being that there is so much controversy over these tiers, i can't help but smile

midway finally balanced out their characters

Here's some brief explinations as for why I put characters where I did.

Overall: Average metagame, if someone doesn't know what the metagame is, it's the overall performance of a character when used by human players.

Raiden: Raiden was low because I have yet to face a good Raiden, I myself have only faced idiots who honestly, even when they DO know what they're doing, are punished.

The Joker: Quite the opposite, I have faced GOOD Jokers, which have put up good fights, better than any Raiden in fact

Deathstroke: High mid tier because while I hsve seen few Deathstrokes, they are all good.

Baraka: Once again, haven't fought a good Baraka.
Anything else you find out of place?

I agree with this, as so far the few lists that were made on this thread are totally unaccurate as that Raiden and Sub-Zero are not low-tier characters at all.

Besides, nobody here knows that Sub-Zero has been a high tier ever since they started having these lists. And the only reason why I said that is becasue everyone is putting him in the low/mid tier list. He doesn't belong there.

As agreeing with the user who is stating that Raiden is practically undefeatable, I will agree on that statement as well, as he too can be a very unstoppable character if used properly.

So, someone who knows their stuff, should make a list. I cannot right now as I have not played as all the characters yet, but so far, the ones that I have played... heh... they don't belong where you guys have been putting them, unless you don't play like I do.

Tier List:

http://www.mortalkombatunited.com/showthread.php?t=728

SubZero ? LOL !

I suggest you guy's read that link above Reo posted.

What's wrong with Sub-Zero? He's been a top tier for a very long time.

This list V sucks as well

1. Flash
2. Green Lantern
3. Superman
4. Darkseid
5. Raiden
6. Liu Kang
7. Shao kahn
8. DeathStroke
9. Batman
10. Scorpion
11. Kitana
12. Sub-Zero
13. Shang Tsung
14. Captain Marvel
15. Baraka
16. Jax
17. Sonya
18. Kano
19. Lex Luthor
20. Catwoman
21. The Joker
22. Wonder Woman

[EDIT] I edited this post with a long guide, but i deleted it... Just play me and find out for yourselves... XBOX: BMF KrayzieBone PSN: BMF_KRAYZIE_BONE

Yeah unlike you guys the tier list in the link I posted was discussed by the top players in MKDC and the characters are placed with information to back up their tier placement.

We don't "assume" or "think" a character is in a certain spot or better than another one. Also LOL @ Sub-Zero being placed #1. In the past 3 MK games sub has only been Top Tier in MKA rnaking it in the top 6. MKDC he is far from the top 3, he's in the top 12 though for sure.

I never said him being at number one, I said that he's been a top tier for a long time. And are you serious about him being a top tier in MKA? You don't play as Sub-Zero as much as I do... I know that Sub-Zero isn't exactly THE top player, no, no, that's Superman in IMO, but Sub-Zero is not a low character at all.

I'm sort of through with these "lol" moments, please, I don't find the humor in one's opinion at all.

Actually due to Sub-Zero having the Impale glitch, he's a top contender in MKA. Thanks to check.

Ehh,.. I forgot to add a word when I wrote that "Are you serious about him being a top tier in MKA. I meant to say, "Are you serious that he was only the top tier in MKA, which the user before said that out of the newly created games, such as Deadly Alliance, Deception and Aramgeddon, Sub-Zero was top tier for only Armageddon.

I can really do some damage when I leave out a few words here and there.

all good.

MINION is right, the impale was one of the reasons Sub-Zero was top tier in MKA. Sub-Zero wasn't top tier in MKD or MKDA, and yes I'm serious of Sub-Zero being top tier in MKA only...

I just found it funny how Sub-Zero was placed #1 on the tier list for MKDC without any statistic reasons behind it.

What reo said.

Hmm, people's opinions of these tier lists go all over the place.

Let's just have bygones be bygones and that the characters we know are up there be up there and those who are down there be down there.

