Make the Next Boss a Female....
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01/30/2008 06:49 AM EST
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If there were a female boss, I'd like her to be fast, agile, sexy and dominating in appearance. she should have an aura of wonder and authority that makes a person take notice but at the same time be slightly afraid. She should be gentle looking and beautiful throughout all of this to give a false impression of her hidden power and fireceness and she should definitely be seductive and the sort of femme fatale you love to hate but at the same time love because she's so damn kickass. Her name should be one that is sexy, unique and it should be one that voices intrigue and authority or power when spoken. Yeah, I love my women in fighters. And the above is how they all should be - boss or not!


Well said bro. I hope if that were to happen, that Boon wouldn't screw it up and call her Female Shao Kahn; like the way he did with Frost calling her a female Sub-zero at first.sad


ThePredator151, I like those image ideas. Very cool, but I can't view some of them.sad
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01/30/2008 12:40 PM EST
I wanna address the opinion that females bosses wouldn't fit in MK games to come...

The main question I wanna ask everyone who this applies to, is:

How do you figure they won't fit? Is it just sheer opinion? Or is it because it's an idea about a woman-in-charge?

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I mean, I look at all the MK games' rosters often. Mainly MKA's since everybody worth mentioning is there, and I think it's an easy step to have a female boss. Looking at MkA's Roster again...Here, as far as females so far we've had:

1. Khameleon - A reptilian female from a distant world.

2. Sonya - A member of a very high ranking military faction in the real world.

3. Princess Kitana - Royalty (as tarnished as she may seem) from another planet. Oh, and a ninja.

4. Mileena - A clone of Princess Kitana, except for the unruly grill.

5. Jade - Another female ninja, body guard for Kitana, and also a spy.

6. Ashrah - A demon supposedly "cleansed of evil" through her sword the kriss.

7. Li Mei - A vengeful citizen of a town that had it's souls consumed by the sorcerer, Shang Tsung.

8. Tanya - Not a ninja. Daughter of an Edenian Ambassador, a traitor, and enemy of the Royalty in Edenia for her treachery.

9. Frost - A lawless student of Sub-Zero

10. Queen Sindel - The once evil, undead Queen of Edenia.

11. Nitara - "Vampire from a once fused realm to Outworld".

12. Kira - A Black Dragon Member under the reformed rule of Kabal.

13. Sareena - A demon. Was once a lieutenant for Quan Chi. Now is Lin Kuei beside Sub Zero.

14. Sheeva - Shokan, once a body guard for Queen Sindel.

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Now looking at a break down like that, the entity I see missing is a female who is a threat, and in power right out front. Sindel got close, but besides that, no woman has come close.

So what's the real dislike? I just want some real insight here.

The one thing I do disagree with, is making her primary appearance deformed in some crazy way. I think she should look normal for the most part.
No wings(that looked stupid on Nitara imo), no huge horns or anything crazy like that, making her look like some crazy hybrid race. We've already had all that before. I might white her eyes out, but even that's getting a little old.

I think she should have "effects". Like regular eyes, that change in shape and color. Maybe the even glow at times, or turn covered in blood. Her weapon could have some of the effects like I mentioned before....and then her special moves like, only a projectile should have a special effect, or "aura" to it.

Simplicity, with aggressive hues is what made Kahn so intimidating. I don't see why that wouldn't work for a female.

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Personally, I'd love a female boss character as the final or sub boss and it'd be a nice change to MK's overly masculine boss line ups.


YES! That's what I'm saying dude. I mean, males should probably still lead in number, but the ratio right now is way uneven. 14 males: 50 males? No super powered female bosses? It's crazy right now.

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ThePredator151, I like those image ideas. Very cool, but I can't view some of them.sad


I was afraid that would happen....I'll fix it. There's some really great images i'd like everyone to see.

Luis Royo and Boris Vallejo are the two of the artist I've found, and held on to over the years.

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1. Good Examples

2. Some Better Examples

3. Best Examples #1

4. Best Examples #2

5. Very Best Examples I found

#'s 3,4, & 5 are almost exactly what I was thinking when I started this thread. Especially #5 really..

Glad I did it like this too, cuz I was able to fit more pictures in there.

enjo--- Oh, if you see black boxes or weird blurriness, it's to shield nudity from this site for the kiddies.

