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03/30/2007 06:29 AM (UTC)
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Damn. They stole my idea smile

Restarting the franchise is a great idea I think. Only they can't start from the beginning again. If they want to restart it properly then they need to plan it as a trilogy, begin it with the Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance storyline and finish it off with Armageddon. You've got a classic trilogy right there.

They also need to try and make it similar to films like Sin City and 300 where they shoot it majority Green Screen, thus enabling them to create more mystical environments rather than create sets or go location hunting finding something "similar" but not exact to the feel of MK. If you do it green screen with a few set pieces, you can not only shoot it all in studio but you also cut down the cost of different locations and give an MK film the ancient, mystical atmosphere that got us all into the game in the first place.

All for a new MK franchise. Only dissapointed that they decided to do it before I could smile
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03/30/2007 06:34 AM (UTC)
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wait, if sub is the main person then...this movie would be based off of MKDA?
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03/30/2007 07:15 AM (UTC)
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If this gets done, personally I wouldn't mind it being done from the beginning, the first movie was fine, but we could have a much better product out of it.
Also have the story be more elaborate.

But what I would really enjoy is if they took the character designs from the latest trilogy. I just find that the characters need to be fleshed out visually, especially the "ninja" characters. And the designs of DA to Armageddon are great, even if Sub is reminiscent of Shredder, he'd still look better that way then he would has some cotton clad generic ninja.
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03/31/2007 12:55 AM (UTC)
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TylerDurden Wrote:
If they want to restart it properly then they need to plan it as a trilogy, begin it with the Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance storyline and finish it off with Armageddon. You've got a classic trilogy right there.


Oh my Lord. No! Please never utter those words again! I really loved Deadly Alliance, and I loved Deception...but Armageddon!? If you thought that what they were doing was a Mortal Kombat 3 leaving off where Mortal Kombat: Annihilation ended then I can understand your statement. But STARTING a trilogy HALF-WAY throught the story!? Are you insane? Other people need to be able to watch this movie that have never played the video game and understand what's going on! They said similar to Batman Begins, i.e. they're planning on doing the next movie based off of the ORIGINAL Mortal Kombat game (or thereabouts).

Anyway, I love the idea of rebooting with a new Mortal Kombat movie, similar to Batman Begins. Don't get me wrong, I loved the original movie (the second one looked like a cross between Power Rangers and WWE). But I think it had plot holes and could've been better. I would love to see a Mortal Kombat movie that would make sense to people who have never played the video game. I want to see something that can be taken seriously enough as a film to recieve more than a couple good reviews (and don't anyone reply with "Siskel and Ebert gave it "thumbs up".")...Siskel and Ebert did give the original thumbs up...but practically no one else did, the majority of its reviews were overwhelmingly negative. But I still think it was a good movie, by comparison to most mystically inspired action movies and video game movies. But I'd like one that was a good movie PERIOD.

I'm really looking forward to hearing more news about it. Plus I'd LOVE to see Goro and Shang Tsung's morphs with current CGI technology.
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03/31/2007 01:26 AM (UTC)
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It's great news.. I think. I still believe it will suck. And where's proof that it is actually "Mink" posting on the IMDB forums? Isn't he a porno director?


I don't think it'll suck if it has Lambert and Shao, the whole revamp the MK movie universe from scratch sounds great if you ask me.As long as the dude directing it stays true to the story like the first one did, it'll be good.

To atticus, dude lol MK is always dark...only way they can get darker is if they rate it rated R lol.

