk's continuity issues and a few even said it was "re-imagining" MK2 and that it was "canon"? They did an about-face after too many glaring plot holes sprang up.

I mean, even if this game IS non-canon, like I hope, why the hell would you make Raiden and Shao Kahn brothers? It makes no sense what-so-ever. It's completely out of left field, has never had any build-up or groundwork leading towards this revelation, and, you'd think after 8 or so games Raiden might mention at some point that they guy he's fighting against is, oh yeah, his brother...

I guess it bothers me more than some because, c'mon, MK's strength used to be its STORY, which was admirably better than any other fighter's out there. Now it's become a sequence of retcons, non-canon debacles, retcons, incredibly lame endings, retcons, poor character development, and most of all retcons.

I am starting to care less about the gameplay. I'd trade great gameplay and a poor storyline for mediocre gameplay and a great storyline. Though I wish I could have both for once...

I wish we could have it both ways too, but Im the gameplay side of the fence. Hopefully the next MK game can amp up the narrative quality and deliver a kick ass fighting experience.

Somewhere along the way, between umpteen revenge plots, the MK team must have forgot their own story. Can't blame them, they don't really give a shit like the fan's do. Well, actually I can blame them. This is ass, even if it's not cannon.

I hope that for the next MK game, they really do wipe the slate clean, because the MK history is collapsing under it's own weight. I was always one to say that MK had better plots than the other fighting games, but MK SM (though the best MK game ever), and MKA sure turned that one around. MK's plot is sure to continue fucking with us in the future.

Part of me has died with this news.. great sadness

Midway is handling the Mk continuity as putty.

First they rewamp Raiden from an ambivalent self-centered god of lightning into the 10000000th great cosmic master and wise councellor to the heroes.
Raiden did not give a rat's ass about mortals in the beginning.

Second Kano gets rewritten from being raised in Japan (Hence the name Kano) to an Australian (name tolerable due to proximity) because of an actor that played third class roles (JAG).

Worth mentioning that about the time of MK3 the loopholes start, and utter convolution begins to form.

Scorpion's honor gets shat over because Boon would want him to keep the "though guy" attitude and give a reason why Scorpion would ever want to be in the next MK. Avenged his death, yay. Why stay if he is already dead? MK4 then fucks this up completely when paired with DA.

Johnny Cage "nevar" died. That, and his horrendrous MK4 appearance. The movies assrape the plot (Sub-Zero and Scorpion are forming Shang Tsung's elite GOONSQUAD, the Cage-Sonya and Kang-Kitana romance established because the US movie/gaming culture needs meaningless romance subplots, Chan who?...Lambert making an utter asshole out of Raiden by haing him spurt useless quasi-philosophical rhetorics...Goro and Cage having a rivalry because of a nutgrinder punch...)

Annihilation, we know. And then MK:SM which they are treating like a replacement true story for MK2. NO, I do not care what others here think, as they have 0.00 relevance in the matter. Midway is the one who decides the canon, the best people here do is denial, which is as futile as laughing on a clown car set on fire while trying to put the flames off.

I regret to follow MK after MK2. This entire allforsaken franchise is heading for the drain, pair that with the Midway MK staff's affinity to borrow from pop culture and their talentlesness.

The MK franchise became irrelevant.

And yet you're still here, as though you have nothing better to do with your free time than waste it talking about things you don't like.

That does not make sense.

1023541 on Pi time people come up with this question. Ever heard about the people who are here? More or less they constitute the reason why i bother to come here.

Plus the IRC is usually fun to read.

Plus the entertainment value of some of the juvenile idiots who revel in their own pretentiousness: the amount of professional trolls (not the hideously deformed creatures living under a bridge-handing out business cards while wearing a suit types sadly) here is seal enough to guarantee entertainment.

Plus seeing Midway grind itself into oblivion with continuous failing. MKO is fun indeed.

Also, some people are capable of multitasking alongside their computers. So my time is not wasted in tantamous amounts.

Wow, Chrome.

What an excellent way to sum up why MKO is a bad place for actual Mortal Kombat fans to come to if they want to have positive or constructive discussions about the series they love.

It's like...an anti-advertisement. Bad publicity on purpose. I don't know if I've ever seen that before.

I've already expressed my opinions on the current state of the MK franchise, but it bears repeating. While I am still very disappointed in nearly every aspect of MK that I onced loved (realism, visuals, violence, story, characters), the franchise still has so much potential, as well as a great (and not so great) history. I've learned, after the past four games, to temper my expectations, but that doesn't mean I still don't hope the MK team will one day release a Mortal Kombat game that shames the other franchises in its dark and deep storyline and characters, it's smooth yet brutal gameplay, and its dynamic, serious presentation.

Until then, I'll justifiably complain about cheesy comic book crossovers, massive character retcons, awkward visuals, goofy character dialogue, and stiff and repetative combat.