Okay, enjoy! I hope this helps some people definitely visualize how I think a Female Boss could look. Refer to last post for speech patterns.
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01/31/2008 12:35 AM EST
Thanks for the reuploaded pics man. If the female boss were to look like any of them, then I say Hell Yeah!

Though suddenly I am recalling the Nudity in MK8 thread again.grin
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01/31/2008 05:00 AM EST
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Though suddenly I am recalling the Nudity in MK8 thread again.grin


Oh no. lol

I think she should be harder than that actually. She should be dirty//gritty//nasty//creepy like, instead of the sex attempts. Her personality should have an aura that says: "This is what the devil would be like."

She should just have a very sexual appeal to her in appearance.Words or phrases that come to mind again are:

1. Dirty(puss, mud, and blood ect)
2. Cynical
3. Creepy(snakes, bugs, living plants), Living poison Ivy, "Gangrene"
4. Painful Precision or Exactness, Tactical
5. Uncanny Strictness
6. Razor Sharp tongue and awareness due to her special abilities and age.
7. Passive Aggressive Aggressive, "Gangrene"//Cancer
8. Blatantly Manipulative(you know out front that you're screwed when you deal with her.....do not owe her anything, because she will use you up in return....especially if she saved your life before)
9. Social Pathology
10. Black Widow Spider, Black Rose Thorn
11. A swarm of Wasp stings in one woman..
12. Nasty ( she might smack the shit out of someone, and then taste their blood. She might eat something crawly while some gross, green blood drips from her lips to prove a point....
13. Stone Cold Hearted ( She'll take brutality to the next level)
14. Absolutely Ruthless


We should verge some of the torture seen in the Saw, or Hostel movies with her.

ect ect...
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01/31/2008 06:13 AM EST
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The one thing I do disagree with, is making her primary appearance deformed in some crazy way. I think she should look normal for the most part.
No wings(that looked stupid on Nitara imo), no huge horns or anything crazy like that, making her look like some crazy hybrid race. We've already had all that before. I might white her eyes out, but even that's getting a little old.

I think she should have "effects". Like regular eyes, that change in shape and color. Maybe the even glow at times, or turn covered in blood. Her weapon could have some of the effects like I mentioned before....and then her special moves like, only a projectile should have a special effect, or "aura" to it.

5. Very Best Examples I found


Yer man, absolutely what I was thinking. This is EXACTLY what a female boss should be like. That pic is awesome and that would be an absolutely wicked female boss.

Good job man, good pic.
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01/31/2008 04:08 PM EST
ThePredator151 Wrote:
Aquarius_D Wrote:
Though suddenly I am recalling the Nudity in MK8 thread again.grin


Oh no. lol

I think she should be harder than that actually. She should be dirty//gritty//nasty//creepy like, instead of the sex attempts. Her personality should have an aura that says: "This is what the devil would be like."

She should just have a very sexual appeal to her in appearance.Words or phrases that come to mind again are:

1. Dirty(puss, mud, and blood ect)
2. Cynical
3. Creepy(snakes, bugs, living plants), Living poison Ivy, "Gangrene"
4. Painful Precision or Exactness, Tactical
5. Uncanny Strictness
6. Razor Sharp tongue and awareness due to her special abilities and age.
7. Passive Aggressive Aggressive, "Gangrene"//Cancer
8. Blatantly Manipulative(you know out front that you're screwed when you deal with her.....do not owe her anything, because she will use you up in return....especially if she saved your life before)
9. Social Pathology
10. Black Widow Spider, Black Rose Thorn
11. A swarm of Wasp stings in one woman..
12. Nasty ( she might smack the shit out of someone, and then taste their blood. She might eat something crawly while some gross, green blood drips from her lips to prove a point....
13. Stone Cold Hearted ( She'll take brutality to the next level)
14. Absolutely Ruthless


We should verge some of the torture seen in the Saw, or Hostel movies with her.

ect ect...
Which is why the next female boss should be a demon. All of those things (Well, almost all of 'em) could be added on fairly easily. Or try a Succubus.
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01/31/2008 04:28 PM EST
Weeell, see, if she's visually hideous or deformed, you kind of expect her to do gross out stuff. It's like....hm.

