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02/02/2007 01:40 AM (UTC)
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Ah the classic "remove the strongest good guys (Raiden and Liu Kang)" technique.

It's good to see that Johnny's character is becoming more developed as well as others like Nightwolf. Let's face it, with Raiden and Liu Kang team in the previous games saving the world, everyone else had been basically neglected or shunted aside. With those two out of the way temporarily, it allows the other minor characters to develop in personality and even called some to take the leadership role.

Still it'll be a great shock to the good guys to find Raiden actually in working with Shinnok. And most likely they'll have to take him on. Personally I hope Fujin knocks some sense into him. HYAH! tongue
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02/02/2007 01:45 AM (UTC)
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I think Shinnok has been sending Cage these visions in order for him to gather the forces of light for the armageddon battle. Shinnok is masterminding their destruction. Shinnok probably sent his doppleganger or allowed himself to be easily defeated so that Johnny Cage would go back and tell the others.
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02/02/2007 02:00 AM (UTC)
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I don't like how they made Cage sound all superficial - "me me me." I was hoping they'd develop him beyond that. It even sounds like he's kind of jealous of Liu Kang - I don't like that. It's dumb to me.

I much prefer the depth he got in MKT and MK4. But, storyline wise, it's good to see him actually doing something important. I'm actually kind of hoping we see more of him in the future now.
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02/02/2007 02:02 AM (UTC)
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i bet everyone it is his doppleganger! His doppleganger is weaker, and he did that on purpose so that if complications occured he could kill it! I almost am sure that its that!
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02/02/2007 02:07 AM (UTC)
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Interesting bio indeed, what I'd like to know is this.Cage's visions....are they legit or set up?

I think it's legit honestly, one of those" you've always been a follower with comic relief" kind of warriors.Now it's time for something serious to happen to his storyline in general.

I'm really curious to see how his bio plays out, awesome bio.
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02/02/2007 02:08 AM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
Interesting bio indeed, what I'd like to know is this.Cage's visions....are they legit or set up?

I think it's legit honestly, one of those" you've always been a follower with comic relief" kind of warriors.Now it's time for something serious to happen to his storyline in general.

I'm really curious to see how his bio plays out, awesome bio.


If the visions are legit, then it's kind of farfetched as it seems very out of the blue.
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02/02/2007 02:18 AM (UTC)
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I agree. Shinnok is sending him those visions on purpose, knowing that Cage will lead the Forces of Light to where the Darkness wants them. I think that user up there had a point.
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02/02/2007 03:05 AM (UTC)
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It's possible Shinnok could be sending those visions as the user above stated. After all, in Raiden sent Nightwolf visions and thus drew him into the Mortal Kombat tournament in the previous games. Most likely it was a god that sent Johnny those vision, whether it be Raiden, Shinnok, or Fujin.
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02/02/2007 03:20 AM (UTC)
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Does anyone remember fighting Shinnok in MKM or MK4? The guy was a pushover! The weakest boss in the entire series! Johnny could take that guy and deliver mass Ownage all over his sorry ass! grin
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02/02/2007 04:00 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
Interesting bio indeed, what I'd like to know is this.Cage's visions....are they legit or set up?

I think it's legit honestly, one of those" you've always been a follower with comic relief" kind of warriors.Now it's time for something serious to happen to his storyline in general.

I'm really curious to see how his bio plays out, awesome bio.


If the visions are legit, then it's kind of farfetched as it seems very out of the blue.


That's true, but then again so is Cage's character becoming serious all of a sudden all together lol.Know what I mean?

Can't wait to find out either way.smile
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02/02/2007 04:03 AM (UTC)
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Johnny Cage the hero? Please!!! It's nice he's finally gettine serious, but I mean c'mon. I can't picture him leading the goodsode. Sonya fits that role better than him, but of course she's probably trying to fight Kano, Mavado and Co. along with her bitch, I mean partner Jax.

I thought Fujin would fill Raiden's role while Kung Lao and/or Kai would fill Lui Kang's.
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02/02/2007 04:03 AM (UTC)
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I really liked it....It goes with the whole turning everything on it's head direction...

Liu Kang dead...Raiden evil...Johnny Cage a serious force to recognize...


It's great cuz Cage has been seen as a joke and not to be taken seriously and here he has become Earth Realm's Hero....It's cool.

I like it....but I hope Raiden turns good, again....


