Whats so bad about MKA?
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posted01/17/2007 02:01 AM (UTC)by
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Okay this thread might of been said before i looked for it and couldnt find it

Now why do peopel think MKA sux.Most of the comments that i hear are utter bullshit.So this is your chance to try to convince me but i warn i will not hesitate to shoot you down!sleep
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12/27/2006 01:47 AM (UTC)
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TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
What's so bad about MKA?

The beginning , middle and end.

We're done here.
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12/27/2006 01:51 AM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
What's so bad about MKA?

The beginning , middle and end.

We're done here.


I concur.
tgrant Wrote:
TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
What's so bad about MKA?

The beginning , middle and end.

We're done here.

O taking the halfass answer out well unless you point out something specific your comment doesn't count
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12/27/2006 01:55 AM (UTC)
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1. Kreate-a-Fighter
2. Moloch, Onaga, Blaze
3. No Bios, although this isn't so bad because Midway is going to release them now.
4. Kreate-a-Fatality
5. From what I hear, there's far more lag and scrubs online than there was on MKD. The competition is dying. Some other people and myself have been working hard to save what we can of MKA, by staying in the No KAK room.
1.I dont know what you mean by this elaborate
2.I dont know what you mean by this elaborate
3.You admitted that you disagree with this comment
4.I personally like this because i could never do preivous fatalities but i think that they should of made the finishers(ie the o button)character specific but this is not a major probelem once you learn how to use it.
5.Considering you are only saying what you hear you do not have proof to back it up,and this is not the game's falt it is the players
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prodigy004
12/27/2006 02:10 AM (UTC)
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I dont think any 1 here wants or cares about convincing you. But since u asked a question ill give you my answer.

To me MKA is bad becuz-Lack of secrets and hidden stuff
-Online gameplay is terrible
-Story and endings r HORIBBLE
-Arenas and fighters repeat like crazy in arcade
-Some of the arenas u unlcock never show up
-KAK could have been better
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12/27/2006 02:14 AM (UTC)
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prodigy004 Wrote:
I dont think any 1 here wants or cares about convincing you.


Exactly.

The Whole Overall Game just seemed rushed to me. (KAK, KAF, Endings and Storyline, etc.)
prodigy004 Wrote:
I dont think any 1 here wants or cares about convincing you. But since u asked a question ill give you my answer.

To me MKA is bad becuz-Lack of secrets and hidden stuff
-Online gameplay is terrible
-Story and endings r HORIBBLE
-Arenas and fighters repeat like crazy in arcade
-Some of the arenas u unlcock never show up
-KAK could have been better

1.(i know i say it a lot but its true)Please elaborate(and if you dont like playing online then go play with your friends)
2.I admit to this but since bios are coming out and if they are all as good as Kenshi's then we will have no problem.But i admit that the endings are bad
3.I guess you just play to much because with the exception of the ladder with kabal as the sub-sub-boss none of my towers have repeated(and i play arcade qutie a bit)
4.You are aware that you can choose the arena,right?
5.(yeah i know)elaborate


Well people we have my first agreement the endings are bad
but sadly that one reason alone is not enough to make this a bad game
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12/27/2006 02:16 AM (UTC)
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The KAK is so bad because people can make extremely cheap characters. They put the best special moves and really high % combos, and just make them better then all other characters. It can be really cheap versing them online and people rack up wins for their records with them - it is really unfair.

With Onaga, Moloch and Blaze, they are the three characters considered God Tier, not only Top Tier. This means that most of the time, it is impossible to defeat them because they are so broken. Like they have heaps of strong moves, cant be thrown, cant use air kombat against them etc. For example, Moloch has an infinite combo done just by pressing 1, 1, Up + 3, then repeating it over and over. They are just really cheap characters to use.

With the bios, well they should have been in the game. Same with alt bios and endings. These are things that we have come to expect from MK games, and now we dont have them. They are trying to compensate with these online bios, and though it is better then nothing, they still should have been included in the actual game.

With Kreate A Fatality, well, I personally like that one. I thought the other fatalities got boring after seeing them twice, but KAF doesnt. Just my opinion. Many others think that it is breaking the tradition that was the original fatality, and that these generic fatalities get boring and were a lame excuse to not do any work. Big characters like Moloch even sink into the floor when doing them.

