See, I didn't get anything out of that scene. I thought it was terrible. Maybe it was the voice actress, maybe it's that Jade is supposed to have a stilted, aristocratic cadence because that's what they want Edenians to be like, I don't know...but her whole chapter, and especially that scene, all I could think of is Halle Berry in the first X-Men movie, trying to play Storm with that ridiculously fake vaguely African accent, and that famous "Frog struck by lightning" attempt to be witty that fell completely flat.

Now, if they intended on purpose for Jade to sound like a showboat who's bad at delivering punchlines, that would've been something, but I really doubt her one-liners are bad or her voice actress is too stiff on purpose, that'd be way too subtle and self-aware considering the writing calibur of everything else in the game. Johnny Cage, she is not.

That's what I meant earlier when I said I'm sure she was "meant" to sound sassy in her chapter but really didn't, and thus, I didn't really think she had any personality throughout the whole chapter. It felt like they were trying to establish one, but I believe the attempt failed. I think Jade's chapter may be my least favorite in the game, it feels tacked on and last minute, like it could've been DLC or not happened at all, everything in it could have happened off-screen, jumping straight from Kitana's capture and Jade behind the pillar saying "I have failed you blah blah blah" to Jade telling Raiden about it, and not only would the plot have not even missed a beat, but we'd know no less about Jade than we do now. It literally accomplished nothing...except I guess it was worth it in THEORY to have a scene somewhere in the game where someone mistakes Mileena for Kitana...too bad it didn't make sense because they don't look like twins at all anymore.

As far as compassion or loyalty being adequate character traits, let's play a little game: name ONE character in Mortal Kombat who has a best friend, who they grew up with since childhood, who they AREN'T loyal to and WOULDN'T save if they were captured. Even the modern, jealousy-fueled version of Kung Lao would never outright betray Liu.

"Close friends are close" is normal behavior for every living being under the sun. It's like saying "Capable of growing hair" is a personality, or "eats food" is, or "showers regularly" is. The only characters in MK who would betray their friends don't HAVE any friends to betray.

Before MK9 there were a few...but Shao Kahn's been revealed to have never loved Kitana after all (he doesn't seem to think of his wife as more than a means to an end either, unfortunately), and like I said, the "conflicted and had a hard time choosing between Kahn and Kitana" element of Jade's story from MK3 is completely gone now. And in both cases, the character is left less complex and interesting than they were before.

So as far as modern Smoke and Jade...we know they like their friends. Okay, wow, big surprise. How deep. But what are they actually LIKE as people? We still don't know that very much at all even after each one getting four whole cutscenes to themselves, except that Smoke's preferred method for greeting women is punching them in the face, and Jade has a completely undeserved ego. And I'm making them sound a lot more fun and interesting than they really were when I describe them that way. I WISH the game had really made Smoke out to be chauvanistic to the point of irrationality and violence, and Jade kept trying to come up with bad jokes and puns and everyone else reacted by groaning and telling her to stop. That might have pissed off their fans by making them too comic relief-y and horned in on Cage's turf, but it at least would've been some substance to sink one's teeth into.
I forgot all about him saying "where there's smoke, there's fire" in story mode though, you were right about that. Perhaps I was trying to block it out, lol.

See, I could make a response to this about Jade's personality and such, but all in all, it is just a matter of opinions. I find Jade's sassiness to be quite fitting and I liked her chapter in the game. I am actually surprised she even got a chapter, so I'm a happy camper. ^^

I do agree that being a loyal friend isn't a personality trait per say, as we see that in many of the characters, but it still adds to their characters and strengthens them that they are capable of feeling such loyalty and trust to other persons. Shang Tsung wouldn't be able to feel such to anyone, as he is rather untrustworthy and also doesn't trust anyone himself. THAT would be a personality trait.

I hear ya. Even so, I just try to focus on what they're trying to have the character express. The intent is there; that's good enough for me.



Not especially. I'm simply making the point that he's not a completely irrational ass, that he's capable of expressing more than just anger - which, too, is normal. I mean, Reptile didn't speak two words throughout the game, but we know him as a pretty lonely guy who wants his race back. These characters are built progressively as the series goes on (except for instances when they backpedal). He's just starting out too; when the time comes for him to deal with his status as an Enenra, we'll see how he deals with it. I think that'll be a real moment we can judge his character.

