Midway Releases Batman Renders from Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe!
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06/06/2008 04:11 PM EDT
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I still have yet to understand why people are saying the graphics are "Bad",I think they look fine?Is there any exact reason for this?People will have there opinions,but there is no reason for most of you to constanly nag about the game.



*claps* totally agree man, I honestly think some people just do it to grind up the fans who do happen to like the renders or B. just be dopes purposely C. find and go out of their way to bitch about something(even if it's not there ha, ha) or D. are perhaps very, very, very, very very bored.....

I agree, it looks just fine.
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06/06/2008 04:21 PM EDT
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khanswarrior15 Wrote:
I still have yet to understand why people are saying the graphics are "Bad",I think they look fine?Is there any exact reason for this?People will have there opinions,but there is no reason for most of you to constanly nag about the game.



*claps* totally agree man, I honestly think some people just do it to grind up the fans who do happen to like the renders or B. just be dopes purposely C. find and go out of their way to bitch about something(even if it's not there ha, ha) or D. are perhaps very, very, very, very very bored.....

I agree, it looks just fine.


Of course, they are just mad about MKVSDC, but they need to untangle their panties and realized that boon said there will be a a solo mk after this he even hinted at make two seperate series, the regular solo mk series and a mkvsdc series. Just don't buy any of the mkvsdc series games.

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06/06/2008 04:25 PM EDT
Exactly ^^, nothing wrong with that and I wouldn't mind the "two separate series" idea either.

Will most likely be two entirely different series all together or just have MK vs. DC as non- MK canon, while MK9 is MK canon from the other MK's before it

I agree.

As for the rants lol, what puzzles and amuses me is there's an official rant thread above yet people insist on making dumb threads still to this day or posting 10 paragraphs in each render thread why they hate the idea or the render...it's like ok, nobody cares so go post it in the rant thread already lol.

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06/06/2008 04:25 PM EDT
Uh oh....


The fanboys are getting restless. Watch out, things could get really serious in here.
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06/06/2008 04:40 PM EDT
Well, this site is for MK mainly and you'll have either fans or haters...looks like the haters are also getting rather restless...
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06/06/2008 04:45 PM EDT
Just because we actually don't mind the MK team tryin something new for once in the past ten years we are fan boys?

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06/06/2008 04:46 PM EDT
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This is bullshit! What the hell?!
Why isn't he a brighter shade of grey and blue?! Why can I see his abs?! Why aren't there eyebrows painted on his cowl?! This is bullshit!!!


Please tell me you're jokingwow

His cowl should be BLACK at the front, and BLUE everywhere else, duh!
What the fuck is all that segmented armor plating bullshit?! WHERE ARE THE WRINKLES IN THE FABRIC?!?!? FFS!!!

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06/06/2008 04:47 PM EDT
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Exactly ^^, nothing wrong with that and I wouldn't mind the "two separate series" idea either.

Will most likely be two entirely different series all together or just have MK vs. DC as non- MK canon, while MK9 is MK canon from the other MK's before it

I agree.

As for the rants lol, what puzzles and amuses me is there's an official rant thread above yet people insist on making dumb threads still to this day or posting 10 paragraphs in each render thread why they hate the idea or the render...it's like ok, nobody cares so go post it in the rant thread already lol.



I actually want a MKVSDC series. I think it'll be cool. Like if a character dies in the main MK series you can still have your favorite in MKVSDC. It could be kind of cool.

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06/06/2008 04:48 PM EDT
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
This is bullshit! What the hell?!
Why isn't he a brighter shade of grey and blue?! Why can I see his abs?! Why aren't there eyebrows painted on his cowl?! This is bullshit!!!


Please tell me you're jokingwow

His cowl should be BLACK at the front, and BLUE everywhere else, duh!
What the fuck is all that segmented armor plating bullshit?! WHERE ARE THE WRINKLES IN THE FABRIC?!?!? FFS!!!


