We never got light on if we could do Fatalities on Heroes
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posted07/11/2008 06:05 PM (UTC)by
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Ok, all MK characters and DC villains will have fatalities while most of DC heroes(who don't kill) will have brutalities. Alright, I get it. But will you still be able to do a fatality on a DC heroe who has a brutality?

Will Catwoman get to do her fatality on Batman?

Will Sub-Zero do his on Superman?

We never gotten light on rather its ok to perform fatals on the DC heroes or all DC characters at that.
Next time please be more specific instead of just writing "this subject."
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07/10/2008 01:30 AM (UTC)
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Why wouldn't we?
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jbthrash
07/10/2008 01:30 AM (UTC)
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A very good point

However, my question is how can you make a "T" rated game with fatalities?
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07/10/2008 01:32 AM (UTC)
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jbthrash Wrote:
A very good point

However, my question is how can you make a "T" rated game with fatalities?


Oh yeah, I forgot, the fatals probably won't be a big deal anyway, so I guess its not a big deal. But I still want light on it even though the fatals won't be really graphic.
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07/10/2008 01:33 AM (UTC)
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jbthrash Wrote:
A very good point

However, my question is how can you make a "T" rated game with fatalities?

Good point, but I'm assuming fatalities like toasty will Involve no Blood. So it's still pretty much under the T rating.
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07/10/2008 01:35 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
jbthrash Wrote:
A very good point

However, my question is how can you make a "T" rated game with fatalities?

Good point, but I'm assuming fatalities like toasty will Involve no Blood. So it's still pretty much under the T rating.


As long as they still KILL the oponent and not just knock them out i'm fine. And I hope the brutalities are graphic and at the end of them the opponent of the recieving in be on the brink of death (but still alive of course)
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07/10/2008 01:37 AM (UTC)
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It doesn't matter. There are much bigger issues to be dealt with with this game.
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07/10/2008 02:22 AM (UTC)
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jbthrash Wrote:
A very good point

However, my question is how can you make a "T" rated game with fatalities?


Reduce the amount of blood and gore.

Example:

Scorpion: Toasty to ashes instead of to a flaming skeleton

Sub-Zero: Freeze /n Shatter without gore

Etcetera. Plenty of MK characters have had non-gory signature fatalities (or at least ones that can be toned down without changing much) in the past
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07/10/2008 02:34 AM (UTC)
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TheAdder Wrote:
jbthrash Wrote:
A very good point

However, my question is how can you make a "T" rated game with fatalities?


Reduce the amount of blood and gore.

Example:

Scorpion: Toasty to ashes instead of to a flaming skeleton

Sub-Zero: Freeze /n Shatter without gore

Etcetera. Plenty of MK characters have had non-gory signature fatalities (or at least ones that can be toned down without changing much) in the past


lol, toast to ashes?

It takes a really long time for a body to cremate into ashes.

we would be waiting a really really long time
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07/10/2008 02:40 AM (UTC)
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It takes a really long time for all of the flesh to burn off a human too, the game doesn't seem to realize this.
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PapaRoachFan
07/10/2008 02:47 AM (UTC)
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that was back in the early days, when everything was cartoony.

this game is using unreal 3 engine and has the potential to be the most realistic mk game yet, and very cool.
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07/10/2008 03:20 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
jbthrash Wrote:
A very good point

However, my question is how can you make a "T" rated game with fatalities?

Good point, but I'm assuming fatalities like toasty will Involve no Blood. So it's still pretty much under the T rating.

If the fatalities have any blood it'll be at a minimum. I expect that the toasty will just turn them into a skeleton or burn their suit some.


Off topic: nice sig minion XD
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07/10/2008 03:22 AM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
It doesn't matter. There are much bigger issues to be dealt with with this game.


Agree.
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07/10/2008 04:26 AM (UTC)
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1. Toasty: Scorpion breathes fire on them, and even though nothing expodes and no real blood or anything is shown.....Superman, Batman, and the like, run around screaming and fall on the floor.

2. A "Freeze Fatality": Sub-Zero freezes his oponent from the feet up into a brick of ice, and then kicks the oppontent off a roof, or just off screen.

3. "Stabbing Fatalities" will look "brutal" technically, but you won't get guts flying out, or an over abundance of blood.

4. No explosions (which is a good thing I thinK) unless it really far away like MK3-T Sektors where he blows the whole Earth up. The MKTeam has said in one of their behind the scenes vids that, most of them didn't like that fatality, so I doubt they'll do that kind of thing again.