Anyhoo, I think Rain would probably still qualify these days. Unless they come out and tell us he grew up and went through the Edenian forces totally alone, I'm pretty willing to bet he made some allies along the way that he'd sell for a nickel. Not to say there was ever concrete proof they were friends, as many seem to think, but Kitana knowing him hasn't been referenced yet. they could still bring it back, maybe expand on it like some folks want.




Is that really surprising, though? I always figured he didn't, that he had Mileena created to be the daughter he could truly call his own.




In Smoke's case at least, it's something. He's a smartass, a bit of a wisecracker (the housemaid line is priceless). And he seems pretty willing to jump into any fight no matter the odds (Shang and Kano, and was about to go get Sub until Raiden rightfully stopped him). So I see a gargantuan amount of confidence in him, hell, probably overconfidence. It wouldn't be surprising at all to learn someday that big part of the reason he was originally taken by Sektor and Cyrax was because he bit off more than he could chew.



If I only could. I'll need to go and revisit the script, but I'm starting to think every single character spouts their pre-fight quote at some point, just because. I think I remember Liu doing it too.

I always assumed, based on him always showing Kitana some sort of compassion and desire to have her at his side in EVERY media adaptation, that he took her and Sindel because he legitimately wanted the family and felt something for them.

And the games USED to outright say that Mileena was only created to be a Kitana who could be trusted to never turn on him, but was deemed a failure because her looks came out imperfect.
And frankly, the idea of Kahn thinking of Mileena as "his true daughter" is flawed based on the fact alone that SHANG TSUNG is her father, not him. That's always bugged me about Mileena, actually. She's all about daddy's approval but she's loyal to the wrong guy, they've never even established what she thinks of Shang one way or another, the two never interact.

Maybe she doesn't think of Shang as someone close to her,maybe he is like some kind of nurse or doctor when you are born? lol I mean,when you are born,it is only your mom and the doctor in that room,your dad sees you a little bit later,so maybe that's the case here,except if you don't consider Shang to be mom,lol.

If I can do Cyber Sub-Zero's story differently i'd go about it in 2 ways...

1. I'd change his color to gray.
2. I'd call him Smoke.

I really enjoyed Sub-Zero's plot in MK3, it really signified Sub-Zero as being an independent character that broke away from the traditional "pallet swap" gimmick known through the classic 2-D games. Sub-Zero with the scar will forever be the TRUE Sub-Zero to me because of his constantly escalating and developing plot line he obtains in each installment of Mortal Kombat. There is no NEED for a Cyber Sub-Zero in my opinion and I feel that MK9 is just a bad dream in my eyes on what they did to create this frankenstein of a character. Turning Sub-Zero in a cyborg erases an already compelling and awesome plot element in MK3 that tied in Sub-Zero with many characters including all 3 cyborgs, and the Chosen Warriors. If I had it my way I'd write the story mode like this for some of the MK3 parts.

I'd establish some roots for Smoke and his journey on becoming a cyborg. What really made Cyber Smoke an awesome character was his predicament. Him and Sub-Zero were close and I can only imagine Bi-Han's death from MK1 made them the only family they have at that point, so try and imagine all the memories they have as young children growing up with constant beatings, and hardships in the cold mountains as they trained to be the ruthless assassins they would become. I can see both of them playing little brother to Bi-Han in their measurement of skill and maturity growing up. In MK2 both Sub-Zero and Smoke ventured into Outworld and their business was very personal I'd say. Smoke didn't have a family if he was sworn to the Lin Kuei so I can assume that his relationship with Sub-Zero is strong. If I were to write a compelling story involving cyborgs I would use this history to be the link between Smoke's humanity and his cybernetic counterpart, I would want to know what kind of person Smoke or Sub-Zero were at heart before even thinking about turning them into cyborgs . I would also look at the history and tradition of the Lin Kuei itself. I would think that Sub-Zero and Smoke would be the ones to stick to tradition, and also a proper code of ethics that value humanity and what their souls stand for.