Hey, I'll ask that.
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03/31/2007 03:42 AM (UTC)
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It has nothing to do with how true to the original story it is. I could make a movie with a webcam and have characters drawn on dog shit, following the exact story, but it wouldn't be good would it? This sort of film needs to be taken seriously which means they need a very good director, writer, cast & crew.. which means they need a huge budget.. which means that wont ever happen. All this is, is a way to make a few bucks.
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03/31/2007 07:53 AM (UTC)
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I really hope they talk to someone other than Robin Shou. Someone that isn't old as hell and actually knows more martial arts. Not that I care about the Liu Kang character much to begin with, but I couldn't stand to see Shou in another MK movie.
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04/01/2007 02:30 AM (UTC)
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Kinetic Wrote:
TylerDurden Wrote:
If they want to restart it properly then they need to plan it as a trilogy, begin it with the Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance storyline and finish it off with Armageddon. You've got a classic trilogy right there.


Oh my Lord. No! Please never utter those words again! I really loved Deadly Alliance, and I loved Deception...but Armageddon!? If you thought that what they were doing was a Mortal Kombat 3 leaving off where Mortal Kombat: Annihilation ended then I can understand your statement. But STARTING a trilogy HALF-WAY throught the story!? Are you insane? Other people need to be able to watch this movie that have never played the video game and understand what's going on! They said similar to Batman Begins, i.e. they're planning on doing the next movie based off of the ORIGINAL Mortal Kombat game (or thereabouts).

Anyway, I love the idea of rebooting with a new Mortal Kombat movie, similar to Batman Begins. Don't get me wrong, I loved the original movie (the second one looked like a cross between Power Rangers and WWE). But I think it had plot holes and could've been better. I would love to see a Mortal Kombat movie that would make sense to people who have never played the video game. I want to see something that can be taken seriously enough as a film to recieve more than a couple good reviews (and don't anyone reply with "Siskel and Ebert gave it "thumbs up".")...Siskel and Ebert did give the original thumbs up...but practically no one else did, the majority of its reviews were overwhelmingly negative. But I still think it was a good movie, by comparison to most mystically inspired action movies and video game movies. But I'd like one that was a good movie PERIOD.

I'm really looking forward to hearing more news about it. Plus I'd LOVE to see Goro and Shang Tsung's morphs with current CGI technology.


I know what you mean by people going in and not understanding what is going on because the story is not established.

What I am suggesting is base it on those three games as it is more of a continual running storyline than mk 1, 2 & 3...

(only because they are more or less tournament after tournament plus the concept of the whole resurrecting the Dragon King seems a much more epic story than the invasion of Shao Kahn. But hey, maybe they can combine the two stories? Who knows. That would probably upset a lot of die hard fans tho. I wouldn't mind so much if they had them in the same trilogy of films as long as they got the characters and stories correct it's all good)

...But mainly what I'm saying is that you don't just start off with Liu Kang dying and Shang Tsung & Quan Chi "killing" Shao Kahn, you give the films a backstory first. Very much like the first Lord of the Rings film. FOTR isn't the beginning. There is plenty of backstory that leads up to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. You can do the same for MKDA thru to MKA. That is if you don't use the Shao Kahn invasion plot as i said above. Then both Liu Kang and Shao Kahn are established characters for the general audience and they understand who is who and how important to the plot certain characters are.

Granted the Armageddon storyline isn't quite as good as the MKDA and MKD games but that can be easily fixed with a few tweaks here and there to make it a little more credible for the story rather than everyone is resurrected and fights each other. Collaborate with the MK team and develop something that works, and works well, for film.
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04/01/2007 04:21 PM (UTC)
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As for the idea of 'rebooting' the franchise, I'm sorta 50/50 on it, though I understand why given the mess the second movie made with trying to make a third movie to follow MKA.

Now, as much as I know everyone has a bit more enthusiasm about a MK movie being made and greenlighted, this news really brings up a few more complications than the MK3 project had--which might have us waiting for tangible news on it's progress for a while.

For the MK3 project, I believe it was said that there was a script or some semblance of a script and that pre-production was ready to start. That was the status of the project for years. Than it was noted that it was being re-written. I mean, what was holding this project back for so long? Was there a solid distribution deal with a larger studio? How much drive was put forth into lobbying for a deal with a studio like Universal, New Line or Paramount? I'm sure no one was asking these questions before, yet they have to be asked now.