The DC people obviously like it, they have controll how there characters look. Batman is classic Batman but he has been given some batman begins adjustments.

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06/06/2008 04:50 PM EDT
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The DC people obviously like it, they have controll how there characters look. Batman is classic Batman but he has been given some batman begins adjustments.

Right now, I'm mocking you with my mind.

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06/06/2008 05:06 PM EDT
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Well, this site is for MK mainly.


Lol, mainly? No, MK is the sites main purpose.


ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Just because we actually don't mind the MK team tryin something new for once in the past ten years we are fan boys?



Flat out denying facts about this game or any other MK that doesn't go with your liking straight out of favoritism makes you a fanboy.
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06/06/2008 05:14 PM EDT
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mkflegend Wrote:
Well, this site is for MK mainly.


Lol, mainly? No, MK is the sites main purpose.

Wait... MKO isn't the Mary-Kate Olsen fanclub?... Shit!

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06/06/2008 05:18 PM EDT
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AKELDAMA Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
Well, this site is for MK mainly.


Lol, mainly? No, MK is the sites main purpose.

Wait... MKO isn't the Mary-Kate Olsen fanclub?... Shit!


Hmm....don't really know how to reply to bad humor.


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06/06/2008 05:57 PM EDT
Boo hoo.
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06/06/2008 06:14 PM EDT
now THAT is dark and gritty. for sure.
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06/06/2008 08:34 PM EDT
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mkflegend Wrote:
Well, this site is for MK mainly.


Lol, mainly? No, MK is the sites main purpose.


ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Just because we actually don't mind the MK team tryin something new for once in the past ten years we are fan boys?



Flat out denying facts about this game or any other MK that doesn't go with your liking straight out of favoritism makes you a fanboy.


Yeah...you know. Mortalkombatonline.com not "rip MK.com" ; )

I'm pretty certain that means MK fans can come here to post, unfortunately since there's the luxury of "online internet" haters can also join, but I hardly see how that's ultimately beneficial. I'm not referring to the general either, but rather the MK forums. General have nothing to do with MK or anything per-se so that's the one exception.

The ignoring facts goes to the MK haters as well, I've seen more ignorant, silly posts on here about MK and DC since April it's rather pathetic.



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06/06/2008 09:07 PM EDT
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
This is bullshit! What the hell?!
Why isn't he a brighter shade of grey and blue?! Why can I see his abs?! Why aren't there eyebrows painted on his cowl?! This is bullshit!!!


Please tell me you're jokingwow

He's obviously mocking every one who is complaining about the render.
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06/06/2008 09:16 PM EDT
if you actually take a look in the trailer, you can see the whole armor segments on Batman's arms. I just noticed it today. I'm not kidding, on the scene where he's punching Sub-Zero pause it and get a good look.
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06/06/2008 09:27 PM EDT
I'm sorry but i'm excited! I'm deffinatley going to play as Sub, Scorp and Batman the most. Which is odd, I rarely play as Scorp and Sub because they are soo generic, but since they look awesome I have a feeling i'm going to really love playing as them.

And I am not a fan boy. I was one of the main people that were blasting MKD and MKA when they came out.

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06/06/2008 09:31 PM EDT
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I'm sorry but i'm excited! I'm deffinatley going to play as Sub, Scorp and Batman the most. Which is odd, I rarely play as Scorp and Sub because they are soo generic, but since they look awesome I have a feeling i'm going to really love playing as them.

And I am not a fan boy. I was one of the main people that were blasting MKD and MKA when they came out.


MKD and MKA were fun. I don't get people's problems. oh well...

I disagree about Scorpion's suit. It sucks hard. The little jewel thing is so retarded. And that belt..ugh. Sub's is good though.

If I do by this game {big if} I hope there's a good alt for Scorpion or a costume customization.
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06/06/2008 10:20 PM EDT
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MKD ... fun. I don't get people's problems.


