http://mkarmageddon.com/assets/bios/bio_???.html

They have a page for every character, just don't use caps (Replace the ??? with a characters name). Posted this to clraify that more than Scorp had a page.

And before you even try they don't have a page for Khameleon, Monster, Or Tremor. I'm not suprised but it was worth a shot.

i think everyone knows my opponion on the dark story for raiden, so i won't bother saying how much i hate the bio. i have a theory that raiden yin was seperated from his yang when he went abomb in the intro for deception. so the dark one kept all the memmories of raiden but the light one has the moral part of him that said, this is wrong, i can't do this. so if i'm right we have two raidens, one with no memmory, and one with no morals. it's like darth vader, you can see the good in him, but he's doing the wrong thing because he can't tell the difference between good and evil because his mind was corrupted by desperation, anger and fear. i hope fujin can bring him back to the light. or at the least get raiden to stop this evil stuff and say, 'fine but don't expect me to be nice again' the thing i want to know is why is he running with the light characters in the intro when he has an aliance with kahn. i will make ed boon, john vogel and dan forden pay for this, then i will kill john tobias for leaving midway and let boon turn the story to shit.

Shujinko was a very young preteen/teen kid and at that age, not many of them are wise enough to understand between an evil spirit and a good spirit.


So him being a dumbass is very normal at the beginning and during the quest, he doesn't have a good reason to "question" Damashi.

You know the Yin Yang symbol doesn't represent good and evil. It has opposites like night and day but good and evil is not one of them. So if you're saying there is a good Raiden and an evil Raiden running around then that isn't exactly correct.

also now that i think about the last part of raidens bio, this could just all be a ploy to get in close with the bad guys and see what they are planning, then after all gets shown to him, he comes with the best warriors on the side of light and shredds the plot. this could all just be a plan to gain the trust of the dark sidere fighters and then break them when they leased expect it. it is another plot story used to have the greater good win, is to act like you turned evil and get inside the works so you know how to throw a wrench in them.
yes i know that yin and yang don't mean good and evil. but they are opposites, light and dark, big and small, body and spirit two haves of the same whole. what i'm saying is that the raiden we have may only by the dark half, but since he has no yin to hold him back, he has no real morals or conchinous[sorry for the spelling] so even tho he isn't really evil or completely wrong he lost the part that had morals so he can't really tell the difference between what is convient and what he needs to do. all he knows is earth must be safe and that is why he is doing everything he can even if it may be wrong. another character that is dark but not really evil is scorpion. yea he is a undead specter of hell but we can see that he really isn't evil, all he wants is to kill quan chi and revive has clan and his wife and child. if he was evil he would not even care about his clan or family. same applies to raidens dark side, he sees earth as scorpion sees his family, something he must fight for until it is secure. hope that cleares it up

Okay, I just couldn't tell if you knew that or not from reading you other posts because it still makes sense even if it doesn't represent good and evil.

Shadowalchemist- thanks i like to make creative theories on the the plot line of this series. if i'm right then it would answer all the questions expect one, how did this come to be?

Not exactly. His first war against Shinnok provoced an era of darkness and destruction in the Earthrealm, doing that the Saurians were emigrating to Zaterra. Later in Zaterra, probably was Shao Kahn who aniquilated nearly all former saurians-now zaterrans...

About Raiden being an Elder God...

No he isn't an Elder God. In the Mortal Kombat Deadly Aliance intro he states that he "reliquished his status of Elder God...."
To reliquish is to exatly retire from, give up, or abandon.
So yea, he was, but he isn't anymore. He doesn't have the status or the power an Elder god might inherit from being such...

About Shujinko.....

I think Shujinko is the biggest under-rated character on the roster. And him being used for a great part of his life doesn't refute the fact that (hold on..stay with me here...heh) he's probably the most powerful individual on the roster...Potentially, he's unlimited.

There hasn't been a limit established to his potential to absorb and then use the power he gains against his opponents. What irony is that? The biggest, arguably most dispised character on the roster, could likely be the biggest threat to all the other characters. Yea, being used up
("I was a fool" I think he said himself) by "Damashi"//Onaga doesn't stop me from liking Shujinko..

DeathScepter sums up my p.o.v. about Jinko ultimately though...



