*Virtua

You're welcome.

Thanx.

Some people immaturely and purposely say things that may offend an MK fan. Others who still love the game and franchise give constructive criticism and ideas are mostly those who focus on the fighting mechanics of fighting games.

I've been an MK fan sice day one (which would be when MK1 was in this bowling alley and being completely oblivious to its existence I stumbled upon it at the age of 6 or 7, to make a long story short). Yet I wish that they had not changed MK when MK:DA was released. I do not like the fighting mechanics in todays MK series. 3 combo breakers? Pits that kill you in the 1st round? Getting Boon to put pits BACK in the series? That kinda stuff makes me wonder..

Yes, I think Tekken and Dead or Alive have better fighting. Look at the fluid animation in Dead or Alive.. you have to blind not to want such in MK. This doesn't mean I hate MK's moves, they just are so limited. We also have to consider that MK has always been 2D, and he transition a team has to make is probably tough. Tekken and the like were born 3D fighters. Hopefully "3rd times' a charm" for the 4th 3D MK.

There are two types of people on this site: fans and fanboys.
Fanboys are those that like Mortal Kombat so much that their own ignorance blinds them to the fact that the game isn't perfect, and they blatantly deny any and all possible mistakes and glitches that the game may have.
-e.g. Professer, outworld222, and other unmentioned.
Fans are those that truly like Mortal Kombat, and like it so much that they are willing to accept the game isn't perfect, and do what they can to see the game progress, even if that means comparing them to other fighters.
-e.g. yours truly, Grimm, TheSoulOfErmac, m2dave, KenshiMaster16, WingsOfRedemption, FL and other unmentioned.

If you have been keeping track in my posts,you would have known i hated MK deception,there are some stupid people in this world and you sweetie,is one of them.

I think, they should have plenty of room in the media for the nextgen consoles to do both, quantity and quality. Also they should bring back animalities but realistic. And they should make the fatalities a little longer. All characters and engine should improve more like make the characters look real. Get rid of that combo breaker and make combos better. 3 fatalities per character or more because thats a big part of the series and we all love them. Have cinematics endings. Throw in more secrets and hidden characters to make things more interesting. And please take your time so that all those little elements would work fine.............

Changing the subject a little i will like to see an mk vs ....... game maybe since midway owns wargods take that series and give a facelift and bring it back vs mk. That could be another mk game......................some of those wargods characters were cool too, too bad the game didnt do that good but a make over might work.....

if you want my opinion, this is mosty form a story-line propective..the one being is probaly one bad dude..and it's gonna take every card in the deck to just stand a snowball's chance agest him.

my guess is that everyone in the mk universe is gonna be called in, and almost everyone's gonna be waging war with the one being, good or bad.


in other words, this looks like it might be..the end.

*are one of them.

Enough is enough. Just shut up. Plain and simple. I'm not flaming anyone, I'm back on topic. As should you be.

And if you hate Deception, you ought to find another site.

No, a MK vs (blank) game wouldn't be right. Games like that usually mark a series' demise, and MK still has plenty left in it. And even then, most fans would think of that as an uncreative alternative by Boon, instead of just improving the fighting engine, etc.

But yes, I do agree that the next-gens have the capacity to do both quality and quantity, but the question is whether Midway has that capacity.

hey genious, its 'womb', not wound. second of all.... SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! is this thread called "COME HERE AND FLAME MY ASS"? no! it is a damn NEWSTHREAD! with NEWS!!! and for the last two or three pages, all I have seen is bullshit about BULLSHIT!!! so sit down AND SHUT UP if you have nothing CONSTRUCTIVE to say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This guy Scorpio2...

Why?
"I don't like those games 'cause they suck"
Why do they suck? What don't you like about them?
I'm just a guy trying to find out the whys of things Scorpio2.

