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11/23/2008 07:37 PM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
Nope. Give me DC please.

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DC > Marvel

It's a fact.


Thank you ^ lol finally someone that agrees with me in this topic lol

As for the killing, Shingo's right. DC has killed PLENTY over the years if you do research on DC's history.

I also would make a bet that say just for the heck of it, if Marvel were to crossover with MK. They would also put "boundries" on their characters.

You think Marvel would seriously let Subby rip out Spider-Mans spine? I don't think so....

And lastly, if you compare MK vs. DC VS. MVC....despite both having the T rating, MK vs. DC got away with a lot for a T rated game and is a hell of a lot darker then MVC.(aside from one looking photorealistic and the other like an anime cartoon...)


I agree, DC is a thousand times better than Marvel.
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11/23/2008 07:56 PM (UTC)
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GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
Nope. Give me DC please.

SubMan799 Wrote:
DC > Marvel

It's a fact.


Thank you ^ lol finally someone that agrees with me in this topic lol

As for the killing, Shingo's right. DC has killed PLENTY over the years if you do research on DC's history.

I also would make a bet that say just for the heck of it, if Marvel were to crossover with MK. They would also put "boundries" on their characters.

You think Marvel would seriously let Subby rip out Spider-Mans spine? I don't think so....

And lastly, if you compare MK vs. DC VS. MVC....despite both having the T rating, MK vs. DC got away with a lot for a T rated game and is a hell of a lot darker then MVC.(aside from one looking photorealistic and the other like an anime cartoon...)


I agree, DC is a thousand times better than Marvel.


Indeed, DC actually grew up with their audience.
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11/23/2008 10:52 PM (UTC)
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Lol dude I was the same way when I was younger I thought marvel was the shit. Then the clone wars saga happened with spider-man saying that peter parker was the clone the whole time and ben riley was the real spider-man I was like wtf. Then all the good artist left and started image comics, and the stories at marvel started getting repetitive like the x-men story so I decided to read a few dc comics and been hooked every since so yes I am a Dc fanboy lol
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11/24/2008 02:47 AM (UTC)
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i would love it if they had mk vs marvelsmile
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mkflegend
11/25/2008 01:08 AM (UTC)
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Nathan Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
And as a result, MvC has no replay value. Nothing to unlock but alt palettes, no story mode to play through, nothing to DO. If you want a mindless, cartoony 2D fighter with no storyline, these days you can just download Mugen and build your own damn roster.

Real video games should ALWAYS have a storyline, even if's not deep at all, or outright sucks, because at least it gives you a few extra seconds or minutes of entertainment in between the repetitive act of fighting, and something like a reward, even a small one, when you finally win.


No replay value? What? The great gameplay alone guarantees the replay value. I don't need a story that explains to me how the worlds came together. To me, it seems Capcom treated the games like past Marvel/DC crossovers. Acting as if the characters would already co-exist in the first place.

I already got days out of replay value from Capcom games. Simply because they are fun to play. A tacked on story wouldn't have added much. I'm not saying that I don't ever want a coherent story, but I also won't scream bloody, f***ing, murder if they don't include one.

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Yet, people seem(well some not all) to bitch about MK crossing over with DC....yet not Marvel vs. Capcom? lol not saying you, just in general on here the past 9 months or so.

I don't know, if anything to me anyway Hulk vs. Chun Li is way more mismatched then Raiden taking on Superman.


Probably because MK and SF seem to attract two completely different crowds. With MK you get a lot, not all are like that, immature blood and gore fanatics. Anything that doesn't give them their precious blood is plain evil. Or they think that MK is so mature, that it couldn't possibly mix with a comic franchise like DC. Everyone who thinks it's mature, must clearly have missed MK2.


That's only some MK fans, there are tons that care about the actual important elements such as gameplay and story(in cases like this, unlike MVC which didn't explain anything) I'd like to at least know how both universes merged or crossed over. Wouldn't you?

And MK2 is very dark and mature(especially for it's time) MK2? That's not a good MK game to use with that, if anything use MK: D and MK A since they looked more cartoony(even the MK team admitted this)

Mick, lol as always making the witty comments. I'll keep the Superman/Raiden as a solid point though, thanks. At least there, there is an actual match up.

Oracle, yeah. Just not posting a lot, but here and there wherever a thread catches my attention.
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
Nope. Give me DC please.

SubMan799 Wrote:
DC > Marvel

It's a fact.


Thank you ^ lol finally someone that agrees with me in this topic lol

As for the killing, Shingo's right. DC has killed PLENTY over the years if you do research on DC's history.

I also would make a bet that say just for the heck of it, if Marvel were to crossover with MK. They would also put "boundries" on their characters.