Well yea...hmm.....Not exactly... here's that reference courtesy of MortalkombatWarehouse.com
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Thousands of years ago in a battle with the fallen elder god known as Shinnok, I was responsible for the death of an entire civilization.
To rid all realms of Shinnok's menace I waged a war that plunged the earth into centuries of darkness and banished Shinnok to a place called the Netherealm.
Now after Shao Kahn's defeat at the hands of the earth warriors, Shinnok has managed to escape his confines of the Netherealm.
The war is now being fought once again, and this time it can be won by mortals.
- The Words of Raiden
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So you see, it was never clarified the civilization he delt with....leaving us to once again hypothesize. I haven't been convinced it was Raiden vs Saurians from what's there. I think it makes more sence the way of Raiden vs Quan Chi's "civilization....My opinion for now I guess..
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Btw, all of the bios and Opening Stories can be found in that MkWarhouse link. Exit these latest MkA bios of course...Just trying to help in case you hadn't already known about it.

Oh great raiden loses liu kang and he goes emo.

Mindless drivel. As may be he case in point for this and other bios to come; making no reference to Konquest, and as they are clearly set before the opening movie, we will get NO explanation for Kenshi's and Sheeva's deaths as seen on screen. Anyway, onto Raiden's.

Expositional nonsense about a race of necromancers- Raiden's a god. I'm sure he could just have reanimated Kang's corpse "like that". It sounds horribly contrived. At least in MK4, shallow as it was, Raidenjust went "Oh yeah, Cage, you're alive again. Rock on."

No explanation of Fujin's point "If Raiden HAD actually sacrificed himself he wouldn't be this way" (contradicting the opening of MKD). And certainly nothing about exactly *why* he's gone almost insane.

Nothing about Liu Kang's corpse murdering innocents and causing chaos (again contradicting MKD, here and in Fujin's bio it's stated it's targetted slaughter).

No reference to the alliance with Shao Kahn as shown in Konquest. Instead we're told he allies himself with Shinnok.

Mind, these are bios that are hurriedly being written simply because of the amount of people who complained they wern't in the game, so I'm not expecting anything really good anyway; especially given the way the team can't put together a decent story to save their lives any more.

Old Raiden, the good and stupid guy? That doesn't make any sense...

Raiden simply made a deal with Shao Kahn in that if Raiden stopped Taven from completing his quest, Shao Kahn would spare Earthrealm. However, that doesn't make much sense considering how Shao Kahn can't be trusted. Raiden's bio shows how despite his alliance with Shinnok, he still doesn't trust him. I'm sure this also applies to Shao Kahn, who is he somehow using in his own way. How the hell is Shinnok not a threat to Earthrealm?? We're talking about Shinnok, the fallen Elder God who wanted to take Earthrealm for himself. Remember the MK4 intro?? Guess not....*sighs*

ThePredator151: The Houan are an ancient sect, not a civilization. I don't think Nitara is involved, but Quan Chi might. You misunderstood Fujin's bio. Fujin said that Raiden should've been reborn as a new god with no memories of his past yet Raiden clearly remembers everything and has the ruthlessness of Shao Kahn.

The One Being can't really do that to the Elder Gods as they are not in the realms. They are in the Heavens while the One Being's consciousness makes up the fabric of the realms.

I disagree about what you said regarding his story. It can easily intertwine with other characters, especially the main heroes like Kitana, Kung Lao, etc. I think he has a lot of life left in his story.

I'm pretty sure Raiden had some connection to the Saurians as the MK4 intro implies.

T-Rex: Raiden relinquished his status as an Elder God. Elder Gods cannot directly interfere with matters going on in the realms, but Raiden can.

Thunderstudent: Yin and Yang are not truly separate from each other as one has a bit of the other in it. Look carefully at the Taijitu. Raiden is not without morals. I really don't think you know what you're talking about. Boon is more of an overseer on different aspects of the games. It's John Vogel who is head of the storywriting. I think Vogel did a great job with Raiden's story as Raiden hasn't really had that much to his story in the past. He's far more interesting now.



No....

cloneofdan: I think it's more from Liu Kang's perspective that the people his body are killing are innocent.

Obviously not. The entire point of those bios is to provide insight into the backstory,the setup which led to the massacre in the opening.
Besides,it's been stated numerous times that the opening is non-canon as far as the "fates" of the characters are concerned.

That's the point,really. Bringing somebody back to life and reanimating that somebody's corpse to produce a mindless killing machine under the reanimator's full control are implied to be two drastically different things.