With the online stuff, I cant really comment as I dont have online, but I have heard that the lag is horrible. That topped with the extremely cheap KAK's there makes the online experience quite... bad.
class="forumQuote">prodigy004 Wrote:
I dont think any 1 here wants or cares about convincing you.

o no no no you are not trying to convince me why it is such a bad game the point of this is because im tired of people saying this is a bad game and never elaborating so now im striking back giving people a chance to say why and hopefully by the end of this we'll find out if MKA is really bad or if people are just confimining and were expecting too much.
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12/27/2006 02:21 AM (UTC)
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TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
prodigy004 Wrote:
I dont think any 1 here wants or cares about convincing you. But since u asked a question ill give you my answer.

To me MKA is bad becuz-Lack of secrets and hidden stuff
-Online gameplay is terrible
-Story and endings r HORIBBLE
-Arenas and fighters repeat like crazy in arcade
-Some of the arenas u unlcock never show up
-KAK could have been better

1.(i know i say it a lot but its true)Please elaborate(and if you dont like playing online then go play with your friends)
2.I admit to this but since bios are coming out and if they are all as good as Kenshi's then we will have no problem.But i admit that the endings are bad
3.I guess you just play to much because with the exception of the ladder with kabal as the sub-sub-boss none of my towers have repeated(and i play arcade qutie a bit)
4.You are aware that you can choose the arena,right?
5.(yeah i know)elaborate


Well people we have my first agreement the endings are bad
but sadly that one reason alone is not enough to make this a bad game
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Lol,Well WTF do u wanna hear???!!!! This is pretty dumb, y ask for others oppnions if u already have you own and your just going to disagree with every 1???

Im well aware that you can change arenas, only in VERSUS not arcade and I was only talking about arcade.
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12/27/2006 02:22 AM (UTC)
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I can't speak for the gameplay or anything online, as I don't play online and I don't play at a very advanced level, but it's fairly obvious to me why people are disappointed:

-Kreate a Fighter: Much more limited than I expected, in terms of appearance options, fighting style and weapon style setup, and available special moves.
-Kreate a Fatality: Complete lack of any character specific moves. Gets old fast.
-Storyline: This is the big one. I don't know what they were thinking in this area; they told us MKA would be the end of this generation of MK, and would tie up all the loose ends. It tied up jack shit. They didn't even give us any bios, for fuck sake. Granted, they'll be releasing them through the website, but the mere fact that they decided not to put them in the game itself is unforgivable. There is absolutely nothing to tell us who lives and who dies. Even the opening FMV, being non-canon, is a bit of a slap in the face. Compare it to MKD's intro, in which we find out exactly how MKDA ended: the Deadly Alliance defeated the Earth warriors and Raiden, then Quan Chi defeated Shang Tsung, then Onaga came in and ruined all their shit. MKA's intro tells us absolutely nothing; in fact, the only thing we learn in Konquest regarding the outcome is that apparently Shao Kahn is in charge of Outworld again. The whole thing just comes across as unbelievably half-assed.
matthewhaddad Wrote:
The KAK is so bad because people can make extremely cheap characters. They put the best special moves and really high % combos, and just make them better then all other characters. It can be really cheap versing them online and people rack up wins for their records with them - it is really unfair.

With Onaga, Moloch and Blaze, they are the three characters considered God Tier, not only Top Tier. This means that most of the time, it is impossible to defeat them because they are so broken. Like they have heaps of strong moves, cant be thrown, cant use air kombat against them etc. For example, Moloch has an infinite combo done just by pressing 1, 1, Up + 3, then repeating it over and over. They are just really cheap characters to use.

With the bios, well they should have been in the game. Same with alt bios and endings. These are things that we have come to expect from MK games, and now we dont have them. They are trying to compensate with these online bios, and though it is better then nothing, they still should have been included in the actual game.

With Kreate A Fatality, well, I personally like that one. I thought the other fatalities got boring after seeing them twice, but KAF doesnt. Just my opinion. Many others think that it is breaking the tradition that was the original fatality, and that these generic fatalities get boring and were a lame excuse to not do any work. Big characters like Moloch even sink into the floor when doing them.

With the online stuff, I cant really comment as I dont have online, but I have heard that the lag is horrible. That topped with the extremely cheap KAK's there makes the online experience quite... bad.

