Why is it so hard for some people to give the 3D era characters a chance?
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Why is it so hard for some people to give the 3D era characters a chance?
12/09/2014 06:20 PM EST
I mean sure there are characters like Darrius, Kobra, Meat, Mokap, Jarek, Moloch, and Hsu Hao who are awful and should never ever return.

But, Characters like Li Mei, Bo Rai Cho, Reiko, Tanya, Shinnok, Fujin, Frost, Hotaru, Havik, Khameleon, Sareena, and Ashrah have tons of potential.

Why are people not willing to give them a chance? There were original trilogy characters that were considered bland and forgettable such as Jade. And some were hated such as Stryker, Sheeva, and Rain. MK9 managed to make them cool. The same CAN be done for the above characters.

What do you guys think? Im just confused why some people are so against them.

Characters like Kai, Nitara, Drahmin, Mavado, Daegon, Taven, Kira, Chameleon and Dairou could go either way. They dont have as much potential in my opinion, but are not terrible like the first characters i mentioned.
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12/09/2014 06:30 PM EST
Because most people didn't grow up with them... but your assumption is wrong, a lot of 3D era characters have a pretty strong fan base.

To my knowledge the most popular are:

Shinnok
Quan Chi
Bo Rai Cho
Kenshi
Fujin
Mavado
Drahmin
Hotaru
Ashrah
Havik
Li Mei
Tanya

The lame-ass 3D characters might be the ones you are referring to:

Shujinko
Darrius
Dairou
Kobra
Kira
Mokap
Taven
Daegon
Jarek
Hsu Hao
Blaze

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12/09/2014 06:33 PM EST
Didn't work for Drahmin. And Its hard to believe for Mavado tbh.
Where is Li Mei on ur list lol.
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12/09/2014 06:35 PM EST
You'd be surprised how many here actually like Drahmin. He was not a horrible character at all.
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12/09/2014 06:45 PM EST
Icebaby Wrote:
You'd be surprised how many here actually like Drahmin. He was not a horrible character at all.


True.

If his design was changed to fit the "tormentor" role, he would be great.


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12/09/2014 06:48 PM EST
I actually really like Drahmin. Of all the new characters in MKDA he was my favorite. Would have loved to see him return in MKX but alas... The fact that I am a sucker for Samurai gear might also play a role
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12/09/2014 07:07 PM EST
I didnt mind Drahmin at all. I wish they would have made him creepier instead of disgusting though.

There are a few people who love Kobra and Meat on this other fourm i visit. Its crazy. THey actually think they will be in MKX.
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12/09/2014 07:09 PM EST
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Because most people didn't grow up with them... but your assumption is wrong, a lot of 3D era characters have a pretty strong fan base.

To my knowledge the most popular are:

Shinnok
Quan Chi
Bo Rai Cho
Kenshi
Fujin
Mavado
Drahmin
Hotaru
Ashrah
Havik
Li Mei
Tanya

The lame-ass 3D characters might be the ones you are referring to:

Shujinko
Darrius
Dairou
Kobra
Kira
Mokap
Taven
Daegon
Jarek
Hsu Hao
Blaze


Dairou and the brothers (especially Daegon) can still be saved.
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12/09/2014 07:14 PM EST
I think Kira could be saved too.
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12/09/2014 07:19 PM EST
My favorites out of the bunch but maybe I will add a few more to the list. Edited:
1.Taven
2.Daegon
3.Nitara
4.Fujin
5.Bo Rai Cho
6.Li Mei
7.Ashrah
8.Sareena
9.Frost
10.Havik 11.Tanya 12.Kira 13.Shinnok 14.Hotaru 15.Shujinko (Done)grin
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12/09/2014 07:28 PM EST
Daegon is eons better than Taven.
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12/09/2014 07:41 PM EST
Icebaby Wrote:
You'd be surprised how many here actually like Drahmin. He was not a horrible character at all.


The guy was awesome!


blacksaibot Wrote:
Because most people didn't grow up with them...


Most of the MK Universe grew up with them. Even if they didn't, they still probably played the games and enjoyed them or didn't.


The lame-ass 3D characters might be the ones you are referring to:
Shujinko


I took Shujinko because he does have potential and I liked him. Even though he had an array of mixed specials from other characters, doesn't make him lame. I hope he comes back and become the main boss. grin
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12/09/2014 08:17 PM EST
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blacksaibot Wrote:
Because most people didn't grow up with them...

Most of the MK Universe grew up with them. Even if they didn't, they still probably played the games and enjoyed them or didn't.


I meant most FANS didn't grow up with them. I am referring to the poster-boy type characters from MK1, MK2, and MK3 that most FANS grew up with and learned to love BEFORE they were introduced to MKMSZ/MK4.