5. Soul siphons are apparently in, although the integrity of the body won't change during a fatality. We saw that kind of thing from Shang Tsung in MKDA-A.

none of this:



6. I'd imagine electrocutions are in, But like I say, no exploding guts and so on. Probably only stuff like this:



7. I think that the rest of them will be relatives to "brutalities".


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Bottom line is, there is still alot of creativity left, there just won't be alot of blood and guts flying around everywhere. No head rips, no bloody stabbings, no disembodiment, no explosions, not viseral, sinister, fatalities.

Even though, that's what they've decided to call them for this T rated game.
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07/10/2008 03:19 PM (UTC)
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T-rated games with fatalities = no excessive blood or dismemberment. No arms or limbs flying off. No big pools of blood. Which is why Scorpion will have Toasty. Incinerate the foe isn't ripping his head off.

Or they can get clever with how they cut the fatalities. I mean cut scene the fatalities.
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07/10/2008 03:53 PM (UTC)
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TheAdder Wrote:
It takes a really long time for all of the flesh to burn off a human too, the game doesn't seem to realize this.


Well, it is a game with four armed dragon people and humans that have pyrokinetic abilities.
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07/10/2008 04:04 PM (UTC)
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They could still have head rips if they censor them. Just have them in silhouette - characters and blood turn black, background turns red - and then have a spine rip.
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07/10/2008 06:15 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:


As long as they still KILL the oponent and not just knock them out i'm fine. And I hope the brutalities are graphic and at the end of them the opponent of the recieving in be on the brink of death (but still alive of course)


I hope that the victim explodes after the brutality, like in UMK3.

That would be allowed, right?
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07/10/2008 07:38 PM (UTC)
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i don't think they can show like batman exploding.

i was thinking they'd have not so much fatalities but more finishers, that way mortal kombat fans can have the satisfaction of finishing off their opponent but not explicit killing them. i would assume that most of the damage done doing finishers would be implicit, almost like comic book death.

like instead of sub-zero doing the ice shatter he'd just deep freeze super man.
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07/10/2008 07:42 PM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
i don't think they can show like batman exploding.

i was thinking they'd have not so much fatalities but more finishers, that way mortal kombat fans can have the satisfaction of finishing off their opponent but not explicit killing them. i would assume that most of the damage done doing finishers would be implicit, almost like comic book death.

like instead of sub-zero doing the ice shatter he'd just deep freeze super man.


Umm...Just freeze? Thats it? He freezes during gameplay so what would make freezing the oponent as a fatality soo different then a gameplay mood?
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07/10/2008 07:50 PM (UTC)
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well he can't rip out superman's spine. atleast i would assume he couldn't and he can't freeze batman and break him in half...well i'm not going to say can't. but i will say that it's highly unlikely that DC would let a game be made where you could totally and completely murder their heroes.

and we know that from sareena's MKA ending that the MK team feels being frozen solid in a block of ice is a solution to a problem, so i wouldn't put it past them to do something similar.

i guess a better example would be scorpions' toastly fatality not even killing the opponent, just having them set on fire and running around or falling down burning even. but i highly doubt that DC would show their heroes dying extremely painful and gory deaths.
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07/10/2008 07:52 PM (UTC)
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You have a Big Point on this.
Ninja_Mime is right. There is Other Bigger Issues to be dealt with this game dude.
But I'd have to say Ninja_Mime, This could be one of them.
Of course it'll maybe a "T" Game, But who cares. If they did we all know they will probably lower the Blood And Graphic Fatal Deaths.
But even though they're doing that. I Can't imagine Scorpion doing his Toasty Fatality on SuperMan. I can't imagine Sub-Zero Freezing Catwoman
And then Popping her body into pieces.
It just doesn't sound Correct.
What I think they're going to do is just Give MK Fighters Brutalties and Fatalities. If they do that, That'll solve this Problem.wink
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07/10/2008 09:19 PM (UTC)
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Sulliusai Wrote:
You have a Big Point on this.
Ninja_Mime is right. There is Other Bigger Issues to be dealt with this game dude.


So excuse me for bringing up something I want light on. To me and a few others this is a big deal. And what are the other "big" things that need to be "dealt" with? Does this game end world hunger or something? This game isen't even canon, so what are the other "big" things? If you feel that this is a "minor" issue then don't reply to the thread.
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07/10/2008 09:26 PM (UTC)
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I agree with Ahnka, what other big issues? Ahnka's question pertains to one of the big issues, gameplay. And it's a darn good question that I too would like a little clarification on as well. My guess is, bad guys and MK characters will be able to perform fatalities on everyone in the game where as the Heroes of DC will just batter their enemies to a pulp. I can't think of any other way for it to be.
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07/10/2008 09:28 PM (UTC)
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Gameplay being stiff, reusing the same animations, graphics not being the best they can be, infinites and other bugs with the gameplay, etc.
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