[Sarcasm ON]
Sure,because judging about the quality of the overall storyline based on 5 (that's five) pieces out of 62 (that's sixty-two) makes a lot of sense. [/Sarcasm OFF]

T-Rex:

I haven't seen that stated once. The closest I've seen is Cinder on the Midway forums saying "Don't worry, it doesn't reveal the final fate of the characters." That's entirely different to being non-canon.


Friend, when I say "can't put together a decent story..." I'm also referring to the endings. Konquest and the endings, to me, both showed that whoever's writing the MK story has just lost it. Therefore I'm not shocked that the bios for the most part won't be amazingly good or even consistent.

Remember: The bios are in first person. If other char/being make "evil" Raiden in his "rebirth", it's obvious that in his MKD & MKAr Bios he doesn't talk about it, because he's unaware of his own corruption.

sorry for the double post

No, because Quan Chi knew Shinnok during his banished in the Netherrealm, and Shinnok was defeated milleniums ago. Maybe Quan Chi is a Houan, and maybe with the battle of his clan against Raiden centuries ago knew about his fight with Shinnok, and for this reason Quan Chi helped Shinnok to overthrow Lucifer and put the fallen Elder God to the new Lord of the Netherealm... maybe...

Thunderstudent: I think you need to work on your quoting. It was I who said that to you, not ThePredator151. Yes, the Taijitu is the "yin/yang" symbol. I've always liked Raiden, and I still do. However, the big problem with him lies within his lack of character development. He hasn't gotten much or any of it until MKD.

Scorpion does not have all that much flexibility to change given the way his story is. In MK1-MKDA and MKA, his story is all about revenge. That's pretty much it. It's just one-dimensional garbage. That's not to say that he can't be taken out of that bad track. It's just that he currently doesn't have that much going for his story. The only thing I agree with you on is that Scorpion should've stayed as the Elder Gods and instead of half-assing the resurrection of his fellow ninja, they should've simply put off on fufilling his request until he can do enough to earn it.

Shame on Vogel? You have to understand that while Vogel is the lead storywriter of the MK games, he doesn't have as much control over things as you'd like to think. For example, it was not his decision to have almost every character in this game, and he certainly didn't have any control over it. There were things in MKA's Konquest such as Frost being in the Lin Kuei temple and Sareena being allied with Quan Chi that weren't his doing, and he didn't have control over those things either.

The programmers aren't well-versed in the storyline like Vogel is. According to Vogel, Scorpion helped Shujinko destroy Onaga, but he was not the one to deal the final blow thus why the Elder Gods half-assed the resurrection and made Scorpion's fellow ninja as undead warriors.

With the things like the Frost and Sareena ordeals, they were given explanations that made sense thus props to Vogel and the other storywriters. So shame on Vogel? Not really. It's more like, "Shame on Midway for milking the series for so damn long."

lol actually i need to work on my quoting, you said the first thing and i said hte second.

i agree vogel should be commended for his ability to change a sticky situation to an at least believable storyline.

To this:



Too, I don't see any clear implication that Raiden had anything to do with the Saurians. You're gonna have to show me//prove it to me so I can understand better how people are tieing them together.

However, I know that the Saurians where "dissmembered" almost to extinction....And I know Raiden caused the death of a "civilization".
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Looks like you accidently quoted Sub-Zero_7th as me.



I...I'm not really sure about Quan Chi being an Oni at any time. From my understanding Quan Chi is simply a REALLY old sorcerer mainly tied in origin to the NetherRealm. I think you're refering to Dahmin. He was a leader or overlord or something and when banished to the NetherRealm....turned into an Oni. Not clear coming from me though, I'm a fan of Quan Chi more than Drahimin, but I'm not real big on either...
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Just so we're all on the same page definition wise...I don't wanna go there about this...Kool? Kewl.

I didn't like it at first but it's grown on me and now I really like it. It's a testimony to the strength of a character like Raiden that he can still be cool if he's good or evil. He makes a really great villain. I think what I didn't like was that they were making him so evil that he would use his old friend's corpse for his own goals but I guess that shows how much he's changed. I hope they do something cool with this and it leads to somewhere....I don't know what...but not a cheap..."OH, I'm good, again!"...The reason for this change should be something that is really cool...Like an old enemy being responsible...or something...but very cool.