I would see that the Grand Master decided to cash out any form of identity and uniqueness his assassins would have in trade for more ruthless and calculating foes to carry out his bidding. This would also give you a sense of the personalities Cyrax and Sektor have. Sektor would be the character that is blindly devoted to his clan to a fanatical level, you instantly know that this character is a BAD GUY. Cyrax albeit hesitant I would feel willingly signs himself up to be automated due to his pledge of loyalty to the Lin Kuei. Let's say Cyrax deep down agrees with Smoke and Sub-Zero but in fear for the alternative or manipulation on Sektor's part he does not lash out as he does in MK9, you would see Cyrax as a bad guy too, but however you see some positive traits in him as well, which makes sense when you look at him from MK Gold and onward.

So with Cyrax submitting to the Grand Master's wishes, it would take a lot of courage to do what both Smoke and Sub-Zero did. As I bet the rest of the Lin Kuei wouldn't even DARE cross the wishes of the Grand Master and upon doing so knew that their lives were going to be at great danger when abandoning the Lin Kuei all together. Having Sub-Zero and Smoke being fugitives in a world that has gone to hell is a cool plot element that actually does tie into the main story. I was let down when they didn't include Nightwolf blessing his lands and summoning all the Chosen Warriors of Earth, this element of the plot forms a dynamic association involving all the good guys with the cyborg characters with the rest of the roster of MK3 in a great story.. Which MK9 never gave us by the way...

I can see Cyrax and Sektor being used in the way the T-800 was in the first Terminator film, as cold, remorseless, and relentless predators that will not stop until they accomplish their mission which would be the capture of killing of Sub-Zero and Smoke. Sub-Zero and Smoke were probably headed towards Nightwolf's refuge out of a feeling from their "SOULS" which serves as a contrast to the other duo perusing them. Every time Sektor and Cyrax show up you would know things were going down similar to the Nemesis from Resident Evil 3. Their strength as bad guys would be solidified on the tragic moment Smoke get captured, which if told right can become a very heart felt moment in Mortal Kombat. With Smoke's capture it can signify the loss of a friend, the loss of a sympathetic companion, and the loss of a soul which would be priceless given that Shao Kahn is taking all of them for his own, so a soul untouched by Shao Kahn and wasted would be a crushing blow to the good guys. I would think that after this point in time Sub-Zero would make it to Nightwolf's lands alone and gain former acquaintances from MK2 but as new allies such as Liu Kang, Johnny Cage Jax, Sonya, and Kung Lao with new faces Stryker, Kabal,and Nightwolf who would be serving as a mentor on the assault against Shao Kahn.

I think the showdown between Sub-Zero, Cyrax, Sektor, and the new CYBER SMOKE, would occur on the way to the final assault with Sub-Zero isolating himself from the rest of the cast to protect them by luring them to the Desert arena. I would see Sub-Zero get owned in a fight against all three of them, but using his compassion for Smoke and his will to remind him of his former self he would succeed in having a temporary ally to fight against Cyrax and Sektor. Smoke would turn on Sektor and fight him while Sub-Zero in second wind would take on Cyrax . Sub-Zero and Smoke would come out on top with Sektor retreating and Cyrax being disabled. Smoke would have conflicted feelings about himself and storm off leaving Sub-Zero and Cyrax alone with Sub-Zero's final act in the story to reprogram Cyrax and venture off alone once he sees that Shao Kahn's grasp on Earth was no more...

Okay winded post, but honestly I feel this would kick the ever loving shit out of the MK3 plot we got in MK9. Tell me your thoughts.

This is actually how I always envisioned all 4 Lin Kuei warriors and their MK3 story,good job writing it down

Of course,if everything was done like that,MK9's story epicness would exceed 10 times more,but oh well,what can we do now.

I just wish that NRS releases some kind of media(cartoons,comics,even an animated movie maybe) tributing old timeline,retelling all events CANONICALLY and PROPERLY,not fucking up character's personalities. Dreams,dreams...

I wish there would be Friday Night like it used to be,so Razor,T-Rex,ProudNintendoFan,Sub-Zero 7th would sit down and talk to Boon,Vogel and Co. about story line of MK9. Can't MKO organize it or something? Are NRS hostages now,who cannot talk with their fans under new WB rule?

Because CSZ having some characters that not in the game (and you must spot them first, that is not the easiest thing) is a VERY VERY BAD thing.
Oh, and there are apparently some characters on the second bridge in the Pit arena that don't appear in the game. And their appearance actually doesn't make much sense too!! Must be the horrific thing for you. Ha-ha-ha.

Maybe you should read about little thing called "Easter Eggs"?