But now with a supposed 'reboot', more questions arise. There was some idea of a cast for MK3, now they have to start all over again. What is the director's vision for the Mortal Kombat 'reboot'? I've seen "Into the Sun' and... I really don't know what to expect and that frightens me to be honest. I mean, this is something that everyone would love to see on the silver screen. I'm not sure if we find out that it'll be a DVD/vhs release that I'll be all that hyped about it. I don't know about anyone else. Like I stated what; will his vision of the movie be?

If no viable forward progress happens in the next 4-6 months, people might have to be resigned to a repeat of the same look from the MK:Dev imdb.com page all over again.

The waiting game continues, again...


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04/02/2007 03:44 AM (UTC)
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This sucks!!

We don't need a reboot of the movies! I don't want to see the same ol Liu, Sonya, Johnny, Scorpion, Subzero. ::yawn::

I wanted to finally see Tanya in a movie. :(
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04/05/2007 01:53 AM (UTC)
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What's the movie making process? Essentially?

Writting, Casting, Contracts, Production, Release?
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What's the movie making process? Essentially?

Writting, Casting, Contracts, Production, Release?


Oh boy! I'll spare you the very lengthy explanation and be as brief as possible from what I've read and seen about the industry. Though, I'm not proclaiming myself as an authority.

In Hollywood, generally studios determine whether or not a movie is 'greenlighted' or given the o.k. to begin pre-production (I'll break down the basics of pre-production later). What happens a lot of times is a studio buys a script that it feels strongly about and through numerous meetings, lunches, etc, they go over the good and weak points of the script and have it go through revisions that make it as good as the studio wants it to be. Every script goes through revisions to some degree, even during pre-production and filming in some instances.

So, the script is finalized and the studio or production company is happy, though as stated before, further revisions to parts of the script may occur. Pre-production begins. The BEST example of this process in action is the now dead or dormant Project Greenlight series that HBO and Bravo aired for three years. The production staff is hired from storyboard artist to grips to an editor, locations are scouted, actors hired, a tentative shooting schedule made... and a partridge in a pear tree. A director is chosen before pre-production sometimes, but there are times where they aren't.

However, from what I've read and heard about, this is the time where shit can go pear shaped and kill a project or put it on the back burner pretty quick. It could be due to lack of money that a production company has to put up to finance the film and it has to find it somehow, Which happens a lot! There may be times that the script is in real bad shape and pre-production is limping along on a slow track to "Nowhereville'. Hmmm... sound familiar people? wink

I'm not familiar with the 'contract' aspect, but I'm sure that influences casting, which can lag on for a while. A producer might say, "Let's see if we can get So-and-so! He's well known and he'll be a draw." Then they go to his agent and sometime later the agent will either say that his client elects to pass or their client wants a certain amount of money. Hmmmm.... how much money does the company have invested in the project again? How much is the actor asking for? Back to finding an actor to fill the role. sad

I hear that once a project survives the MANY pitfalls that can happen in pre-production, production begins. Often scouting of locations continue as well as hiring of actors -- mostly extras I imagine. Movies for the most part are not shot in sequence. Most times it's just not feasible due to when and for how long scouted locations have been scheduled for. So whenever you watch a movie all the way through, the beginning may have been shot towards the end or mid-way through production. It's just how it is most times. Though, I read that 300 was shot in sequence which is pretty interesting. Production for a studio movie usually lasts 3-3.5 months. sometimes shorter for smaller pictures.

Post production is where everything comes together. The music is added, special effects (if any) are added, sound effects and other stuff that escape my mind or might not know about. The most crucial stage of post production is when the film is edited together. Essentially, this stage is where the movie is really made. But editing doesn't go through just one pass. The first raw cut is shown to producers and they give their input and it'll go back in the editor's hands to refine.

