Exactly there hasnt realy been any real changes made to tekken beyond a graphical standpoint, alot of the combos are exacly the same in Tekken 5 as they were in Tekken 3.

If it ain't broke don't fix it is not to be taken literally.
It means that the system is already good, and doesn't need major additions to make it good.
The Tekken games do change every installment, because no game is perfect. Not even VF4.
It's more tweaking / fine tuning the engine than reinventing, because they don't need too reinvent it.
There's a very big difference between T2 and T5. And the skills required to play the game well, are also very different, because of all the new options.
In T5, you now have
side step
side walk
A ton of different moves
Different animations for old moves
different properties
the juggle abilities are different
a lot more characters
A combination of Finite and Infinite stages
stage interaction
Universal low parry
Tec. roll
Tec. recovery
side step attacks
reversal counter
Faster combat pace
Unique throw escape animations
Buffering
Air throws
Different jump style
You have a lot more back facing options now
Side throws, back throws ( I don't remember if T2 had these )
Little things, make a big difference.
There's a lot more to learn and do in T5.
Of course if you just play against the computer on a normal difficulty setting, it's going to be easy to beat. The AI in Tekken games is not that great.
The same goes when playing someone else that's not very good at the game.
Try to bring a character to “TekkenLord” in Arcade mode.
That's still not nearly the skill required to beat a good player.
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From T3 to T5 the changes are
side step properties are different
side walk
A ton of different moves
Different animations for old moves
different properties
the juggle abilities are different
a lot more characters
A combination of Finite and Infinite stages
stage interaction
Universal low parry
Tec. recovery = spring back up, or roll back when you fall.
Faster combat pace
Unique throw escape animations
Buffering, I think buffering has been upgraded
Air throws

I didn't contradict myself as I'm not Alpha_Q_Up.
Who can you beat with your Tekken 2 skills?
What's with your obsession about how many new characters are introduced into a fresh game of a series?

ALRIGHT!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!! I dont agree with digital assasin.... but everyone GET OFF HIS CASE!!!! he made an opinion so deal with it... just state ur opinion and leave. dont call him names or criticise him.
("SZ24")

The fact that people still defend Ed Boon and Mortal Kombat is laughable.
The engine sucks and this cannot be denied unless you DON'T PLAY THE GAME COMPETETIVELY. 99% of you do not, so I can understand why you believe the system is fine..kinda.
Ed boon is about as clueless as Alicia Sylverstone. I really hope MKA isn't too much of a mess, and that it will still be a blast to play like MKD was even when the engine was retarded.

Lol. Comparing T3 to T5 is like comparing SFII to 3rd Strike.

Thats another thing.
ROTFLMAO @ people who think T3,T4 and T5 are just the same game with more characters. They all are so different from each other outside of the basics it's not even funny. Anyone who says this should be banned from this web site.
That's like saying MK1 and MK3 are basically the same thing with just better graphics and more characters.

go get a life dickhead suck my ball and dont shit about others fuktard dont make me give u the skull

Grow up.....

who me? fyi i m talking to digital

^ I hope this is a joke account.

I think the topic creator has also lost all respect for grammar and the english language.

lets get off the subject for a min...
lmao..wat is this english101?? man u guys r fuckin annoyin... i bet yall r mad cuz yall think im "bashing" mk..i mean jeez is it really gonna hurt u if i dont type proper??...its not like im typin to a teacher...im typin to ppl across da net over a dam video game...stop takin this so seriously...Look to make you bitches happy, I’ll type proper just once. there u happy now?? yes? GOOD now FUCK U ..lol...okok enough of dat lil kid shit...back to da topic...like my man said before games such as tekken already have a good fighting system...they hardly need any major adjustments...see i love martial arts in general so as long as the the game stays true to real martial arts as much as it can...ill love it...n sadly i dont get dat feeling from mk anymore...in its 2d days yea cuz it was the most advance thing at da time.....but now fighing games r so much more deep then just an upper cut , sweep, or round house kick..now adays u need counters.. reversals...etc....when im playin tekken or vf i really do feel like im watchin a kung fu movie...n for dat feeling alone is why i buy certain fighting games...ed is an expert at 2d fighting games but in da 3d world hes still a newbie...thats y i got pissed off when i read his comment...his ego is geting to him...instead of talkin shit i think he should learn from other fighters n take notes then come back wit sum orginal ideas other games never had...(not including mini games...we dont need those shits!!)

Dude, what's wrong MK3, UMK 3 and MK:DA?
Ok, MK:DA wasn't perfect but no game is and it was better then Deception in SOME areas not all.
MK 3 and UMK 3 were great games man.Can't get much better then those from a 2d standpoint.

Um...welcome to online message boards.

While it's true that no game is perfect, there is such a thing as quality standards.
And what was wrong with the last 2 games? Quality of the fighting mechanics was below standard.
For a list of reasons, go to the TTT game play thread link in my sig.

OK now I know you're BSing. Tekken 5 has changed sooooooooooo much since Tekken 2. Everyones move list has quadrupled since Tekken 2, and there are tons more combos and juggles to do in T5. That just shows me you're probably played Tekken 5 once and never even gave it a chance.

YO YO HOMIE chek it out dis yo opinionz on da game. but insultin the muthafukin ed boon won't do anything. G-G-G-G-G UNNNNIT

WTF? Haha, tekken isn't designed to use jumping mechanics in the first place. Kind of like how MK isn't designd to be a decent, logical, non-broken fighter.
For the record, T5 is still a sloppy joe. Some whacky shit goes on in that game. "sigh" i really wish VF or GG were popular in the states....bunch of MvC and SC tools....
Edit: Man, where are all these people coming from!!! It just doesn't stop!!!

You know nothing, it doesn't matter what I say on this site, no one is going to believe anything as long as I have a different opinion as everyone else. I bought Tekken 5 when it came out, I picked my favorite fighter Paul Phoenix and beat the game on normal in one go, I used all the same combo's and a few juggles that were new to me.
Lei wu Long, same deal, beat the game on normal in one go. So how do you want me to proove that i'm not lying, I know, come on over here and pop in the game, i'll show you. I'll bet I can still do it, since I played these games for quite a while. I'll bet that would shut you up once and for all on this matter

HAHAHAHA....the computer.....

Be fair. It's the ultimate test of ability.

You’re joking right.............?
Beating the computer on normal is nothing.
Play the game on ultra hard at least.
You need to try something that takes a little bit of skill, maybe get a few characters to TekkenLord on the Arcade mode.
The AI won't get too tough till you get to TekkenLord status, and even then it's not that hard.
That's one of the weak parts of Tekken 5.
The computer's AI is not that smart, it can't even do decent juggles.....
Basically, the computer doesn't compare to how tough it can be to beat a human player.
One that knows how to play the game well.
I can see why you have that mind set though.
I used to think I was pretty good before, playing the computer on ultra hard. But once I started going to the arcades, it's totally different.
I had to learn all kinds of strategies to be able to compete, and even then it's tough.
I'm pretty good now, not great but I win like 90% of the time at the arcade. Still, some people are almost unbeatable.
I'm most comfortable with the ultra hard setting on the PS2.
It takes a lot of skill to play the game well, I guess more than you can imagine at this point.
So, like I said before...
Play the game on the hardest setting, and get some characters to Tekken Lord rank in Arcade mode.
That's the closest you can get to a human on the PS2 against the computer.

Ok, then tell me what combos and juggles you do with Paul and Lei that were in Tekken 2 that you use on Tekken 5 to beat the CPU.