By the Elder Gods!!!!!! thisis the funniest thread i've read in my life!
And i thought Scorpio2 made one those posts.... Damn that was just the 1st page!
I don't spend too much time reading this kind of stuff much less posting, but there's a time to go on a forum such as this and that's when somethings wrong with the shit like. And, for now i don't like MK. I used to like MK, i used to play nothing but MK, when MK was good!
I started playing MK when the the first came out, i was about 2... NOPE! sorry just cheked my ID card, i was 17! Anyway, I played MK non stop for like 6 months, nearly everyday, then waited patiently and played MK2 non-stop for another 6 months or so. Then VF came out and i gave it a try, but still played MK. Then Tekken came out and i gave it a try and still played MK more. Then one day, when playing Tekken 1 Anna (Nina's boss) broke my arm in a Multi-Throw thingy and i stopped and said: WOW! This is some serious shit! I still played a lot of MK3, a little bit less UMK3 and actually bought my 1st PS 'cause i wanted to have MK Trilogy. That is a fact. However by then i'd forgotten about VF (I can't bring myself to disagree with ppl when they say it sucks - sorry VF fans) and i eventually sold MK Trilogy. Played a few times MK4 and even felt the urge to get a ??Gamecube?? so i could play MKGold. No enough foolishness. Was there anything left in MK that was really captivgating? Shittier Combo system than MK3 (and CO), shittier characters (Reiko, Jarek even Tanya), inferior gameplay compared to the time's Tekken and VF, what?! 3D Fatalities????
They were the same ones from previous games only polygon style with crappy animations! Finally MKDA was coming out and since i'd been in the forums and had stumbled upon news on MK (which honestly i thought was dead and buried) got all my hopes up because i felt that 17 old boy's excitment again. Went and bought it and enjoyed it a lot but kept being beaten by my brother who occasionaly played in the arcade and was more into non-fighting games! OK, i suck ass after all these years playing, i thought. Then, again through forums like these, stumbled upon all that Frame Advantage/Disadvantage thing and it cought up with me!! I'm trying my best but my best is not enough 'cause there's a lot of shit that actually doesn't work well!!! No fast jabs, no ducking under high moves, useless moves... So ot was the gameplay! That's why i could kick anyone's ass in Tekken, but not on MKDA! some stuff i was taking for granted wasn't there. Again, expected MKD anxiously and didn't even have buy it 'cause my university held an MKD tournament b4 it came out! Won that shit and the game for free, which i know now was very rewarding 'cause it would be money out the window. So here i am today, hardcore fan of Tekken (i play 5 a lot these days), didn't buy Tekken 4 because it sucked ass big time like any Tekken fan will eventually confirm, and i own these 2 pitiful disgraces that are MKDA and MKD (gameplay-wise and that alone) and i probably own MK7 (the real thing - not an internet bullshit pirate copy - as the rest) and i'll go even further: What if MK7 is a Tekken with fatalities?! ARE YOU GONNA BE SCARED LITTLE BOYS?! DON'T FRET 'CAUSE IT AIN'T GONN A HAPPEN! NO MK GAME WILL EVER GET TO THE LEVEL OF TEKKEN FOR THERE ARE TOO MANY "PROFESSERS" BEHIND THE GAMING INDUSTRY NOT JUST POSTING ON THESE FORUMS!
Do you think me as a true MK fan????????
Having that said, i got my fingers crossed hoping that the next one is a threat to the competition.

PS- I am 29 years old and i'm back in University taking a computer games development degree because i love nothing better than games (that and the big bucks) and that's what i want to do with my life, so the posting on these forums about what's wrong with gameplay and making comparisons with other games is what this industry is becoming and again i'll have to mention Tekken because when Namco launched T4 they fucked up and that damaged their income but they did the smart move and listened to the criticism and are back on their feet bigger than ever with Tekken 5! They fucked up but to compensate me, the buyer, delivered something twice as better to make up!
That's how a company's run!

Peace, biatxezz!

You're an idiot.

I dont like this..... I think they wont innovate... too many characters....

I want them to build MK from the ground up. 2 years is not enough.

Umm.... Well it looks like some one is high on dope tonight,why would i leave for? I said i hated Mortal Kombat Deception not Mortal Kombat overall.God,i got to remember not to talk to dickless pimple face idiots who jerks-off every time he correcs my spelling on the internet anymore

To my knowledge I don't believe that MKGold was ever released for Gamecube. Perhaps you mean Dreamcast?

*what would I leave for?
*corrects
*pimple-faced

I am high on dope, didn't know you could smell it from there. Just don't tell.