1.I have fought kaks of all type(TheUberNinja keeps changing his)and i believe if you are a good enough player you will be able to defeat them.
2.They really had no choice these characters were just too hard to weaken with out severely changing them that is why tournaments,me,and my friends have banned the use of them(unless they are competing against each other,god is that fun)
3.We have already talked about this comment.
4.you admitted to disagreeing with this comment
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prodigy004 Wrote:
TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
prodigy004 Wrote:
I dont think any 1 here wants or cares about convincing you. But since u asked a question ill give you my answer.

To me MKA is bad becuz-Lack of secrets and hidden stuff
-Online gameplay is terrible
-Story and endings r HORIBBLE
-Arenas and fighters repeat like crazy in arcade
-Some of the arenas u unlcock never show up
-KAK could have been better

1.(i know i say it a lot but its true)Please elaborate(and if you dont like playing online then go play with your friends)
2.I admit to this but since bios are coming out and if they are all as good as Kenshi's then we will have no problem.But i admit that the endings are bad
3.I guess you just play to much because with the exception of the ladder with kabal as the sub-sub-boss none of my towers have repeated(and i play arcade qutie a bit)
4.You are aware that you can choose the arena,right?
5.(yeah i know)elaborate


Well people we have my first agreement the endings are bad
but sadly that one reason alone is not enough to make this a bad game
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Lol,Well WTF do u wanna hear???!!!! This is pretty dumb, y ask for others oppnions if u already have you own and your just going to disagree with every 1???

Im well aware that you can change arenas, only in VERSUS not arcade and I was only talking about arcade.

O no my friend im not using opinion im using facts.as for the arcade areanas thing i agree with that but come on it is really nto that big of flaw do you really care about the areana that much?
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12/27/2006 02:30 AM (UTC)
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TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
prodigy004 Wrote:
TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
prodigy004 Wrote:
I dont think any 1 here wants or cares about convincing you. But since u asked a question ill give you my answer.

To me MKA is bad becuz-Lack of secrets and hidden stuff
-Online gameplay is terrible
-Story and endings r HORIBBLE
-Arenas and fighters repeat like crazy in arcade
-Some of the arenas u unlcock never show up
-KAK could have been better

1.(i know i say it a lot but its true)Please elaborate(and if you dont like playing online then go play with your friends)
2.I admit to this but since bios are coming out and if they are all as good as Kenshi's then we will have no problem.But i admit that the endings are bad
3.I guess you just play to much because with the exception of the ladder with kabal as the sub-sub-boss none of my towers have repeated(and i play arcade qutie a bit)
4.You are aware that you can choose the arena,right?
5.(yeah i know)elaborate


Well people we have my first agreement the endings are bad
but sadly that one reason alone is not enough to make this a bad game
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Lol,Well WTF do u wanna hear???!!!! This is pretty dumb, y ask for others oppnions if u already have you own and your just going to disagree with every 1???

Im well aware that you can change arenas, only in VERSUS not arcade and I was only talking about arcade.

O no my friend im not using opinion im using facts.as for the arcade areanas thing i agree with that but come on it is really nto that big of flaw do you really care about the areana that much?


What facts??? I do care about the arenas cause why would they make all these other arenas if you only keep on going to the same 1. Thats just not rite. To me it is a flaw becuz the MK team r always dicking around. its the principal.
XcarnageX Wrote:
I can't speak for the gameplay or anything online, as I don't play online and I don't play at a very advanced level, but it's fairly obvious to me why people are disappointed:

-Kreate a Fighter: Much more limited than I expected, in terms of appearance options, fighting style and weapon style setup, and available special moves.
-Kreate a Fatality: Complete lack of any character specific moves. Gets old fast.
-Storyline: This is the big one. I don't know what they were thinking in this area; they told us MKA would be the end of this generation of MK, and would tie up all the loose ends. It tied up jack shit. They didn't even give us any bios, for fuck sake. Granted, they'll be releasing them through the website, but the mere fact that they decided not to put them in the game itself is unforgivable. There is absolutely nothing to tell us who lives and who dies. Even the opening FMV, being non-canon, is a bit of a slap in the face. Compare it to MKD's intro, in which we find out exactly how MKDA ended: the Deadly Alliance defeated the Earth warriors and Raiden, then Quan Chi defeated Shang Tsung, then Onaga came in and ruined all their shit. MKA's intro tells us absolutely nothing; in fact, the only thing we learn in Konquest regarding the outcome is that apparently Shao Kahn is in charge of Outworld again. The whole thing just comes across as unbelievably half-assed.

