Poasty-Guy Wrote:
Omega-level mutant is a fictional designation for a certain powerful class of super-powered individuals in the Marvel Comics universe to indicate mutants with the ability (or potential) to exist beyond the boundaries of physical existence. Immortality is also a possibility, but not a requirement. Being able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale also seems to be a requirement.



Iceman is able to lower his body temperature without harm to himself, reaching minus 105F within a few tenths of a second. He is able to freeze any moisture in the air around him into unusually hard ice to form ice-slides and various projectiles and shields. He is also able to summon moisture from the air and create a flood.

Iceman is immune to sub-zero temperatures and has thermal vision: the ability to detect objects visually by how much heat the objects generate.

Over the years, his mutant physiology has gone through radical changes. First, he was able to fashion an armor of densely packed snow around his human form when lowering his temperature; later, this became armor of solid ice. Eventually, he was actually able to transform his body into organic ice in which his strength and endurance were augmented to enhanced levels, but when he turned his body back to normal, he would be an ordinary human.

For a time, Iceman could no longer revert to a human form as part of a secondary mutation. He was constantly in a translucent organic ice-form. Iceman is also able to reconstitute his ice-form if any part of it is damaged or even if it is completely shattered, without permanent harm to himself. He is able to temporarily add the mass of a body of water to his own to increase his mass, size and physical power. His strength and durability in his ice-form are enhanced beyond normal human levels. He can survive not only as sentient ice but as sentient water and vapor. He has the capacity to manipulate all forms of moisture. He has all of the abilities to generate projectiles, slides and shields that he always has had but they have been augmented greatly. Under the mind control of Emma Frost he was able to deposit his bodily mass into a river and reconstitute his entire mass a great distance away in a matter of minutes.

In X-Men: Evolution, he has the ability to create an ice statue of himself on the spot by moving, similar to Sub-Zero in Mortal Kombat. In Operation: Zero Tolerance, while fighting Bastion, Bobby used a similar ability to trick the sentinel leader. Grabbed by the throat and pinned to the ground it seemed as if Bobby had been defeated, but it turned out he had replaced himself with an ice statue without Bastion noticing.




Errr... what can Sub-Zero do again?

Poasty-Guy Wrote:
Omega-level mutant is a fictional designation for a certain powerful class of super-powered individuals in the Marvel Comics universe to indicate mutants with the ability (or potential) to exist beyond the boundaries of physical existence. Immortality is also a possibility, but not a requirement. Being able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale also seems to be a requirement.



Iceman is able to lower his body temperature without harm to himself, reaching minus 105F within a few tenths of a second. He is able to freeze any moisture in the air around him into unusually hard ice to form ice-slides and various projectiles and shields. He is also able to summon moisture from the air and create a flood.

Iceman is immune to sub-zero temperatures and has thermal vision: the ability to detect objects visually by how much heat the objects generate.

Over the years, his mutant physiology has gone through radical changes. First, he was able to fashion an armor of densely packed snow around his human form when lowering his temperature; later, this became armor of solid ice. Eventually, he was actually able to transform his body into organic ice in which his strength and endurance were augmented to enhanced levels, but when he turned his body back to normal, he would be an ordinary human.

For a time, Iceman could no longer revert to a human form as part of a secondary mutation. He was constantly in a translucent organic ice-form. Iceman is also able to reconstitute his ice-form if any part of it is damaged or even if it is completely shattered, without permanent harm to himself. He is able to temporarily add the mass of a body of water to his own to increase his mass, size and physical power. His strength and durability in his ice-form are enhanced beyond normal human levels. He can survive not only as sentient ice but as sentient water and vapor. He has the capacity to manipulate all forms of moisture. He has all of the abilities to generate projectiles, slides and shields that he always has had but they have been augmented greatly. Under the mind control of Emma Frost he was able to deposit his bodily mass into a river and reconstitute his entire mass a great distance away in a matter of minutes.

In X-Men: Evolution, he has the ability to create an ice statue of himself on the spot by moving, similar to Sub-Zero in Mortal Kombat. In Operation: Zero Tolerance, while fighting Bastion, Bobby used a similar ability to trick the sentinel leader. Grabbed by the throat and pinned to the ground it seemed as if Bobby had been defeated, but it turned out he had replaced himself with an ice statue without Bastion noticing.




Errr... what can Sub-Zero do again?

mkflegend Wrote:


Damn, beat me to it.Yep, this is why Sub would win besides comparing the two and how they got their powers Sub's is more likely as the WAY he got his power, through knowledge, wisdom, concentration, passed down to him through his ancestors where the mutants are a freak of nature and overly done in many ways.

I mean what's more logical?Storm or Raiden?Umm, at least Raiden is a god of something, storm controls weather for the other guy in the past that said storm would beat raiden, right....

Poasty-Guy Wrote:



You mention nothing of the abilities Iceman has. Can Sub-Zero exist as water vapour? Didn't think so.


It doesn't matter how one gets their abilities, it's how potent the abilities are.


Plus, Iceman has been in battle with people that could kill Sub-Zero in an instant, and survived. He's trained in the danger room since he became a mutant which gives him knowledge of how to fight and how to react in tense situations.


Sub-Zero got his powers through Ancestry and got the Dragon Medallion to become stronger. That shit means nothing.


It's like saying Jax would beat Cyclops because Jax learned how to use a gun and Cyclops was BORN with the Eye Beams. It doesn't make sense.



As for this battle, the obvious choice would be Storm, as she controls the goddamn weather.

mkflegend Wrote:


And sub-zero has killed or defeated fighters that could easily kill Iceman.

Poasty-Guy Wrote:


Who?



Man, the only MK characters that have a shot at beating any of the omega mutants are the gods. Period.



Iceman is in the same tier as Pheonix. You're saying Sub-Zero can beat Pheonix?


Name some of the shit Sub-Zero can do, but hasn't in the games, and give sources.


Please.

I would also like to know why you did not mention these ULTRA POWERS you made up when I posted Iceman's powers, you ignored them entirely and focused on how they got their power.

Omega mutants = power of the cosmos. Does SUB-ZERO have the power of the cosmos? Just wondering.

Oh he doesn't? Hm.


Like it's been said, Sub-Zero manipulates the element, Iceman IS the element. There's no contest. Never was one.



Pyro is a tool, Blaze would win.