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05/22/2009 06:23 PM (UTC)
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That's a bad thing. that means MK vs DC 2. That means we're fucked.


THE END IS NIGH HOLY SHIT RUN

This is probably one of the best things that could happen to Midway.
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05/22/2009 07:56 PM (UTC)
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I posted this on Ed Boon's twitter page:

"kingjolly87:I hear Warner Bros is going to have a bigger role with Midway. I hope this doesn't mean more T-rated MK games. I need blood & gore."

Ed Boon's reply

"noobde:Kingjolly87 when u say you "hear". How is that possible? I think someone is just speculating & that's what you heard."


Pretty ambiguous answer, but I think Ed is implying mk9 will still be M-rated.
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05/22/2009 10:09 PM (UTC)
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That's awesome KJ.

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*Everyone*:

What most people don't seem to be identifying with, is the fact that there are more than just the "WB persona" to consider. There are a multitude of companies hanging from the WB tree. Warner Bros Interactive is the Video game company.

Warner Bros Interactive @ wiki has a good list of games to view.

F.E.A.R. 2, Watchmen: The End is Nigh, and Condemned being on the list, and with what looks to be MK soon, it seems like WB is expanding the M rated arsenal of IPs. So, don't worry so much about blood and gore..ect. I'm not. I think I'm more concerned with the WB's patience for allowing the MkTeam to make MK games, and how the effects of WB's resourcefulness will effect future games.

Now, I don't like the idea of another MKvsDC game either, but Midway being taken over by WB is a good thing. Great thing, potentially fantastic! lol Doesn't mean we're guaranteed to see another game like that happen though.

I think we'd be more likely to see the DCvsMarvel crossover finally happen with the different MK studios under the WB umbrella.

But look at the WB+MK like this:

:1: Time Warner is on top,
:2: then Warner Bros is underneath that,
:3: then Warner Bros Interactive underneath that,
:4: then Midway might be under them,
:5: then the Mortal Kombat studios that produce Mortal Kombat.

Warner Bros Entertainment Interactive (WBEI), might just take the games that Midway is responsible for though, so it could end up looking like this:

:1: Time Warner is on top,
:2: then Warner Bros is underneath that,
:3: then Warner Bros Interactive underneath that,
:4: then the Mortal Kombat studios that produce Mortal Kombat.

We have to wait and see what happens in the courts, with the bid that WB has put on the table and what other companies might put on the table, and how the next game comes out.

*snail*
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But with all that said, again, I'm not worried about the blood and gore. Rather, I'm happy to see that there will be a next game. I really still only have the typical fan concerns.

a.) I hope the next game works great mechanically for the theme they want to accomplish with it. The newest mechanic I liked was MKvsDC's, but I would appreciate something newer, and more inventive than that one. No distractions, just newer, more inventive so long as it plays to the MK brand.

b.) I hope it has fantastic story and fantasy elements. I hope they spend a lot of time crafting this stuff cuz it's a large reason why I pay MK any attention. A well written, mature, and thoughtful story element that is presented as organically as a video game is capable. And a fantasy element that isn't hinged on stereotypes, but that takes advantage of some of them because of what the MK brand, and some of its characters are about.

c.) and I hope it's the scariest, high adrenaline game they've made so far. I hope it's scary as hell, to tell you the truth. The scarier it is, the more serious it can be. The more serious it is, the more intense the fighting will be.

d.) Lastly, I hope they give us far more control over immersing ourselves into the MK world. From stuff like the online experience, to the mere addition of the created character feature. These things need to be utilized far better than they have in the past. Letting us become as much a part of a, b, and c as reasonably possible is key in modern gaming.
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05/23/2009 01:28 AM (UTC)
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I think this is perfect news. MK would find a nice home over at WBIE.

Believe me WB wants MK for two reasons:

1) To continue the MKvs.DCU franchise. It sold very well and crossover fighting games are all the rage.

and most importantly...

2) To make new MK games. Yes, they will be violent and M rated don't worry. WB seems obsessed with picking up the franchise; so I see no reason why they'd go out of their way to get it only to water it down.
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05/23/2009 07:16 AM (UTC)
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lol

I think I can hear the sound of fanboys wanking under the desk


"boon.... MK.... warner brothers... DC.... OH GOD!"


*spurt*
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05/23/2009 03:47 PM (UTC)
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I don't see how people think this is good.

From all the complaints I hear from my friends and others at my school and other schools, WB completely drove MK vs DC through the ground, ruining the Mortal Kombat franchise.

It seems that no one asked for this. From all of what I've witnessed, people wanted 15-20 characters remaining from Armageddon in MK8 and 10-12 new characters. Why couldn't they have done that? Why can't they just give us what we ask for, instead of trying to experiment?