I know what easter eggs are and I know what characters are in the background. However, they were just put there as homage to characters from MKDA-MKA. At least that's how I took it.

Some of those characters in his system make no sense at all, honestly.

Also Grizzle as a Sub-Zero fan I got to give it to you, that was a great post.

Sub-Zero shouldn't have been turned cyber that's just how it is. Listen to fans Ed Boon.

I really would like to know what Vogel has to say about it, as the thread with the story review Vogel replies to it on twitter saying he would love to comment but can't because of legal reasons. I really want the guys to talk about the story though and acknowledge that parts of it were really bad, because Ed Boon's comments on thinking this story was great a few months back blew me away. It did an alright job trying to get points across but ultimately failed in that it went against fans all together.

You know the gameplay would have pleased casual fans ultimately, so why would they not make story appeal to longtime fans? They could have pleased both fanbases.

I don't see much difference between easy to notice guys frpm MKDA-MKA era in the old attires that appear every time in the game and hard to notice portraits of some characters that appear only once in the Story Mode.
I count both as Easter Egg. And even if portraits in CSZ's database is not easter egg that doesn't mean thta said characters couldn't exist in the new timeline. Daegon was around for a thousand years or so.

And NRS will do what they want to do. They shouldn't listen to the longtime fans because then nothing would ever change. Since longtime fans want only repetition of the thing that brought them into the series in the first place. This people should be ingnored at all cost or development will go to nowhere. I personally don't want this series to turn into another comic book-like story that always involve the same guys and eternal status quo. FUCK status quo. I saw how some people were disappointed in MKDA storyline that broadened the scope of the story and introduced new characters. They just wanted the same cast yet again and the same story about Kahn trying to conquer the Earth.

Thing changes. And if you can't accept the changes then it better to leave or you will be very disappointed by the next developments.

Who's to say we're against change? Change should be progressive. The next phase of the character's development.

Sub-Zero starts off as an assassin and changes to a rogue ninja and then to the Grandmaster of the Lin Kuei those were good changes. Turning him into a cyborg is a derailing change and is simply a change meant for shock value.

Exactly!

You should speak about reboot in general then. Because it was not the fact that Sub-Zero became cyborg, took away his storyline, but the global reboot of the franchise.

And once again - we don't know what direction NRS want to take with Sub-Zero now. Storyline of the MK9 wasn't focused on him thta much, so saying that his character is "destroyed" or something like that is prematurely. Maybe CSZ will return in the next and became so cool that all haters will praise him for his story.

And besides NO-ONE HAS GURANTEED THAT SUB-ZERO STORYLINE FROM MK2-MKA WOULD BE REPEATED IF HE WAS NOT TURNED INTO CYBORG!!
Sorry, for the caps, but I think that many people, especially certain Sub-Zero fanboys, forget about this important point. And actually nothing stop Sub-Zero form having his old storyline even as a cyborg. Of course there would some ridicolous arguments that it's not possible.

My god I am tired of hearing this argument all together. He can still do the same things, he can still do the same things. WTF? Yea maybe he can, but what motivation does he have to even want to take over the Lin Kuei?

I mean he wanted to take them back over in the original timeline and reform them into a force for good, and show Sektor that being human is better than being a cyborg.

He can't do that because if he beats Sektor this time, he is a cyborg. So, his humanity has nothing to do with it anymore which essentially says maybe sub-zero should have just became a cyborg all along, because humanity couldn't defeat artificiality which is what it would be saying since Sub-Zero couldn't escape the other cyborgs in the first place, so he was weaker than them.

Then when he finds his armor? How in the hell would that even work? He's going to wear armor over his already bulky metal? It would look ridiculous.

The same story could be told but the motivation behind it would be stupid and wouldn't make sense as him taking back over the Lin Kuei was basically a big "FU cyber initiative" and as I said him finding his deception gear, which is my favorite look of his, would just look ridiculous now.

Also, many people have already covered how many tracks the cyborg road can cover. Look them up.

Sektor - willingly underwent the process

Cyrax - underwent the process by order and now deals with what he is as being a cyborg.

Smoke - was against it by all means but turned by force and now seeks out his humanity.