Becuase I don't think people has the ability to make some successful list of who goes where and what they're ranked at. I'm just throwing this out there because I'm sort of done repeating myself. It's becoming a nasty habit on this site lately,

We just have a good understanding over who is what tier in this game.

I don't really like that tier list either, but is better than the OP's.

I think Green Lantern is way too high. Any character with a decent teleport move can easily punish most of his moves. His break --> summong grab is awesome, but not enough to make him #2 overall imo.

I'd also put CM over Shang Tsung and Wonder Woman over Joker, Luthor and Catwoman.

Every Mortal Kombat game has characters that have advantages over other characters. There are characters who have an advantage over every character, those baby, are top tier. Characters that have easier recovery (which helps offense and defense), easy to do kombos (offense and counter attack), hard to avoid specials (offense), excellent teleporting or dash-aways (very good for escaping anything except a ground pound) and hits that do more damage than they should are what make up a high-tier. With the possibility of infinites and whether they are legal or not also change the "tier list". Clearly if a character takes more damage than others (mka's jinko), or has poor range or projectiles (catwoman) or has slow moves with no or little reward, then they would be low tier. Flash has no projectile, other than himself, but his moves more than make up for it unlike Catwoman. When high level players like Bone, Check and REO say that a character is junk or if it is supreme, I would listen.

Didn't catch these two replies earlier.



"LOL" back at ya bra.

#1: Let me help you comprehend what the first post in this thread says loud and clear:



Whoever taught you reading comprehension failed you. You missed both the point of the thread, and the point of my post in one swoop. And then you screwed up and said I have no competitive experience. In what? Go ahead and try to specify.

#2: I know this was readable:



I know you can read that. It's spelled correctly and everything.

Also, I didn't rank every single character because I didn't feel like it. Besides that, for the literate here, I think it's painfully obvious that I grouped them in tiers a piece. I also don't feel the need to slap a redundant "iMo" up everywhere, especially when people ask for an opinion in the first post.

I don't know what can help you see that better....Read slower maybe?

#3: No competitive experience?

Were you one of the sore losers that sent me hate mail? Just saying. I got a few of those jackasses in my LIVE mailbox, so I wouldn't be surprised that with your attitude, you ended up being one of the people I whipped online.

An-y-one who's ever played with or against me knows by now that I'm a great player. They also know that I don't have a problem loosing either.

At the same time, just because I don't desire to shit on your online reputation doesn't mean I "couldn't" do it. If I wanted approval from you or your group I would get it through kickin' your ass and teaching you how I did it. Straight up and down dude.

...and anyway, you don't want me all over you...constantly challenging you...calling you a wuss all over the internet and online community once you loose and start bitching about it. And yes, you would bitch about it, because they always do. You're sensitive to a list of fictional characters dude, if you lost to somebody you don't respect you'd piss, moan, scream and stomp all over the place. lol

What troubles you overzealous dudes about this minuscule shit is how worthless a win (hell, or loss as a matter of fact) is to me. I've said it time and time again, If I'm not aiming at you....don't make yourself a target. Don't make me care about beating you, and bragging about it.

#4: Where Jax or Joker is on my list is irrelevant to where you think they should be. Mainly because when I put time into playing with those characters, as well as my experience playing against them on and offline, to me, they fit where I put them.....

If I play the game, and someone asks for my opinion of the game....then I give them my opinion about it, and they can take it or leave it. I don't give a rats ass about "when" you think it's appropriate. You don't exist in that equation.

Is that clear enough for you now? I play for fun...but I make sure I win alot. haha.



#1: Again, you don't exist as far as "when" other peoples' opinion matters. Um...."you don't matter", or, "when you say an opinion should matter, is an inaccurate assertion". It's a flawed logic based on how overzealous you are about facts of the game itself. You're not the authority on "when" someone else can have an opinion. Ya got problems if you think you are some kind of authority.

Look, the MkTeam insisted on "wait until you play it". Well, that's actually reasonable, and so I did that. And when I did, I played it for about 2wks straight, experienced the whole game....and when asked my opinion on it, I gave it. To which btw, I negate your claim to how "inexperienced" you couple dudes keep trying to drive home.