You think Marvel would seriously let Subby rip out Spider-Mans spine? I don't think so....

And lastly, if you compare MK vs. DC VS. MVC....despite both having the T rating, MK vs. DC got away with a lot for a T rated game and is a hell of a lot darker then MVC.(aside from one looking photorealistic and the other like an anime cartoon...)


I agree, DC is a thousand times better than Marvel.


Indeed, DC actually grew up with their audience.
Glad to see some more people that are familiar with DC and agree that their characters for the most part are more original then Marvel's. With DC, I've always liked the fact that everyone is "different" or comes from a different world, that have to work together. Where Marvel seems like a bunch of generic groups that seem to appeal more to the common teen more then the "anyone crowd" I feel here honeslty DC scores higher with groups such as the Justice League. For reasons like this, I can't help but to laugh at times when you see some say "DC's heroes are so "perfect" lol. Really? Superman is so perfect? Batman is so perfect?....I totally agree with you guys.
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11/25/2008 02:07 AM (UTC)
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heres another reason why dc is more adult than marvel when was the last time you saw batman on a v-motion game or dancing to nursery rhymes
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11/25/2008 03:14 AM (UTC)
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h1tm0nl33 Wrote:
heres another reason why dc is more adult than marvel when was the last time you saw batman on a v-motion game or dancing to nursery rhymes
never. but it was funny to see him sing karaoke.
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11/25/2008 03:29 AM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
Mick, lol as always making the witty comments. I'll keep the Superman/Raiden as a solid point though, thanks. At least there, there is an actual match up.

... Like Captain America/Guile, or Wolverine/Ryu?
Picking deliberately (or just stupid) inconsistent examples isn't a good argument.

h1tm0nl33 Wrote:
heres another reason why dc is more adult than marvel when was the last time you saw batman on a v-motion game or dancing to nursery rhymes

Yeah, is that a great line to go down?...
Kinda forgetting about the sixties, non?



There's almost always an answer both ways.
You probably can find even Batman doing something comparable. He's in those stupid plug-and-play math games.

The strength is in the source material where the opportunity for art is a little more lenient than the money making exercises.
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11/25/2008 03:33 AM (UTC)
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Wait, are you stating that the 60s comics have any relevance in this thread? WTF?

Marvel DEFINITELY has that stupid teen angst vibe to it.
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11/25/2008 04:26 AM (UTC)
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Wait, are you stating that the 60s comics have any relevance in this thread? WTF?

A) Why wouldn't they (to some degree)?
B) No, I wasn't...
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11/25/2008 07:29 AM (UTC)
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Mostly because comics today are nothing like it was back then, with the comics code as it was.
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11/25/2008 07:32 PM (UTC)
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I think the idea was good of mk vs dc it is an excellent game. the only bad thing is that there are some charracter that should've been in the game An is , , , or , i think there was some good matchups but there were some charracters that were not on the game that would be contrast and create a great match ups but this is a good game the only problem was getting the popular charracters and find a way to contrast them

example of a good match up

The Flash vs Kabal because kabal could actually give a fight to the fastest men alive the flash


Green lanter vs Ermac both have similar power they both contrast each other pretty well

or fujin vs red tornado the god of wind fighting red tornado wind and tornado will clash


Deadshot vs striker both are gunners users a hire killer deadshot with the best aim in the dc universe against the officer striker who also is good with guns

Nightwolf vs green arrow the battle of high tech arrows against spirit arros


Cyborg vs Cyrax both a really good example of match ups

Killer crock vs reptile the battle of the reptiles which species of reptile would rain supreme



Now marvels charracter the adventage of marvel charracters is that there a bunch of charracters that do kill guys like Punisher, wolvorine they kill and they also have a mk contrast charracters which means more fatality and less heroic brutality but here are some good match ups

The punisher vs Striker

Raiden vs Thor

Wolvorine vs Baraka

Drahmin vs toad

noob saiboot vs dead pool

Cable vs Jax

Fujin vs Storm

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11/25/2008 07:59 PM (UTC)
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You forget the most awesome match up.

Scorpion Vs Ghost Rider

Scorpion: A vengeful Spirit from hell, uses fire, removing his mask reveals a skull (which was even on fire in Deadly Alliance) uses a spear to catch his enemies.

Ghost Rider: The spirit of Vengeance from hell, can use fire, burning skull as a signature trait (his entire body is nothing but bones), uses a chain in various ways.
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11/25/2008 08:20 PM (UTC)
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Nathan Wrote:
You forget the most awesome match up.

Scorpion Vs Ghost Rider

Scorpion: A vengeful Spirit from hell, uses fire, removing his mask reveals a skull (which was even on fire in Deadly Alliance) uses a spear to catch his enemies.