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02/02/2007 05:13 AM (UTC)
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As soon as I finished reading the bio, I thought the visions were orchestrated.

Johnny Cage is good. He's one of the best fighters in the series. However, he's never really been respected since his "death of Johnny Cage" fiasco.

As it is, he's stepping up to a new role and doing so very effectively. Personally, I think he's being manipulated (after all, the villains are great at doing that), and that he, a guy with no real history of visions or spiritual power, suddenly developing this trait is... interesting, and I don't think it's an afterthought. There's something to that, either pertaining to him, or to someone else sending the visions to them.

I'll agree too that Shinnok, while he's hardly the strong god he once was (just look at Konquest mode in MK:A, and watch him get his rear handed to him by Li Mei), I think he was holding back, boosting Johnny's ego, and orchestrating things behind the scenes.

Still, Johnny's a major player here, and that's refreshing, seeing as how he's been such a pushover, after-thought character before.
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02/02/2007 05:21 AM (UTC)
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reppy Wrote:
Does anyone remember fighting Shinnok in MKM or MK4? The guy was a pushover! The weakest boss in the entire series! Johnny could take that guy and deliver mass Ownage all over his sorry ass! grin


MKM Shinnok > Other Bosses > MK4/Gold Shinnok...
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02/02/2007 06:03 AM (UTC)
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Wow...ummm... Let's see here.

Somebody is fuckin with this dudes head. I mean, he's been such the pansy for so long.

1. I think Shinnok is jackin with the dudes head.
2. He can't beat Shinnok, I don't even understand why that thought is being entertained. Jonny would have a tremendous amount of trouble with even a doppleganger of Shinnok.

3. Jonny Cage is almost the least threatneing, least serious of all the characters in the Mk Universe. Now you're psycic leader?...NOW?!? LmaO.

4. I am actually glad he's gotten serious about Something in his life, but it's so farfetched it just seems silly now that we have this bio here.


Man....All the shovanistic, self centered shit still makes up this characters persona....Please don't be fooled as or poor Jonny Cage is right now.

UInfortunately here was my last thought of this bio:

Jonny Cage = Shujinko......but worse cuz JC's not a kid when he starts being decieved. Trickery like no other man...Jonny is not that leader type dude.

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02/02/2007 06:19 AM (UTC)
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To Garlador: I do think it was a part of Shinnok's test for Taven to get Taven to "help" him.


I do think that was an illisuion Li Mei.



To ThePredator: At least Shunjiko's POV, he didn't know he was manipulated until the end.




There is a major difference between PC's POV and Player's POV.



From the Player's POV, we knew that he was being decieved.



Comes to Johnny Cage, I will not comment for I haven't found him that interesting.
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02/02/2007 06:29 AM (UTC)
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Im loving these bios! I hope they're in the Wii version.
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02/02/2007 06:43 AM (UTC)
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Whoo hoo go Cage cool bio... cus its about cage... yeah i do think it might have been shinnok sending the visions, and i do think cage couldve kicked shinnoks ass, doppleganger or non-doppleganger.... lol cos cage is cool...
and its getting more possible for cage to return in MK8 :D..... but still lil' chance.

PS: dont know if anyone else noticed but you cant copy the whole bio for this one, you can only copy the text and headshot.................... gay.glasses
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02/02/2007 06:43 AM (UTC)
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Shinnok sends Quan Chi to take over Kahn's fortress? If Kahn is there expect Quan chi to return to shinnok in a Casket if Kahn is even in his throne room


Dude, didn't you play konquest? Shao Kahn, Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Shinnok, Raiden, and Onaga formed an alliance until everyone runs to the top of the pyramid then they turn on eachother.
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02/02/2007 07:05 AM (UTC)
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Shinnok probably picked Johnny Cage for his brashness and arrogance as a target for these visions.

Chances are a mentally more powerful warrior like Sub-Zero or Nightwolf could resist Shinnok's powers.

Cage is the perfect pick.
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02/02/2007 08:40 AM (UTC)
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I'm a bit deceived by his bio... It don't explain how Cage was liberated from Onagas influence, or where these visions come from... :/
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02/02/2007 11:14 AM (UTC)
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Just giving my 2 cents. Here goes.

Cage being the leader type: Ok this is classic unlikely suuporting character stepping up to the plate. IMO he just thinks hes leading the good guys when in reality he's just gathering them. It's the arrogant actor thing.

