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unseenwombat
03/23/2011 05:30 PM (UTC)
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Hatetriot Wrote:
drpvfx Wrote:

My money's on billowy. It's hard enough to make good-looking wispy smoke using non-realtime methods- limited to sprites as games are, billowy is the only option that won't look like crap.


Why wouldn't you be able to use realtime methods in this game?
If they did, don't you think Raiden's projectile would look different? And the long hair?
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03/23/2011 05:33 PM (UTC)
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Hatetriot Wrote:
drpvfx Wrote:

My money's on billowy. It's hard enough to make good-looking wispy smoke using non-realtime methods- limited to sprites as games are, billowy is the only option that won't look like crap.


Why wouldn't you be able to use realtime methods in this game?


I think you misunderstood-
I was saying it's hard enough to make wispy smoke using very computationally intense fluid dynamics, which is not even close to being realtime yet.
The game has to rely on technologies that *can* be used realtime, usually sprites. It's *much* easier to make billowy smoke with sprites.
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Hatetriot
03/23/2011 05:37 PM (UTC)
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unseenwombat Wrote:If they did, don't you think Raiden's projectile would look different? And the long hair?


In regards to the hair I just chalk it up to NRS not knowing how to do hair physics very well.

drpvfx Wrote:
I think you misunderstood-
I was saying it's hard enough to make wispy smoke using very computationally intense fluid dynamics, which is not even close to being realtime yet.
The game has to rely on technologies that *can* be used realtime, usually sprites. It's *much* easier to make billowy smoke with sprites.


Ok, I got it now.
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03/23/2011 05:47 PM (UTC)
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I'm pretty stoked for this! Really hope that's Smoke!
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ZeeDoctor
03/23/2011 06:30 PM (UTC)
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The design kind of remind me of David Bowie...
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RazorsEdge701
03/23/2011 06:50 PM (UTC)
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lol, I KNEW it was reminding me of something.

But I kept wanting to say "One of those super-clichéd snobbish, aristocratic vampires."

I guess evil wizard works just as well as vampire.
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jeebus
03/23/2011 06:56 PM (UTC)
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It's been bugging me who he reminded me of and I finally figured it out...the villain from Hellboy 2! finally got the image to work. i feel somewhat adequate again. yay!
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Manneen
03/23/2011 07:05 PM (UTC)
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I know someone already posted this, but it reminds me of Alucard.

Alucard's awesome.
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RocketBoy
03/23/2011 07:06 PM (UTC)
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Raiden or Smoke, I don't care. All I know is that is not a dragon.
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Remonster
03/23/2011 07:10 PM (UTC)
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RocketBoy Wrote:
Raiden or Smoke, I don't care. All I know is that is not a dragon.


What do you think the bottom image is then?
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jeebus
03/23/2011 07:13 PM (UTC)
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I was thinking, that dragon thing could be those flying bastards in the graveyard or originally in the kombat tomb. just a thought. I think its a cool design, would like to see what it ends up being. There are all kinds of monsters in the backgrounds now (which I dig, I always liked mk's intricate backgrounds with lots going on) like the demon in the jax/baraka photo, the tormentors or the 3-headed sheep in scorpion's lair...could be another one of those
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Manneen
03/23/2011 07:14 PM (UTC)
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Remonster Wrote:
RocketBoy Wrote:
Raiden or Smoke, I don't care. All I know is that is not a dragon.


What do you think the bottom image is then?


It doesn't look like Liu Kang's dragon, to me at least.
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03/23/2011 07:23 PM (UTC)
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Hooky-Fooky Wrote:
Remonster Wrote:
RocketBoy Wrote:
Raiden or Smoke, I don't care. All I know is that is not a dragon.


What do you think the bottom image is then?


It doesn't look like Liu Kang's dragon, to me at least.


unless they went for an entirely new design, which I can understand.
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03/23/2011 07:36 PM (UTC)
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Remonster Wrote:
RocketBoy Wrote:
Raiden or Smoke, I don't care. All I know is that is not a dragon.


What do you think the bottom image is then?