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The lame-ass 3D characters might be the ones you are referring to:
Shujinko

I took Shujinko because he does have potential and I liked him. Even though he had an array of mixed specials from other characters, doesn't make him lame. I hope he comes back and become the main boss. grin


Why are you assuming that his mixed special moves is the ONLY reason I call him lame? It's one of MANY reasons. His design (as in looks) is unique, yes. I'd like to see him redone and not made to be such a blind doofus-fuck of a tool bag.... with his own moves and better voice acting.

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12/09/2014 08:37 PM EST
I really like Drahmin design and and backstory: "The ONI-Tormentor", sounds awesome.
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12/09/2014 11:23 PM EST
You answered your own question in the OP by ruling out some of the 3d Era characters based on your opinions...

..It is completely subjective.

Personally, I could do with out any of the 3d Era characters. (Excluding story based characters like Shinnok and fujin)

This is based on the fact that I want the MK9 REBOOT to be an actual reboot and take a new direction with the franchise. I think midway was poison for the franchise. Terrible. Now they have substantial financial backing and can do great things with the franchise.

In with the new, out with the old.

That being said, i think NRS is smart to bring their core foundation (MK1-3) and pave a new road.
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12/10/2014 12:37 AM EST
I've been a Drahmin fan since Deadly Alliance came out. Most underrated character in the series. I think people are biased against him because he wears a speedo and throws flies. That's something a joke character would do. Turn his flies into something intimidating like locusts or something and make his alternate mummy costume his primary. His backstory is great, his mask is awesome, and his club is really cool. It would really be a shame if he never got another shot.
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12/10/2014 12:41 AM EST
Icebaby Wrote:
You'd be surprised how many here actually like Drahmin. He was not a horrible character at all.


The hatred Boon seemingly has for the character surprises me. They worked wonders with the likes of Stryker for MK9, they could easily do the same for Drahmin if he ever got a shot.
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12/10/2014 01:46 AM EST
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Icebaby Wrote:
You'd be surprised how many here actually like Drahmin. He was not a horrible character at all.


The hatred Boon seemingly has for the character surprises me. They worked wonders with the likes of Stryker for MK9, they could easily do the same for Drahmin if he ever got a shot.


I think some of the distaste he's been showing towards the character comes from the hurdles in programing him because of his asymmetric design... I remember comments about that, not sure where tho...They could always give him dual clubs to ease things, but that would end up looking like a cop out like 2-legged Motaro was...

I always liked his design especially the mask, and wish they would have expanded on him. The new Killer Instinct character, KanRa, Is something I could imagine his design cloud have evolved into.

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12/10/2014 01:53 AM EST
I kinda feel like D'Vorah replaced Drahmin.
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12/10/2014 02:29 AM EST
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I kinda feel like D'Vorah replaced Drahmin.


In what way are those 2 similar?
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12/10/2014 02:39 AM EST
They both have bug based moves.
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12/10/2014 03:21 AM EST
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They both have bug based moves.


I would hardly call Drahmin's Ball-o-flies projectile the center of his move set.

D'Vorah's entire move set is based abound insects.


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12/10/2014 03:51 AM EST
Some of those 3D dudes really do suck the bored life out of your soul when you play as them, like Taven, Ashrah, Kobra, Li Mei, and Hsu Hao.

We need to focuse in the BEST ones.

#1.) Shinnok - he needs more powerful attacks. He a god.

2.) Quan Chi - meh, he's always a BEAST!

3.) Kenshi - great unpredictable attacks!

4.) Blaze - As a former boss. He should pose as some sort of serious threat. 5.) Onaga - His combos should be 50% damage with just 3 hits. For a boss that can't be killed by 3 powerful mfs, he should be a beast!
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12/10/2014 04:30 AM EST
Because alot of them sucked, honestly. Personally, I'm still waiting on them to re-write a few of the 3-D guys/gals.

Shinnok - looks like they're working on him now. He was/is a real sore spot.
Quan Chi - I'm happy he's been getting good treatment since MK9.
Bo Rai Cho - hate him. make him more like the t.v. shows Master Cho or, get him out of there.
Kenshi - Only absolute awesome character of the bunch. Still excellent.
Fujin - Needs it BAD. The concept of his character is good but, they didn't dig in with him. I want it.
Mavado - ew
Drahmin - ew
Hotaru - Came to like him but he needs alot more.
Ashrah - grey area
Havik - I like him but he needs alot more work
Li Mei - ew
Tanya - never liked her but I understand. she needs work.
Shujinko - I liked him in the beginning and I still like him. but I understand why people wouldn't. I'd reintroduce him...he'd be good now because we'd understand what the hell he's doing.
Darrius - ew
Dairou - ew
Kobra - EW
Kira - EW
Mokap - EW
Taven - He didn't bother me that much but ultimately, I hated him.
Daegon - Hated him too
Jarek - dafuq?! ew
Hsu Hao - ew ew
Blaze - No

That's what I think. But, I will say that given enough attention and unique individuality, any of them can be made spectacular.
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12/10/2014 04:57 AM EST
Kenshi and Quan Chi are amazing characters.
Shinnok and Havik are pretty good as well