Imagine seeing beautiful, Jessica Alba walking down the street somewhere....and all of a sudden a gross un-dead taratula scurries up her face, and in to her mouth...

*she crunches away*

You immediately understand that there is definitely something not right with that person. See what I mean?

Also, if she doesn't look crazy with the wings, horns and all that .... You could forget she was like that, and be surprised again, and again every time she does something like eat a crazy looking, hairy, nasty, un-dead spider.

egh, I get the heebie geebies just thinking about Jessica Alba like that.

lol
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01/31/2008 04:41 PM EST
I definitely see what you're saying.
I like your concept-very interesting.grin

She could be referred to as "The Dark Lady"
like this picture below:




Like you previously stated,
she has an innocent unpredictable look, yet with deceptive intentions.

She doesn't care for anyone but herself---extremely arrogant!
She laughs at the poor expense of others.
This boss will do anything to get her way, even sacrifice the safety of herself.

The only thing that frightens her though,
is if she fails to bring her wicked goals into fruition
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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....
02/01/2008 07:13 AM EST
Why not make tag team?Boss+his wife.
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02/01/2008 12:51 PM EST
ThePredator151, I like your ideas, hope Midway sees them and find a way to incorporate it into MK.

Some of your ideas remind me of the female villains in BloodRayne 2 like Ferril and Ephemera. Hey even a bit like Rayne herself too(even though she's fighting for the side of good.
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02/01/2008 05:36 PM EST
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Why not make tag team?Boss+his wife.


NO!

If anything, the female should just come out of nowhere. She has no connection to any of the MK characters whatsoever.

We already have witnessed that with Sindel and Kahn, we don't need another bride and groom here. We need a strong, evil bitch. (Like me... no no I'm j/k)

But she needs to be a fuking btich and everyone hates her. No matter how cool she looks, gotta be a bitch to be in the game.

CHEERS!grin
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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....
02/01/2008 07:33 PM EST
I didnt look to see if this idea was already brought up in here, so apologies if it has been.

I do think it would be a nice change to have female boss or sub boss, but i dont think they should do it soleley so they can say ;we had a female boss.' She needs to have purpose, motive and future potential.

Personally, i would love to see a female boss, something similar to Kreeya and Vorpax from the TV Show Mortal Kombat Conquest.

basically, Kreeya travelled the realms, amassing a huse army of warriors, In turn she sued them to conquer each new realm, and take over. Kreeya had the power to mate with, seemingly, any male, and produce hundreds if not thousands of offspring withing a matter of days, through huge hives. Not only this, but the children turned into full adults in only another two or three days. Her offspring were of both sexes (I think) but the males seemed to be obselete, with the women becoming strong powerful warriors. Only the Queen had the ability to do the mating, and as they died, they apssed it onto the first born daughter (ie Vorpax) and so the cycle continued.

What I like about kreeya is taht she herself was a great warrior, but she was cunning. She used the fact she could produce huge armies in days to cause her potential mates to fight betwen themselves. In the show, she ahd Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Reptile and Shaa Kahn all fighting amongst themsevles to win the chance to mate, meanign Kreeya herself was left out of the main fighting.

Vorpax double crossed Kreeya, and with the help of Kung Lao, Siro and Taja, killed her mother and gained her power.

They could easily write someone like this into the MK story, even Vorpax herself. (Minor difficulties woul arise with the ending to MKC, but we all know Raiden, Kitana, The Original Kung lao, Reptile were not killed by Kahn, since most of them ahve been alive in the mk-games storyline).

To have a female character like thsi would be great, as she herself would be a formibable foe, but would have something to hold over the big guys all squabbling between themselves, allowing her time to a mass a new army and out-number them all.

It would be a good basis for a storyline, and also for future storylines taht come off of it.

If they had merely to introduce a female just for the sake of it, she would likely be a one-hit-wonder who was randomly made up with no real longevity.