I don't know the view points of every person in the world, but I do know that a lot of people were, are, and will be pissed. Warner Bros. may have the money, but they don't have the guts.
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05/23/2009 04:53 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
From all the complaints I hear from my friends and others at my school and other schools, WB completely drove MK vs DC through the ground, ruining the Mortal Kombat franchise.

Strange people those must be. The only thing WB did was restrict the violence a bit but only because DC heroes were featured. Oh and the fighting engine was certainly the best since MK4!

I think this is good news by the way tongue
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05/24/2009 12:27 AM (UTC)
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I don't see how people think this is good.

From all the complaints I hear from my friends and others at my school and other schools, WB completely drove MK vs DC through the ground, ruining the Mortal Kombat franchise.

It seems that no one asked for this. From all of what I've witnessed, people wanted 15-20 characters remaining from Armageddon in MK8 and 10-12 new characters. Why couldn't they have done that? Why can't they just give us what we ask for, instead of trying to experiment?

I don't know the view points of every person in the world, but I do know that a lot of people were, are, and will be pissed. Warner Bros. may have the money, but they don't have the guts.


First: Schools isn't the best place to recopilate info about a Gore +18 games saga :-p xDDD

Second: Warner Bros didn't ruined ANYTHING. If you think that MK vs DCU isn't a good MK, well, the fault is for Midway to propose it, and MKTeam to accepted.

Third: ¿No guts? More bullshit. WB made games like Condemneds, F.E.A.Rs and Watchmen game. I think that WB has more (gore) nuts than MK Team in recent times...

If you have enough age to play MK, please act like a mature man, not as a crybaby who thinks that because play a mature games is da man
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05/24/2009 12:44 AM (UTC)
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This is good news considering Midway can hardly produce anything of any merit these days.
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05/24/2009 02:14 AM (UTC)
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I think this is great news, and MK vs DCU was the best MK's been in a long time in terms of gameplay, and the best in terms of graphics. Whining about gore is a moot point.

Why the game had to have lesser violence, I have no idea. MK allows violence, WB allows violence, DC has had 3 times more violence than MK the past 5 years.

But, with WB, they would have the budget and time they deserve. Plus, we could finally get some good comics for the series.
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05/24/2009 11:20 PM (UTC)
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NOOOO!!!!!! MIDWAY DONT ACCEPT!!!!!!!! THEY WILL RUIN MK!!!!!!!!!!!
if they accept, it's no longer gorey mk,it's kindergarton mk with scorpion and sub-zero in thongs and tights.
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05/24/2009 11:26 PM (UTC)
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...it's kindergarton mk with scorpion and sub-zero in thongs and tights.




Oops.
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05/25/2009 01:24 AM (UTC)
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Everything should be fine no mather who owns the rights of MK. There is one important thing and this thing, or rather man is Ed Boon. Now my question is. If WB gets it's hands on MK. Will they keep Boon as the MK team leader? If they will then MK has future. If they don't have Boon then MK is doomed.
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05/25/2009 11:22 AM (UTC)
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[SUB-ZERO Wrote:
Everything should be fine no mather who owns the rights of MK. There is one important thing and this thing, or rather man is Ed Boon. Now my question is. If WB gets it's hands on MK. Will they keep Boon as the MK team leader? If they will then MK has future. If they don't have Boon then MK is doomed.

The article specifically says that the Chicago studios are included in the deal. Now why would WB want Chicago? Hmm
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05/25/2009 02:13 PM (UTC)
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[SUB-ZERO Wrote:
Everything should be fine no mather who owns the rights of MK. There is one important thing and this thing, or rather man is Ed Boon. Now my question is. If WB gets it's hands on MK. Will they keep Boon as the MK team leader? If they will then MK has future. If they don't have Boon then MK is doomed.



LOL, do you watch any of Ed Boon's interviews? What has that man done for MK that any 10 year old couldn't do? Honestly do you think the world is that lacking in programmers, because that's what Boon is, a programmer. And if you ever take a look at any other fighting game on the market, many of them have programming that is far, far superior to MK. MK's heart lies in its design decisions, and those went to hell when John Tobias left. MK now is a mere shadow of its former self, run by immature men who have no idea what quality art is.

Now if WB would be smart and make it worth John's while for him to come back and maybe hire some actual professionals who have some idea what good entertainment is, then I would be extremely happy.