Outside of that, I know how to couch potato my way into "High Level Player" lingo, and rank. I know how to get respect for being a lazy ass (that obviously ain't hard, silly). As well as how to interact with those who use these things as it pertains to the the system that those things address. i.e. MkvsDc in this instance, this game.

But alas! I don't desire such a worthless prestige. Like you dudes. Nor do you know "how much experience" I have. Nor do you have any scale to judge by. And for that matter, here's something out of left field for you:

You're nowhere near "better" than me.

*watches him get all pumped up* lol

#2: Yea, in my opinion, the Joker is a better put together character than Liu Kang. He's more complete. However, I've played with Liu Kang much more than I've played with The Joker. But that's just because I don't like the way they designed the Joker, as opposed to Liu Kang. I'm not a fan of either of them though.....

And again, look at the way my "list" is divided up. It's categorized in chunks. There is no definite organization to them once they've been placed in the column that I placed them in. Numbered them to make sure I got them all...ect.
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Far as Wonder Woman, DUH you can use her. I didn't say that she's not usable. In this game, you can use any character in a few different ways. But I think she's horrible. Her moves suck through and through.

Her projectiles are virtually useless against me, and when playing with her, a technique or so that I was able to use with her, I disagreed with. I always make sure I try at least three different strategies with a character. Simply put, I didn't like the way her stuff DID work...."she sucked". So I put her ass on the bottom of my list. what r ya gonna do about it eh?

Then, when I played someone who used her online....she was one of the easiest punching bags in the game. Some people were better than others, but I had absolutely no problems with that character. There wasn't shit you could do vs my Raiden, Kitana, Sub-Zero, or my very rare Green Lantern or Cap Marv. It's a wrap! She sucks.

To put it into an even better perspective for you, I never got beat by a Wonder Woman. And I got beat more by Liu Kang than ever by Joker online (I think I lost a total of 3 times to different Joker players over a 2wk period). Even though on my list, Joker is technically"above" Liu Kang. Notice that they're in the same class as far as I'm concerned....I just didn't care to itemize them like you would expect from a typical tier list. I don't care to do all that.

#3: Accuracy is only based on the interpretation of the person with the controller in their hand. So if you, and anybody else feel content in following a herd, you go right ahead brah. But don't jump on here and spew bullshit about how inaccurate any one persons opinion is. It's an OPINION based on that players experience with the game.



Lmao, it's not life and death dude, haha....It's not like if you put a character in a place that you disagree with later, you can't just hit the EDIT button on your post and change it. Geez...

Acting like the delicate balance of existence as we know it will end if you don't know Kano before you make a stupid little list. lol You dudes are a trip.

I've found a couple good Lex Luthors on LIVE (pro-moves and all). Lex worked like a really good counter to my Raiden. Haven't seen a really good Jax though. Kano's a beast in this game btw. So is Shang Tsung.

eh...this came out longer than I wanted it to be.

Green Lantern is really good actually, he has B1, you cant jump away from that if B1 is repeated consistantly, you have to block it first, his db1 off a breaker is not a move to underestimate.

picture 113 DB1 **114 BB3, that alone is a 42% combo, It leaves you in a full screen situation, you can return by running at me, but you get BB3, you can jump, but that gives me the option to catch you with DB1, or you can simply throw a projectile at me, in this case i can side step your projectile, considering we are still full screen distance away and hit you with an easy 21% full distance "strenght of will". As for your teleporters, most of these teleporters get punished easily by U2, now if I was to do U2, that leaves you vulnerable to DB1 all over again.


so you see, green lantern is not the character to underestimate.

Predator just bitchslapped this entire thread, and I love it.

heres what i think about tiers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR6sxFBm1P8
now take this info and apply it to mk vs dc or any fighting game

1. Shao Kahn

2. Raiden

3. Flash

4. Green Lantern

5. Dark Seid

Top 5

I know Catwoman is at the bottom, and I can only hope that a patch can at least speed up her two whip/grab animations. The hit box on that whip attack in the air is kinda odd too.

she's the worst...