Why? Because I want it changed. I don't want to sound like I'm complaining, but, hell, I am complaining, because those are justified complaints.

BUT MK is still revelant to me because, after all, the next MK might fulfill its promise and really "start fresh" with everything. Hopefully. Maybe. Not likely. But possibly. And I want to see if my once favorite fighting game franchise will fulfill its fantastic and fatality-fueled future promises.

Sad thing I saw it when it was not always so. Sad thing is I already saw worse than this.

For one thing, it's VERY cliché. We ALREADY have enough sibling rivalries (Sub-Zero vs. Noob Saibot, Taven vs. Daegon, Kitana vs. Mileena). As someone already brought up, you would think that Raiden would let the heroes know that Shao Kahn is his brother. And considering what apparently goes on in one scene with Quan Chi's conversation with Shao Kahn, it may be possible that Shinnok is retconned to being his father.

Bottom line is that this sort of thing has been done before and does nothing to improve either of their stories.



XiahouDun84 wasn't implying that Scorpion was ever a "good guy" in the first place. Even though the three of us (you, me, and X) don't want Shaolin Monks to be canon, chances are it is. In MKA, not only is Scorpion against the Elder Gods, but he wants to kill Taven.



*sighs and shakes head* I can only hope the bit about Shao Kahn and Raiden being brothers is only part of this non-canon story and not actually made into the canon. Then again, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they did just that. Whose bright idea was it to make them brothers in this game in the first place?

I really, really hope you're right about that; their statements seemed to reflect that it was.

Not like it matters much anyway; the fanbase pretty much decided MKSM wasn't canon until Ed said "Yeah, just look at it as a what-if story." or something to that extent. The true canon-masters are the fans.

I think whoever it was that wrote the story assumed that elements from the movies were canon, and yoinked that tidbit. Oy vey.

MK vs. DC has been confirmed non-canon. Boon only made the between MK2/MK3 reference saying if it had to be placed somewhere in the continuity it would probably be there.

But it does still beg the question of why they would decide to throw that bit about Raiden and Shao Kahn in there.


It just doesn't pay to be a Mortal Kombat fan....

Maybe, (now I'm clutching at straws here so you can forgive me) they threw in that element to Raiden's and Shao Kahn's character because it's a typical comic book style plot twist. Perhaps if MK ever returns to following a sequenced storyline, it'll be forgotten.

I hereby promote any initiative to abandon the current Mortal Kombat cast of characters and story.

Start from scratch Midway. Absolutely no ties to the previous saga. 0, nil, nada, except perhaps a handful of references... or choose to bury the name further and eventually kill yourselves.

Personally I do think that the Sibling rivalry should be limited to Kitana/Mileena and Taven/Daegon.



Sibling rivalry has gotten really really stupid when it started with SubZero/Noob Saibot because it is being cliche' within Mortal Kombat and Luke I am your father moment is getting really stale for me. So Noob Saibot as MK1 Sub Zero is kinda lame for me since I am a big Star Wars fan and a Knights of Old Republic fan(yes Kotor is star wars too and it is one of the best parts and the first game has that Luke I am your father moment)



So I don't like the idea of Raiden and Shao Kahn being brothers, I don't even like the idea of Raiden and Fujin being brother.

Well Fujin was INTRODUCED as Raiden's brother, so it's not a Star Wars-style twist.

i know. I do think you can be a god while not being related to another god.


There are 6 billion humans, so I do assume there are many gods and many families of the gods.


if there is a new comming in the future MK, that god don't have to be related to Shinnok, Rayden or Fujin.

Yes, that's why it works.

I'm starting to agree.

Kitana's been effectively buried by the MK team. God only knows how horribly they'll sink Sareena. And Quan Chi is held down by Scorpion.
And at this point those three are the only characters I still hold any genuine attachment to anymore....nevermind the countless other fuck-ups and wasted potential in the rest of the cast & story.



Pull the plug and start over.

blah! THIS SUCKS! hes right it says it!

Mortal Kombat was created in six days! So too, shall it be destroyed!

And it! Is! Glorious!
*yaaaaah*

This is surprising. Not quite as surprising as the MK team thinking Jax was more popular/iconic than Reptile... but still surprising.

I can't say I'm deeply offended by the sibling revision, since I'm not fond of either Kahn or Raiden these days, though I'll agree with the previous users that this has scary implications regarding how relevant Boon considers MK:Annihilations.

And seriously, this is why having Fight Night BEFORE the game is released makes little sense. Little details like these can be tended to. But enough of that.

As Garlador said, even if this isn't canon, making the characters brothers isn't a smart story move, and as XiahouDun84 stated, this makes little sense considering what we already know about Raiden.

But I'm past the point of caring. This game could have really exploited the time ambiguity, but they opted otherwise. Hell, if we were ever going to see Human Smoke revamped in 3D, now would have been the time.