Maybe one of those flying creatures from the Kombat Tomb?
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RocketBoy
03/23/2011 07:37 PM (UTC)
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Remonster Wrote:
Hooky-Fooky Wrote:
Remonster Wrote:
RocketBoy Wrote:
Raiden or Smoke, I don't care. All I know is that is not a dragon.


What do you think the bottom image is then?


It doesn't look like Liu Kang's dragon, to me at least.


unless they went for an entirely new design, which I can understand.


An entirely new design that turns dragons in raptors? I sure hope not.
I like it,can't wait to see quality version without battle damage.
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KiShiDo
03/23/2011 07:53 PM (UTC)
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And can't wait till we will get a Smoke theme for this site without Noob in it
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03/23/2011 07:58 PM (UTC)
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It looks good. I can't wait to see the normal non-Battle damage look before I make up my mind.

As for the Grey/White hair its possible since:
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He was sacrificed as an infant and became an enenra before regaining his human form. The Grey Hair could be a result of the sacrifice.


Or it could be that they didn't color in his hair yet.

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That's what I was thinking, that would be a nice "scar" if true. An everlasting effect from being sacrificed.

If this is Smoke's look, I would not be against it. In fact it's growing on me more and more. Watch it be a random background.
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KeenanBoots
03/23/2011 08:15 PM (UTC)
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If that is Smoke I hope he looks like Geralt from The Witcher.
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Cyborg
03/23/2011 08:18 PM (UTC)
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Smoke will have spiked black hair, not long white hair.
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03/23/2011 08:56 PM (UTC)
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you guys are sad. Does anyone actually know what human smoke looked like? Are you sure this is a huge departure?

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The new plot says he's from Prague, so a pale european white guy with long hair makes total sense.


He's wearing an all black body suit with the same big grey shoulder strap / vest deal that all the other non-ermac ninjas wear now. It just looks wacky because its a shitty pic and he's got full battle damage on. And he has salty grey hair, because he's a goddamned grey ninja. Do you want yet another character with blonde or black hair?





It isn't a matter of course that he would have long white hair when he is from Europe. Anyone from around the globe can have long white hair, it has nothing to do with the race. Besides, there are lots of people with different skin tones in Europe, not only pale-skinned.

I for one am not complaining about Smoke's new looks though I am a bit surprised and would have expected Smoke to see a positively stunning overhaul in looks like they did with Noob Saibot.

The hair's background lies in the fact that Smoke was a spirit more likely. We have actually got no blonde ninjas and at the current state we have only one blonde fighter in the whole series i.e. Sonya Blade.
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03/23/2011 09:01 PM (UTC)
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It's been said before, but it could easily be an alt.
None of the other male Ninja have their hair exposed in their primaries.
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stinky_thc_cloud
03/23/2011 09:02 PM (UTC)
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Lol how are they changing the philosphy of a character if wev never seen his face? Good lord people theres an alt and the classic stop bitching I gaurentee the alt will be more of a ninja and if not then u have the classic ninja.

GOOD GOD people.

U want him to be a ninja use the the ninja costume i dont know why its so difficult to understand this.
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stinky_thc_cloud
03/23/2011 09:09 PM (UTC)
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also its not like you guys didnt see this comming. Did you really think when they announced human smoke he was going to look similar to scorp and sub (the only ones who still retain some classic mk 1-3 ninja vibe)

Scorpion and sub will likely always keep there look theylle be easy to identify. Were done with the days of oo thats the grey scrop or grey ninjas. Scorp and sub and the only "ninjas" two is enough and u want another.

I get it oooo hes old. hes lame i wanna play as bald badass. you people are in love with these characters.

If they made scorpion or reptile (reptile as some bearded lizard would actually be cool and scorp is already dead) old geezers (which hes clearly not he just has white hair) i wouldnt be freaking out like you guys.


You were all hoping for your own design in your head, that dosent exsist. Sorry to break it to you guys but your not nrs.
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thisiscourage
03/23/2011 09:14 PM (UTC)
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i hope thats a really beat up sindel.. lol
but the battle damage is not going to be his actual costume thats stupid. they have to model every character with the battle damage they could possibly recieve during a fight. that is a character who has been in a battle already.

If that is smoke.. i am not digging the long hair at all. (mostly because they have sucked with hair)
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