You've got issues and conflicts that extend far beyond this website. Just by your mere presence, you've ruined the quality of this topic. You're not even good enough to be a fanboy. I don't have much to say to you, because as the saying goes.......

............never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.



Kwizard, the next-gen systems more than have the capacity to have many characters and a quality engine. But like I said in a previous post, it all depends whether Midway has that capacity.

Hi fans is it official will johnny cage be back in mk7? because in my opinion johnny cage is of the best characters in the MK universe and he should have never been taken out of any MK game

I skipped a few posts, but from something I read on here about now having the next Gen systems to work on.


They have the hardware capacity to do both quality and quantity, but do they have the ability or time?

It doesn't matter if they have the most powerful game system to work on. If they don't know how to design a good fight engine it doesn't matter, it's still going to be weak.

If they don't have the time to do all the quantity, it doesn't matter how much space the system has, the time restriction is still going to keep one of the 2 from happening correctly, the quantity or quality.


This is logic


If they are going to do both, they are going to have to take short cuts on something. Preferably on the quantity.

For example, they could have a ton of fighters in the game, but have a pretty good number of them be like new costumes with different powers.

Have the same basic fighting style, just change the fireballs on them.

Sort of like in Tekken 5, how Eddy Gordo is a costume swap for Christie Monteiro.

This way, they can work on quality and do as much quantity as possible without hurting the quality of the game play.


It's still half assing, but you can't have it both ways. Not unless they take an extra long time to work on the game.

I guess another way around it would be to have a sort of create a fighter mode but with a bunch of unused MK characters. This way, the developers don't have to waste so much time making every fighter. They would just make a decent character creation mode and just let the player do some of the work.

Actually, I think this would work out pretty well.

My point exactly.

Well, if Ed Boon and the MK team would just spend time and go into detail with every little thing. Deception seemed so rushed. I don't mind waiting 2 or 3 years for another MK. Just make it good.

My first thought when I read about the large roster was "Oh right on lots of characters thats great!" but that was quickly replaced by "Oh crap this sounds like Trilogy!"(which was crap IMO, it was just all thrown together and the game seemed sloppy) I realized that the fighting engine was probably not going to get worked on at all. I hope that I'm being paranoid and that the engine will get revamped completely, but I have to admit after the last couple releases (MKDA, MKD) I have my doubts.

I'm a huge MK fan dispite being let down by the last few MK games. With that said I hate to piss on MK but... when compared to other fighing games out there MK falls short in almost evey aspect. Right now the only thing MK has on the other fighting games is storyline and blood. Those are both nice but the heart of a proper fighting game is it's engine and without that you have nothing. Tekken, VF, SC, and DOA all have superior fighting engines. I think that Boon and Co need to look at those games if they want to improve MK.

A lot of ignorant Mk fans will argue that I want the game to be Tekken-MK. That's not true...I just want to play an MK game and be proud of it rather then disapointed. Also It would be nice to be able to argue that MK is the best fighting game (which at the moment... it's far from).

I have been a fan of mk since the day it came into the arcades and untill umk3 i played it a LOT. Then MK4 came out and it kinda sucked but i still played it (although i played mktrilogy more.

Then i started playing tekken and LOVED it but still it wasn't MK.

Then I was so happy to learn that there was going to be an mk5 but jezuss when it came out i played it made sure i got all the characters and then never touched it again.

Then MK6 came out and although it was a huge improvement it still had the same CRAPfighting system. Now I don't play 3d Mortal kombat anymore because the moves and combos suck and i hate to say this as an mk fan .

I mean they raped the characters and the new ones suck. One more thing i don't understand does sub zero(for example ) have problems with his memory because he now has less moves than in MK3 so WTF.
The combos are dull and always the same and MK is too slow now.
I also liked the motion capturing and the photorealsistic graphics in 2d MK and now the characters look like they are made from silicone especially the clothes.

Since MK 5 and 6 came out i was sooo disappointed but then i found MAME on the internet so now i actually play the old classics again online against others and i must say even though they are simple games the gameplay rocks.

So BOON for us old school fans make a classic edition of MK(not MK7) with the same gameplay but newer graphics and new moves. I just want the UMK/MK2 gameplay(and controls) but much more expanded.

I know many of you will not agree with this but i don't care since every one can have his own opinion.

a-freakin-men!