Cage having "visions": Ok this might be somebody influencing him in some way. It's completely possible. My opinion is he is really having them. He stated that he thought it was dreams so it's safe to say he had them while asleep. I read somwhere that everyone is capable of precognative dreams and you could be a kid or a elderly person when they manifest.

Cage defeating Shinnok: Lets see...well he could have but it's very unlikely. Shinnok probably had better things to do and thought "I don't have time for this" and teleported out. It could also be his doppelganger which I think it is and the doppelganger had the same thought.

On Quan Chi and Shinnok's Alliance: No surprise really. Somebody asked how Quan could be back. Here's my take. He did "die" in Raiden's blast, was sent back to the Netherrealm in his original form, weakened. Shinnok found him and gave him his strength back and renewed the alliance. Also I think Shinnok freed Onaga from his restraints that Nightwolf layed down. Could be Quan Chi to but he was busy doing other things. Shinnok was working predominantly in the Netherrealm.

I really like this bio. It shows that Cage is a arrogant d*ck with good intentions. I truely the feeling that it's Johnny Cage is telling his story . *EDIT* Here's the bio in jpg form. I don't know if somebody has done this, anyway enjoy. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Mortanius60/JohnnyCageBio.jpg
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02/02/2007 11:39 AM (UTC)
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excuse for be late in the second post...
1)for Xiandhou: ahaha you're right,pal!But you forget about their rivarly in MK1 (the game).Also the movie can change the caonicity of a event(and i remeber also a special pack of toys where you can buy Cage and Goro for their epical fight).Midway also done a screen menu with a pic of JC and Goro,so in a way or other they have a feud.
And at least goro can be mentiond?
2)for me JC is the best chaacter to fit in the role of male protagounist for nexyt gen games:he's idiot,and we know that a idiot character (however he have to improve during time!smile) is the best main hero for a saga.
don't you find the classic stereotipical hero(Liu Kang,Kung Lao,etc) boring?
Kenshi,mSonya and JC deserves to be the main heroes for mk8!
And i've noticed that Cage isn't that stupid,so he's improving.
3)Cage vs Shinnok: in normal days Shinnok should open Cage's body like a case,but did you forget that Johnny was possessed by the Dragon King.We don't know if Onaga leave some of his power into Cage body.
And you'll will say:but also Kung Lao,Kitana,Jax and Sonya were possessed by Onaga!?!".
I'll answer then" Yeah,but Cage discovers his power before others,or maybe JC was the more lucky of the five,'cause he can be the only one to have onaga's power!"
Shinnokj without his medallion is nothing...
and they haven't a real fight:just a shadow kick isn't enugh to defeat a opponent.so shinnok camn be run away for catching the bus.
4)JC one of the weakest characters?
WTF!do you forget ythat alongside Sonya and Liu Kang he was choosen by Raiden himself?
Kung lao,Kitana,Sub Zero,Jax,Stryker,Nightwolf,etc weren't choosen by raiden,but then accepted in the team.
But the main heroes were,are and will be JC,Sonya and Liu Kang.The other have a secondary role,untile DA,when Midway have the brilliant idea to put Kung lao instead of Liu kang.
8)JC jaelus of Liu kang?(that is Kung Lao!!!!).
Arrogant and vane?yes,but not in this bio,i haven't noticed a single prhase where he claim himself,except for the final one when he think to be the LEADER.

he is not the leader,he is a idiot,and why he is my favourite character!!!!
a good example why JC is a good character for development and other thing is
Peter jackson Bad taste,in that movie the characters were idiots,but they were also perfect heroes!
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02/02/2007 01:58 PM (UTC)
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DK1983 Wrote:
I'm a bit deceived by his bio... It don't explain how Cage was liberated from Onagas influence, or where these visions come from... :/
DK1983 Wrote:
I'm a bit deceived by his bio... It don't explain how Cage was liberated from Onagas influence, or where these visions come from... :/


For the "liberation", it's explained in Kitana MKU's BIOS.

And for the "visions", if someone other (like Shinnok) sending him his visions, it's obviously that Cage didn't know, and can't appear in his bios. It's like Dark Raiden, he didn't know if someone other make him "darker", and then this thing can't appear in his bios...
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02/02/2007 02:25 PM (UTC)
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****Damn the MkTeam for not having the bios in the game!!!!!!
****Damn the MkTeam for this new type of text bios you cant fully save in your PC!!!!
****Now with that said:


A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!!!