When I done a fan-fic a while ago, I had Khameleon become this kind of character. I did not ahve her become a boos though, but she could easily be moulded into this tyype of character, especially if more significance is given to her 'matriarch' status. I used (or was going to use) her ability to mate with anyone to play off some of the abd guys, and good guys, making her more prominent and interesting. And skanky. Lol.
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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....
02/01/2008 10:20 PM EST
MK shouldn't imclude any female characters at all.
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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....
02/01/2008 10:34 PM EST
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MK shouldn't imclude any female characters at all.

Blatent madness. If there were no females in MK, or any other fighter for that matter, I wouldn't bother with it. The females add a touch of class and elegance etc which the men just can't do. Plus they add a whole new dimension of gameplay, personality etc and it'd just be boring playing as a bunch of males over and over. I can imagine a non female MK game would not appeal to many and the majority of fans would definitely not be happy.
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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....
02/01/2008 10:40 PM EST
I don't care if it's male or female as look as we get something better than Blaze, he was horrible.
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02/01/2008 10:40 PM EST
Asesino Wrote:
MK shouldn't imclude any female characters at all.


What's the point in that? Name one fighting game that has not featured any girls in it.... exactly, therefore that will never happen.

Though, I'm thinking about a basic design for someone like this, can we make another Indian character, though she's not a replacement of Nightwolf, nor share anything in common with him?

I'm just asking for an opinion, not like I really want another one of something that has already been created, but sitll. Just give it a thought.
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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....
02/01/2008 10:59 PM EST
Asesino Wrote:
MK shouldn't imclude any female characters at all.


Why not?
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02/02/2008 06:54 AM EST
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Asesino Wrote:
MK shouldn't imclude any female characters at all.


Why not?


I see what he is saying...

Fighting is a very masculine thing. All guys like it (except for the feminine ones). I know, my only evidence is a stereotype, but I believe it to be true.

Then again, there are some women in MK that kick ass! And are pretty good fighters.

I don't think the girls need to go altogether.

I'm still a bit sketchy on the whole female boss thing. I suppose it may be cool... it's just be a bit abnormal, IMO.
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02/02/2008 12:24 PM EST
A female boss who can fucking whoop your ass is far more intimidating than a full grown man in tighty-whiteys with a hammer. A female boss would work.

She should not, however, be like the other females of the series, where she's seen as a "sexy" figure with barely any clothing. She needs to look somewhat respectable to be intimidating. So I say she should wear some form of armour, like Li Mei.

For her moves, she should rely more on speed, unlike virtually every other boss in the series who would move super slow and kill you in 5 hits.

So yeah, I'd enjoy a female boss. But, not yet. Raiden should be built up over the next few games, and become the boss. Then a female could come after.
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02/02/2008 01:58 PM EST
If there is a female boss, she needs to be totally dominatrix-style, like Ivy on Soul Caliber. Only darker, wearing all black. Her weapon should be a long-ass whip and she should be painfully precise and quick with it. This, if done right, would make her incredibly hard to beat. Just think of the final battle in The Protector, for those who have seen it. But she should be a quick and powerful combatant up close as well. She should have a totally dominant air about her, absolutely nothing submissive about her at all.

Here's some images I found online:

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Those images do not quite project the tough-as-nails qualities that I was looking for, but it's a start. Mainly just think of Ivy from Soul Caliber combined with Trinity from the Matrix only more hardcore. Add a healthy dose of Uma Thurman from Pulp Fiction and of course the Triad boss from The Protector and you get the picture.


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02/02/2008 04:40 PM EST
Nitara could be a good Female boss, She can find something which summons lots of vampires and she leads them, or mabye that would be the same as deadly alliance
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02/02/2008 04:50 PM EST
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Nitara could be a good Female boss, She can find something which summons lots of vampires and she leads them, or mabye that would be the same as deadly alliance
Problem is that she has no will to conquer the realms because she knows what happens to power-hungry tyrants. They get caps busted in their asses.
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02/02/2008 05:18 PM EST
[IMG]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/Chrome01/Testcapoeira.jpg[/IMG]

one sketch I am not particularly fond of, but it might work with touchups.
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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....
02/02/2008 06:10 PM EST
I'm not too fond of it either, Chrome. She looks rather androgynous to me and doesn't scream "boss potential". Btw, you need to edit the link by using the < > tags instead.
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RE: Make the Next Boss a Female....
02/02/2008 11:39 PM EST
I was thinking something like this.