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt here. Who knows, we might see a resurrection on the level of what just happened with Star Trek.
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05/25/2009 05:12 PM (UTC)
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Vogel is better than Tobias, but Tobias had more power decision, so Vogel is more fucked by Boon decisions. We need another MKDA, but with better gameplay, and more respect to the initial game (not a classical continuism like fighting games in general, but c'mon, only 6 fighters from MKDA? Maybe MKDA will work with less classics and more new characters, but not his sequel, his secuel needs something like MKDA, 50/50, not the formula of MKDeception. And, of course, we don't need a Armageddon (or Trilogy) anymore...)
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05/25/2009 06:19 PM (UTC)
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What has that man done for MK that any 10 year old couldn't do?


Uh...program a Mortal Kombat game...? He also helped keep the only successful US fighting game franchise alive and kicking. *cough* Studio Gigante *cough*

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K's heart lies in its design decisions, and those went to hell when John Tobias left. MK now is a mere shadow of its former self, run by immature men who have no idea what quality art is.


As for quality art. wasn't Tobias responsible for Nightwolf's silly design? If I'm not mistaken, he was also responsible for the copy/paste artwork that was used in promos, where most male characters were the same drawing, save for color and outfits. They all even had the same poses...but at least Tobias gave Jax and the robo-ninjas a new head.



Also, it's quite funny that all the silly "alities" went away after Tobias left, so to say that MK is only now immature is quite odd.

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Now if WB would be smart and make it worth John's while for him to come back and maybe hire some actual professionals who have some idea what good entertainment is, then I would be extremely happy.


That's an amazing insult to many of the people who've been working on MK from the get-go. Maybe they should just let Tobias do it by himself, huh? After all, you make it sound like he was the only thing that made MK good. Give some credit where it's due, at least.

And "good entertainment" is purely subjective. Last time I checked, MKvsDC sold quite well, and many people are happy with it. I know I am.
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05/25/2009 08:33 PM (UTC)
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NOOOO!!!!!! MIDWAY DONT ACCEPT!!!!!!!! THEY WILL RUIN MK!!!!!!!!!!!
if they accept, it's no longer gorey mk,it's kindergarton mk with scorpion and sub-zero in thongs and tights.


As shocking as this may be, DC's comics have been far more violent than most MK games, so take that as you will.

As for the crew, I think they should come with the series.

I liked MK vs DCU. Yes, I would have liked more gore, but it had better gameplay than the last few games, and the best graphics to that point. Plus, it had some nice cutscenes.
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05/25/2009 11:46 PM (UTC)
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i dont think there going to do any more blood or gore....
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05/26/2009 06:49 PM (UTC)
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Nic-V Wrote:
[SUB-ZERO Wrote:
Everything should be fine no mather who owns the rights of MK. There is one important thing and this thing, or rather man is Ed Boon. Now my question is. If WB gets it's hands on MK. Will they keep Boon as the MK team leader? If they will then MK has future. If they don't have Boon then MK is doomed.

The article specifically says that the Chicago studios are included in the deal. Now why would WB want Chicago? Hmm

I have even heard that WB don't even want the San Diego and Newcastle studios.
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05/26/2009 07:39 PM (UTC)
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alltimers Wrote:
i dont think there going to do any more blood or gore....


I totally and completely cannot understand posts like this. It has been shown MANY times in this thread that WB HAS done games with all of your precious blood and gore in it. WHY are things going to change now.
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05/27/2009 07:21 PM (UTC)
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DC doesn't shy away from violence, and this should be sufficient proof of that.

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/whatkindofsicksupersnuffcomicisthis.jpg

http://www.theglobalcollector.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/untitled.bmp (yes, he's older, and lost a second arm to the same psycho)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/return.jpg (That's just brutal)

http://www.titanstower.com/assets/whos%20who/aapanels/teentitans3/IC4pantha.jpg (Never again to get ahead in life)

After all of that, I can't see one good reason why they'd have to turn the gore down.

As for WB's games, they have had their share of mature games, they're not afraid to make them.

Some people are just acting childish because they fear it won't be "mature" enough.
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05/27/2009 11:06 PM (UTC)
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But in games, its a different story. have u played terminator? and seen the play for the new batman? NO BLOOD!!!!1
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05/27/2009 11:17 PM (UTC)
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But in games, its a different story. have u played terminator? and seen the play for the new batman? NO BLOOD!!!!1


Have you played Condemned 2, or the Watchmen game? It's almost like you're purposely avoiding any and all evidence to counter your theory that a WB-helmed MK won't be bloody.
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05/28/2009 03:42 AM (UTC)
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No, I haven't. I haven't played them.

I'm just pointing out this isn't DC's fault. Likely, WB is trying to keep the marketability of Comic-based stuff more open. There are no real comic ratings anymore, minus some self rating. DC doesn't tell you what's going to be in the comic, so everyone can try to get them. Movies and games are different. But, as for MK, it's going to be M likely. With exceptions based on possible crossovers.
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