It's covered, there is no more ground that Sub-Zero can cover as a cyborg and why would anyone want him to seeing as he, along with Scorpion, is the most recognizable character this franchise has. It was bad on all accounts. He was simply the wrong character to ever think about turning fully cyber from the get go, that should have been given to a character who desperately needed it and Sub-Zero didn't.

His old story shouldn't have remained completely intact, but pieces of it should have been visible. I honestly didn't want him to takeover the Lin Kuei at all, why not bring them down via his arcade ending in MK9. I did still want him to find his ancestral armor though. It was awesome. Change can be good change Red Sumac, and in our opinion this was not a good change for our favorite character, which is what I have been arguing with you now for what seems like forever. However, you refuse to see our views and instead throw back you are a fanboy in most people's faces which is not even arguing, it's just insulting. I get you don't really like Sub-Zero but it's not just me you can see that there are plenty of other fans upset about this and want it fixed.

I also seen you say screw cyber smoke, because you hate him and he should never come back. That's completely your opinion, I like cyber smoke, but I can deal with human smoke. Why couldn't both stay human? I feel like this is just NRS's way of saying there must be a blue cyborg, a third cyborg, when really there isn't a need for that at all.

Sub-Zero becoming the grandmaster of the Lin Kuei as a cyborg? Might as well rename it the Tekunin and start converting members.

I say all sort of progress with Sub-Zero has come to a halt. MK9 we left off with him as a ghastly robotic slave for Quan Chi, who in MK4 was the key character who knew a way how to put him down.

Sub-Zero in MK4 was a huge nod to the Mythologies game and paid tribute to the original Sub-Zero, Bi-Han. Since the Lin Kuei disbanded Sub-Zero was free to move on his own, and when Shinnok arrived on the scene everyone was blinded by the ruse Quan Chi put up, everyone except for Sub-Zero thanks to the stories his brother Bi-Han told him.

People seem to forget that Sub-Zero was working completely alone trying to dig up anything about the amulet that he was told about, the amulet that held the key to the bad guys power and he was getting pretty close to digging it up to a point that Quan Chi had to hire Scorpion to put an end to it. Raiden was so distressed over the destructive capabilities Shinnok had due to his experience with the genocide of Reptile's people in Zattera. Liu Kang was focusing all of his efforts in rallying his old allies to liberate Edenia and free Kitana. The only one that knew something was fishy was Sub-Zero and Quan Chi used Scorpion to put a stop to him.

This arc in MK4 gave us the classic Sub-Zero look again with the trademark scar, which was my favorite appearance of Sub-Zero to date. Sub-Zero's motives also hints at his strong bond with his brother, who in the first game appeared as a villain but this dimension gave him human elements. All the good guys were under close observation by Quan Chi except for Sub-Zero so just like Scorpion to the good guys, Sub-Zero played as a "Wild Card" to the bad guys. I love how his character was completely under the radar to Shinnok. I also loved how this game sparked another rivalry between Sub-Zero and Scorpion and gave Scorpion a different motive other than revenge, Quan Chi with his trickery convinced Scorpion that if he did what was asked of him he'd have his life back and his family.

Try to imagine the conflicted thoughts Scorpion would have knowing that since MK2 Scorpion swore an oath of protection for Sub-Zero. But in this game he broke that oath with Quan Chi steering him wrong. I still love the true ending to MK4. Liu Kang and Raiden team up with the rest of the good guys in Edenia to bring down Shinnok and they figured all was said and done when he was defeated. However, Quan Chi knew well aware that those events would happen and the true showdown occurred with Sub-Zero, Scorpion, and Quan Chi. Quan Chi seemed to have had the upper hand knowing that the one character that posed a threat was no longer able to fight, and like every good villain he explains his motives. The unlikely hero in this chapter as you all know of wasn't Sub-Zero but actually Scorpion in his last ditch effort in bringing Quan Chi to hell with him and like always leaving Sub-Zero off in his last act being alone, which is a cool signature trait that I like about Subby.

After all of this of course is when Sub-Zero looked at the threat of what remained of the Lin Kuei and Sektor, but that's another story entirely. MK9 really left us off in quite a pickle, with Sindel, Kitana, and Jade dead, there is nobody to rule Edenia. With Sub-Zero and Scorpion already under Quan Chi's control, there is nobody to threaten him since he already has that threat quelled. So at this rate with that game.... Where the fuck do we go from here?