After any number of editing sessions, the film is ready for test audiences and they are given a sheet to grade the screened film based on certain criterias. I forgot what they are, but I do know that an average score that's bad means that the film will have to go back into the editing room. A good score means that the test audiances are fine with the product, but it could still go back into editing to clean up the film more. What does happen is that scenes may have to be re-shot, even after production has ended. I'm on the opintion that production isn't over till it's released. tongue

The release date can be determined by how long production and post-production lasts. Production and post-production of Evan Almighty -- the sequel to Bruce Almighty -- went longer than expected due to the effects that were needed to be generated by the special effects vendors took a long time to finish. Hmmm... I think they're still working on them. Not sure though. The movie went over budget and I think the studio wanted to have the movie in theaters originally before the end of last year.

Of course studios would want to release a film where it wouldn't be over shadowed by a 'blockbuster' type film. You will notice that most of the Oscar contending films are released after the Summer Blockbuster Season. But here's the kicker! Sometimes... a studio will bury a film or put it on the shelf for some period of time to the point where if it's not released in theaters, they go straight to dvd/video. This happened with Knockaround Guys starring Berry Pepper and Vin Diesel. It wasn't until Diesel started becoming well known the movie hit theaters. I think it was on the shelf for almost a year.

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I imagine that the MK3/MK reboot film has been languishing in the "lame script-no movie distribution deal" tar pits and feel that it'll be more of the same till both issues are addressed competently. Shit. I'm almost tempted to write a treatment myself, HELL maybe an entire script, just to make the smallest of forward progress on this thing cause shit ain't getting done on either end.

Eh... anyhoo... this is as much as I know -- which I know isn't much compared to someone in the biz. But I wanted to answer your question.

Heh... See! A brief explination. lmao!tonguegrin


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06/16/2007 02:27 AM (UTC)
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Wow if its a restart... why have the people that were in it in the first place other than cameos.

Does this director MINK have a first name or a last name? I remember back in 1999 some Nine Inch Nails (band for those that don't know) fans pulled a fast one on IMDb. The pranksters got IMDb to post information about the Crow 3 would star Trent Reznor, the singer of the said band.

They even had publicity shots of Trent looking like the Crow. It was a laugh for about 5 minutes smile
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06/16/2007 02:42 PM (UTC)
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James Marsden as Johnny Cage
Jason Statham as Kano

These two would be great I think
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06/16/2007 04:13 PM (UTC)
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I absolutely agree about Jason Statam as Kano. I was really saddened by the fact the original Kano died.

I would place Tony Jaa as Kung Lao myself. Robin does make an excellent Liu Kang, BUT its now like 10 years later. Liu would be 10 years older. I'm not saying that Robin couldn't still do it, but isn't Liu just younger?
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06/16/2007 04:58 PM (UTC)
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Tony Jaa as Kung Lao? hmm, i don't know, Jaa is a Muay Thai fighter, and Kung Lao is a Shaolin Monk... i' m not saying Jaa wouldn't be good for the role, i saw Ong-Bak and Tom-Yumm-Goong, Jaa is great, really good! but simply his fighting style is quite different from Kung Lao's one.. hmm and Robin Shou.. well if the movie is a start over, then i think Liu Kang souldn't be in it, a couple of MK1 shots with him defeating Shang Tsung is enough. If they want to make it like Batman Begins, then they must tell the origins of Mortal Kombat. like, showing The Great Kung Lao defeating Shang Tsung (could use MK Conquest images), showing The Great Kung Lao being defeated by Goro, showing some earth warriors dying at Goro's hands through the 500 years of Kombat between Kung Lao's death and the victory of Liu Kang. then they could show Liu Kang defeating Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, and Shinnok. Then his death and the sacrifice of Rayden against the deadly alliance. all of this made in the right way, could be a good movie i think.
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06/17/2007 05:19 AM (UTC)
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If they are redoing the movies, I hope that they do them together like the did LOTR.