1.Kreate-a-fighter i very very unlimitted you can make nearly infinite combinations you are probably just nto experienced in it.
2.There are too many varying opinions on it i am banning it as a reason
3.The bios are coming,the reason they were not in the game was because the crowd was rushing them and there was not enoguh memory.The FMV ending is canon as shown in Konquest the only reason people think it is non-canon is because Cinder is too unspecific.Konquest was not supposed too explain what happend in between MKD and MKA it was just supposed too explain MKA and it did just that.
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prodigy004 Wrote:
TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
prodigy004 Wrote:
TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
prodigy004 Wrote:
I dont think any 1 here wants or cares about convincing you. But since u asked a question ill give you my answer.

To me MKA is bad becuz-Lack of secrets and hidden stuff
-Online gameplay is terrible
-Story and endings r HORIBBLE
-Arenas and fighters repeat like crazy in arcade
-Some of the arenas u unlcock never show up
-KAK could have been better

1.(i know i say it a lot but its true)Please elaborate(and if you dont like playing online then go play with your friends)
2.I admit to this but since bios are coming out and if they are all as good as Kenshi's then we will have no problem.But i admit that the endings are bad
3.I guess you just play to much because with the exception of the ladder with kabal as the sub-sub-boss none of my towers have repeated(and i play arcade qutie a bit)
4.You are aware that you can choose the arena,right?
5.(yeah i know)elaborate


Well people we have my first agreement the endings are bad
but sadly that one reason alone is not enough to make this a bad game
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Lol,Well WTF do u wanna hear???!!!! This is pretty dumb, y ask for others oppnions if u already have you own and your just going to disagree with every 1???

Im well aware that you can change arenas, only in VERSUS not arcade and I was only talking about arcade.

O no my friend im not using opinion im using facts.as for the arcade areanas thing i agree with that but come on it is really nto that big of flaw do you really care about the areana that much?


What facts??? I do care about the arenas cause why would they make all these other arenas if you only keep on going to the same 1. Thats just not rite. To me it is a flaw becuz the MK team r always dicking around. its the principal.

They made them all so you could use them in versus not aracade
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12/27/2006 02:33 AM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
What's so bad about MKA?

The beginning , middle and end.

We're done here.


Lol, That's really truthful though. The introduction to the game is criticly flawed.

The story. "How did this start?"-- Just now we're getting the explainations for that.

The body of the game is criticly flawed.

All the "modes" and all...why not just consetrate on the heart of the game? Couple side missions//modes, maybe. Within the modes are flawed even though I feel gameplay mechanics got better.

The endings are criticly flawed.

Tgrants' right here..... So I concur too.

I think it's still a fun game, just rushed and incomplete as all hell. Haha!
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12/27/2006 02:33 AM (UTC)
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How do u kno
ThePredator151 Wrote:
tgrant Wrote:
TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
What's so bad about MKA?

The beginning , middle and end.

We're done here.


Lol, That's really truthful though. The introduction to the game is criticly flawed.

The story. "How did this start?"-- Just now we're getting the explainations for that.

The body of the game is criticly flawed.

All the "modes" and all...why not just consetrate on the heart of the game? Couple side missions//modes, maybe. Within the modes are flawed even though I feel gameplay mechanics got better.

The endings are criticly flawed.

Tgrants' right here..... So I concur too.

I think it's still a fun game, just rushed and incomplete as all hell. Haha!

1.The point is we're getting the stroy eventually i am willing to wait
2.how is the body flawed
3.They kind of dug themselves into this hole if they didnt put in the modes the players would say"hey why is there so few modes"
4.I already admitted to the endings being flawed
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How do u kno

Its assumed by logic
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12/27/2006 02:42 AM (UTC)
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Well I thought u were only speaking facts???
prodigy004 Wrote:
Well I thought u were only speaking facts???

an assumption if made by logic can be just as good as a fact
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12/27/2006 02:46 AM (UTC)
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TheMightyMeatLord Wrote:
prodigy004 Wrote:
Well I thought u were only speaking facts???

an assumption if made by logic can be just as good as a fact


Its either its fact or not. No assumptions.
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