@ Grizzle

I feel that's where Sareena is going to come into play in the next game. I really do think she is going to free Sub-Zero somehow, and he will be the one who starts to bring about Quan Chi's downfall informing Scorpion that they were both lied too and Quan chi has no intentions of reviving Scorpion's family.

That's the only way I can see this turning out good at all.

We've kinda already been doing that for a long time now.

But arguing that the reboot is a stupid idea isn't as specific as arguing about which specific parts MADE the reboot turn out stupid.
As a side note, props to Grizzle for showing MK4's storyline some love.

So what do you think,Phd. of Mortal Kombat science (just kidding) about this mess with Sub-Zero? You think Sareena should be reintroduced to have impact on BOTH Scorpion and Sub-Zero? I just don't see any other way...You can argue Raiden should undo his mistake with these zombies,but even Shinnok said in the end of MK9 that he didn't matter,so he doesn't acknowledge Thunder God as a threat(to some degree of course) and doesn't worry ....

I think my first choice would be to do another time travel story that undoes Raiden's changes, like...what Raiden did in MK9 is akin to Marty letting Biff get his hands on the almanac and turn Hill Valley into a shithole, so now they have to go back to the 50's AGAIN to stop Biff from ever getting the book.

But there's no way they'd retell MK1 thru 3 two games in a row. So Sareena getting involved with Sub-Zero would be nice to see, sure. Assuming they didn't just set out to take another pairing and fuck it for the sake of having a sad, tragic moment in the game the way they did Liu/Kitana.

To be honest, though...I don't like to have discussions about what might or should happen in MK10 because I genuinely don't care about the new timeline or want to support or discuss anything about it and I probably won't buy the next game. I prefer to put my mental/creative energies into talking about what COULD have happened if Armageddon hadn't been the end of the old timeline, where THOSE versions of the characters could've gone, so I can eventually do fanfics/art about it.

And CSZ and Sektor are not enemies? CSZ doesn't give a damn about anyone, but himself? He is not motivated to destroy bad guys, because they could possibly hunt him down (in case if he resurected as a cyborg)?

I'm not sure how closely you watched MK9 story mode, but CSZ was as heroic as ever. The fact that he became a cyborg didn't turn him into brooding asshole who doesn't care about anyone, but himself. He still go out to save trapped soldies and later participated in destruction of Soulnado. He was still good guy and hero and saying that his cybernitisation changed that, when there is no evidence of that in the game, is pointless.

If Sub-Zero will be resurected as cyborg he would have more than enough motivation to take Sektor down, since he experienced horrors of being turned into machine first-hand.

I don't think that he wanted to show Sektor "how being human is good". What is it? Fairy tail cartoon where you can defeat someone with a power of friendship?
According to Sektor's bio in MK3 he voluntered to become a machine. According to MK9 he never was good person to begin with. He wanted that power and embraced his new form. All that Sub-Zero wnated to do in MKDA is to kick his ass and save Lin Kuei from turnin into cyberninja clan.

Yeah, yeah...you can put as much phylosophical subtext as you want in to battle of Sub-Zero and Sektor. However the fact that Sub-Zero now a cyborg himself doesn't meant that he would calmly watch how Sektor forcefully transforms his former comrads in to soulless assassins.
Once again I remind you that he didn't turn into brooding asshole-egoist who concentrated only on his pain of being turned into machine. His heroic perosnality is fully intact. He fought with his allies against Shao Kahn and it's completely save to assume that he will fight with Sektor. If not to prove his superirioty as human, but to prove his superiority as fighter, for justice and freedom of his comrades from horrible fate.
All this phylosophy about him fighting Sektor just because he is a human, doesn't cost a cent.

About armor...
I am sorry to burst your buble, but events of Deadly Alliance and to certain extent of Deception will not happen. And as I said before NO-ONE GUARANTEED THAT SUB-ZERO WILL REPEAT HIS STORYLINE FROM THE PREVIOUS TIMELINE AND WOUND UP IN OUTWORLD TO BURY FROST AND FIND ARMOR OF HIS ANCESTORs. Heck we don't even know if he meet Frost in the future. Or if there will be any reason for thme to go into the Outwrold.
You try to play in math while you doesn't have all information. That's a failure.
And even if he somehow finds an armor he could modify it or modify his own armor / body to resemble the look of his ancestors. Nothing too contrieve and impossible...of course if you have some imagination. But people with imagination could accept changes I believe.