Then they wouldn't muck us around, and hopefully we would get a third movie. winkwinkwink

I dont mind them redoing them so long as they have better effects and maybe some blood and gore in it. glasses
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06/18/2007 06:18 PM (UTC)
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Yes, it needs violence, but a different kind. Not just violence for the sake of violence (ala freddy v jason) but powerful violence, almost scary violence. It's hard to explain.. some of u might know what im talking about.

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06/18/2007 07:26 PM (UTC)
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clearing some doubt:
1)e have 2 choose for Liu kang:or Robin Shu or he actor that ortrayed him in the first two games(he's a famous martial arts superstar).
if they choose a third man,he will be a unknown face;
2)Tony Jaa is a dancer,an acrobat,but definitely not a true fighter.
normally a common actor needs stuntmen for jumping,rollings and other stunts,but he can do good kicks and punch with some trianing.
instead Tony jaa needs stuntmen for kicking and punching,but can do stunts and other things.
we need a real martial artist.
3)Linden Ashby,Taisa Soto and Cristopher lambert should be reconfermed.
4) the rest of the cast8stuntmen,coordinator,fighting scenes coordinato) should be more or less the same staff of Conquest.

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06/19/2007 01:53 AM (UTC)
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If they dont find a better actor to play as Jax, I'll go crazy.





All this movie needs is a decent amount of confirms, a trailer, and MK3 is good to go.
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06/20/2007 12:43 AM (UTC)
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Stupid IMO to restart the franchise over. The first movie was good, and it's not like there's been a lot of movies for the franchise to justify a new take on it IMO. A third movie could still work given the horrendous script of Annihilation IMO, and who really wants to see the first MK movie redone?


I can't help but TOTALLY agree with you on that one. I also thought that the first Mortal Kombat was classic. I don't think it initially warrants a remake at all. However, with the overwhelming failure of MK:Annihilation, I now think that the creators can justify scratching the movie franchise and starting over. Yes, the original MK was basically perfect, but Annihilation's failure overshadows it's success. I think it is good news to an MK fan to know that the movie franchise will be wiping the slate clean and starting afresh.
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06/20/2007 04:05 AM (UTC)
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James Marsden as Johnny Cage
Jason Statham as Kano

These two would be great I think


But Marsden wouldn't be able to shoot any beam from his eyes anymore when he put off his glasses grin

Though it's a great news I think, I won't be glad till a confirmed script and cast for the movie revealed.
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06/20/2007 05:10 AM (UTC)
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well,if you are like me or alot of people.The one question you really must ask is..When are they going to come out and say this is a joke.I dont care who reports on this movie,its never going to be made.I would love to have another one,but guys come on,open your eyes.The fact of the matter is,we all have fallen for this joke about another mk movie.

The more you come on here and talk about it wont get anything done.Calling,writing to threshold or whatever,still wont get another mk out.I know theres a fan base for one but its not big enough for threshold to take the risk of losing money.If they thought another mk movie would make money,trust me,there would of been one by now.You think people in hollywood are stupid???Theres a reason why there isnt another Mortal Kombat movie.
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06/22/2007 11:20 AM (UTC)
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Reboot or Restart? Only way I'll go with that is if they sign a contract saying that we will get a 3 picture MK deal. I dont wanna be stuck 10 years from now in this same exact situation. 2 new movies and waiting on a third.
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06/22/2007 08:01 PM (UTC)
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IF you remember way back in the day,lets say 11 years ago.There was a 3 picture deal sign with the main actors.I guess some of them bought their way out of the contracts and others i dunno.I just wouldnt ever want a all cgi movie that would ruin it.But from my above posts,not to worry cause mk3=1 will never happen.And i hope to god it doesnt,cause it will go straight to DVD and that just isnt right.I rather have MK CONQUEST the complete series on dvd instead of another movie.That and MKDOTR that would make me happy.
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