Ghost Rider: The spirit of Vengeance from hell, can use fire, burning skull as a signature trait (his entire body is nothing but bones), uses a chain in various ways.


I can't tell if this meant to be sarcastic. The only fight that would occur between those two is a lawsuit tongue
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11/25/2008 08:38 PM (UTC)
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Ghost Rider would win a suit since he came first..
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11/25/2008 08:55 PM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
Mick, lol as always making the witty comments. I'll keep the Superman/Raiden as a solid point though, thanks. At least there, there is an actual match up.

... Like Captain America/Guile, or Wolverine/Ryu?
Picking deliberately (or just stupid) inconsistent examples isn't a good argument.

h1tm0nl33 Wrote:
heres another reason why dc is more adult than marvel when was the last time you saw batman on a v-motion game or dancing to nursery rhymes

Yeah, is that a great line to go down?...
Kinda forgetting about the sixties, non?



There's almost always an answer both ways.
You probably can find even Batman doing something comparable. He's in those stupid plug-and-play math games.

The strength is in the source material where the opportunity for art is a little more lenient than the money making exercises.


Are you even aware of Raiden and Superman's powers? And why they're a good example as oppose to Hulk vs. Chun-Li or your Guile vs. Captain America?

It's a not a stupid example, Raiden is a god and Superman might as well be a god(he's not but come on he's Superman)

Superman was killed in the fight against DD, then came back....Raiden obliterated himself then came back....both have died and came back.
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11/25/2008 11:45 PM (UTC)
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Why not have both? This day and age anything's possible. DC and Marvel are not so different as some here would believe and have even crossed over with each other, multiple times.

Some matches are destined (Raiden vs Thor, Ermac & Noob vs Venom & Carnage, Lizard vs. Reptile), but if there's a story mode you could do some real interesting back-to-back battles.. such as Baraka vs Wolverine, or Magneto "controlling" Baraka with his magnetisim or Raiden in turn "demagnetizing" Magneto. I'd say there's surely potential.

I'd say it'd definitely turn out better than Marvel vs Capcom, and hopefully just as good (if not better) than the awesomeness that is MK vs DCU. Of course, if there's no story mode, then don't bother.
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11/26/2008 01:08 AM (UTC)
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]{0MBAT Wrote:
Some matches are destined (Raiden vs Thor, Ermac & Noob vs Venom & Carnage, Lizard vs. Reptile)


Aren't those a little too obvious? Sometimes it can be cool seeing similar characters fight one another, but when they're that obvious it kinda makes you roll your eyes and groan. That's why MK/DC seems to work better, because you have characters who would square off nicely against each other without being TOO MUCH like each other.


Also people here shouldn't neglect the fact that what has more potential than either DC or Marvel is a completely renewed, purely MK story. Fans around here have shown that the MK universe has the potential to be a friggen masterpiece, and given the right amount creativity and effort from the MK Team this is what I would MUCH rather have
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11/29/2008 02:15 AM (UTC)
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MK vs KI please

Marvel Vs Capcom 3 please
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11/29/2008 03:39 AM (UTC)
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^^^^ Both of those!

MK vs KI, come one, that has to be the best to vs MK hands down...plus the violence would flow.
Honestly though, at the end of the day, I just want an MK game
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11/29/2008 12:38 PM (UTC)
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DC is way better than Marvel because of one main reason; they have Batman, Superman and The Joker

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11/29/2008 05:32 PM (UTC)
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Marvel has characters that just seem to match up better to MK IMHO. I would have an easier time believing that Sub-Zero would have more of a problem fighting someone like Wolverine than fucking Batman.
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11/29/2008 08:37 PM (UTC)
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To be honest, I would have preferred MK bye itself.

If I was given a choice between MK Vs. DC and MK Vs. Marvel, I would probably have chosen Marvel, but more in line with the urban vigilante characters. Daredevil, Moon Knight, Punisher, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Luke Cage, Elektra, White Tiger, Wolverine, and Spider-Man.

I have nothing against DC, this game is great, I like the occasional DC series (Green Lantern, Grant Morrison's Batman, whatever) but in general I've always preferred Marvel, I find it alot easier to actually give a damn about what happens to the character. I don't care if character x came before character y, I just get real tired of reading the same Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman stories over and over again. It's the same reason I got turned off of Cosmic Marvel back in the 90's with the same Thanos/Adam Warlock stories over and over again, but Nova and Annihilation fixed that.
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11/30/2008 11:44 AM (UTC)
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im way more for marvel

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11/30/2008 01:36 PM (UTC)
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You know I dont really care !
Because MK VS DCU proved to me that the MK team can deal with anything and put the right people in the right position .

So Marvel or DC or anyother franchise , The MK Team is for the job .
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