Sub-Zero technically didn't have any reason to fight Sektor in the first place. He was free and could go anywhere after the end of Shinnok war.

In style of some in depth analyses like Xia and Razor loved to do, one can assume that those events (Shinnok wars) made Sub-Zero to see himself as something more rather than rogue warrior and understand his value for the Earthrealm. It's still could hold true to the CSZ in the new timeline.

Another theory is that Sub-Zero attacked Sektor because he new that as soon as Sektor will have cyber army under his control, he will ineviatbly sent them to liquidate Sub-Zero, who he could perceive as one of the main enemies. So Sub-Zero striked first. It's still could hold true in the new timeline. Even more so, since Sub-Zero now a cyborg and Sektor could see him as much more dangerous adversary rather than if he was still human.

Smoke wasn't turned into cyborg so his path could be covered by Sub-Zero. Besides there are much more possibilities for the storyline development of cybernetic characters. Of course you need a little imagination to not stay on track like broken locomotive.

Sub-Zero being turn into cyborg was a good idea that made borderline marty sue into interesting character once again. And opened new possibilites for the development.

Yuor opinion about Cyber Smoke is completely your opinion. He was never interesting character as a cyborg and only thing that he had for him was ocean of angst. Besides that there was nothing.

@ RedSumac

I have already said that the story is not going to stay the same in my last post. I was simply debunking your argument saying it could stay the same, like my argument on the armor, which you just argued that things aren't going to say the same against me, like that's something I didn't know???

Also, by the cyborgs helping Sektor take leadership of the Lin Kuei in his ending I'm assuming everyone is already cyborgs at this point, so you saying Sub-Zero would want to go back and make sure his comrades don't become cyborgs is kind of out the door too.

Also in your last arguments you proved why I shouldn't try to even level with you. You insulted me once again saying that me liking cyber smoke is completely my own opinion, and basically said my opinion is stupid and I should just learn to deal with change and that cyber smoke sucked, which is completely YOUR opinion. Also you say that all smoke had going for him was an ocean of angst, which is basically anxiety, dread, and depression. The anxiety part I don't get, but the dread and depression parts are Smoke being defined as a character. He was the one you feel sorry for, the one who always had a little hope to look too. He doesn't even have that now.

Also you saying Sub-Zero's old story sucked and was on marty sue territory is also YOUR opinion. Obviously a lot of people didn't like him being turned cyber and didn't like the story in general so you could say that's majority opinion. Now, I will go back to ignoring you because as I've said before you are not worth arguing with.

It's not neccesary that all Lin Kuei members will be automated. Not everyone in the Tekunin clan were cyborgs. So it's safe to assume that not every single member of the Lin Kuei will be converted into cyber ninja.
And Sektor's ending show some human ninjas, besides cyber ones.

I didn't insult you - I just stated that your opinion is your opinion. Whatever you saw there is fully your interpretation, that have nothing to do with what I wanted to say originally. In short - take breath and relax. Seeing insults everywhere is a bad habit.

And about your idea of Cyber Smoke...
So angst is a character defining point? I don't know how about you, but I don't want to have a character that has only one single defining point and nothing beside it. Such character is one-dimensional and boring. I felt sorry for him in MK3. In MKD his part as Noob's slave was somewhat forced and in the end there was no progress with him whatsoever. He was basically reduced to the scrappy. And no one remembered him, even his best friend Sub-Zero.
MK9 Smoke has defined character traits. Something that Smoke in OT practically never had. So, by default Smoke MK9 is much more interesting character with more potential, then his previous incarnation.

I never said Sub-Zero story sucked. You need to learn to read properly.
I said that he wabrodering on the marty sue territory in the later games, what's with all upgrades and generally meaningless presence in the storyline. And I din't see majority who didn't like the story. I saw some long time disappointed fans here, but not big outcry size of the internet, that story was bad. Even here some people support it, so your majority is very shaky term.

I'd tryed to talk with you from logical position using arguments. Instead of something meaningfull all I get were mostly fanboish delusions and childish tantrums. Grow up, the you maybe will worth my time. Bye.

Yes they were. Of course they were. Why would you even say that?

Off course you can proove it.
Tekunin technicians in the MKA didn't look like cyborgs, nor they didn't act like machines.