Johnny Cage has, without a doubt, finally evolved.

The entire bio was well written, and it was exactly like I expected to hear him “speak”. Its definitely awesome to see that the psychic abilities and the Shinnok confrontation (though too short sadly) are in fact true.

Im in love with the way he was presented, but I feel his bio gave us more questions then answers. There are a few things I dislike though, here is my take on all:

* Johnny Cage jealous of Liu Kang?:

No way, it doesn’t even sound like that. Its actually a bit stupid if this was the case considering they decided to make the Kung Lao the jealous one. In no part of the bio does it seem like he is jealous, he is giving an introduction to later support the part that says: “But times have changed”.

* The Visions: Real or Fake?

Real: He developed them by some outer cause that is yet to be explained.
Fake: He is being tricked by Shinnok or some other evil character.

Im honestly not sure if his psychic abilities are plotted in the bio to really help him or trick him. It could be Shinnok himself sending this vision, but I doubt it, it suits more this “new light of Johnny Cage” to have the bios be a real development of his character, even if the Elder Gods are the ones providing them for some reason.

All I can say is that, its perfect. People complained about Cages stale storyline, well, he is finally going somewhere different now, somewhere new, so like it or not, I believe the psychic powers is a nice addition, and suits the occasion just perfectly.

I love how he traveled different distances to discover what was Shinnok up to, and it was also cool to see him finding clues that supported his visions. I love how they have made Shinnok the “main” bad guy of the story, that’s what I wanted for MKA.

* Shinnok-Quan Chi VS Kahns fortress

Now here something to think about. Im not sure if I like this though...Shinnok trusting Quan Chi again (even if its for his best benefits) seems a bit weak, specially for Quan Chi who is back where he started now.

And also, why on Shang Tsungs island??? Could there be a bit more depth there?

* Johnny Cage VS Shinnok:

YAY!!!!......wait......WTF???.....wait.....a small “Yay” now.

Honestly, I was disappointed. I expected a longer more brutal battle. Doppelganger or not, it would had rocked to see these two into a more brutal fight.

I don’t know why some people assume Johnny Cage is weak and unable of fighting a force like Shinnok or Shang Tsung for example. He is after all a chosen hero, and did fight and played a crucial role in the preservation of the realms, he wasn’t there just looking pretty.

Johnny Cage is perfectly capable of fighting this sort of evil force, and he has his chances of winning, but of course, I do agree he can also be defeated, but not easily. Years in Mk proves it.

* Not Arrogant at all:

Honestly, theres no part in this bio that screams: “Me, Me, Me”. Of course its about Johnny Cage, but even he stated how he needs the help of his friends and how he cant do it alone. I just LOVE this phrase:

“I seem to have discovered the next great threat to Earthrealm. Now I need to find the others. I'll need their help if I'm going to defeat Shinnok's forces. The fate of Earthrealm depends on me.”

Just awesome! And very accurate, the fate of Earthrealm (and the other realms if you think about it) does depend on him , its Johnny Cage the one who knows about this new threat, and thanks to him the other characters are being reunited, thanks to him the other characters are now aware of the sudden menace that was being planned against them and the worlds, thanks to Johnny Cage, there could still be a chance to stop Armageddon.

* What I really didn’t like at all or would had loved to see:

- No depth whatsoever about the Onaga killing, resurrection and release. It sucks to see this in the characters, Vogel did mess things up by killing them all and getting them back just like if nothing happened. Its boring and not deep at all. I hate this. No deeper mention about that incident and how it affected them.

- The small Shinnok fight. Should had been longer.

- No real mention of his comrades. How are things between him and the other un-slaved heroes? I was really hoping he would get some sort of dialogue in his bio with Sonya. I really want this two to get together and be a couple. Its time.

- Though not really important to me, it would had been cool, like someone else said, to have some sort of light in the “Goro” thing/confrontation. The team has practically screamed to us that there is a rivalry and chances that the un-canon fight in the movie inspired some sort of new “canon” story between these two. I don’t finf it forced, I find it classic and even nostalgic for some reason. Very cool.

Overall, excellent bio, one of the best and finally, FINALLY, has Johnny Cage earned his well disserved respect.
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