Yeah, dude, Puzzle Kombat was great. I dunno why everybo--

...oh, did you mean the versus mode? Haha, you're such a joker, man! Good one.
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06/06/2008 11:06 PM EDT
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
I'm sorry but i'm excited! I'm deffinatley going to play as Sub, Scorp and Batman the most. Which is odd, I rarely play as Scorp and Sub because they are soo generic, but since they look awesome I have a feeling i'm going to really love playing as them.

And I am not a fan boy. I was one of the main people that were blasting MKD and MKA when they came out.


MKD and MKA were fun. I don't get people's problems. oh well...

I disagree about Scorpion's suit. It sucks hard. The little jewel thing is so retarded. And that belt..ugh. Sub's is good though.

If I do by this game {big if} I hope there's a good alt for Scorpion or a costume customization.


I like the egyptian look they gave Scorpion and how they made him look undead, really cool. All the characters look excelent to me so far. Can't wait for E3 next month, we'll be getting word on a few more characters!

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06/06/2008 11:30 PM EDT
The main problems I have with the render are 1. The belt is ridiculously large 2. That stupid jewel thing. 3. the shoulder pads

I'd prefer that he have pants instead of tights but that's less of a deal than the others. I'm also waiting on E3 to get some info on how the game plays.
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06/06/2008 11:44 PM EDT
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I still have yet to understand why people are saying the graphics are "Bad",I think they look fine?Is there any exact reason for this?People will have there opinions,but there is no reason for most of you to constanly nag about the game.



Okay...I get that. You simply don't understand. Alright, so look here:

I am not saying the graphics are "bad", as in, "they're crap altogether". That ain't what I'm saying.

I am saying that they are "good" last gen rendered graphics(since THAT's what these threads are for. To discuss the new RENDERS). And then, I actually do the comparisons. The purple segment example that I gave, is a MKA render of Shinnok. The rest of those examples, are large square segments of MKvsDC pre-released rendered graphics(batman, sub-zero, scorpion, superman). And I swear, as plain as day, you CAN see the same thing (technique//effect//whatever) used on the OLD render, that is used on these new renders. And it's on ALL of them. It's the same graphics technique, seemingly copied and pasted on these new ones.

And that doesn't look good for a 15+ year old game franchise, it looks terrible given the circumstances. I expected better from them. Is there a problem with that?

The only way you don't see that, is if you are simply "Wowed" by the fact that it's a new picture of an old character. OR, you like the design of the character more than me........Which, like I said, I'm not gonna blame people for that. It wouldn't make sense for me to blame people for that when this is a fan site, get me? It just makes it overwhelmingly evident that you don't know better. heheheh...Which I'm also cool with that, because everybody is not gonna know their way around graphics.

BUT, telling me "Oh you're crazy the graphics look awesome" is hilarious to me because I can see it. AND I can show it to you, AND I can explain it to you in lamens terms. lol

Look, you ever had somebody try to sell you something you already had and didn't want again? THAT's what this is with a little more photoshop (or maya, or Ue3, or whatever program) time put into it. That's how you get the dirt, scars, veins, and the "magic effects" that you see on these renders. I do it all the time when I make you guys signatures, or alter your pictures, or make you guys animated avatars....lol Actually KW, you deal with "layers" when you make signatures right? Well, it's the same principal dude. Just a different program.

Here's an example:



In this sig that I made for the user "Sub_Zer0", how did the Sub-Zero in the middle get a left elbow?

Here's the original render:



How? I "fixed it up" to make it look like it always existed. The Lin Kuei symbol is completely fabricated...Here's the original:



How do you get to what I put in his signature from those original images?
Well, you take the original, and either manipulate it, or you used it as an example to get "a new one".

Another example? Look at this Fake I made: Click on it.



Look at Shao Kahns face in the upper right-hand corner, he's got blood and all that on his face...Look at the color of Raidens costume....Well,



Point in all this is, I ADDED "effects" to theee ORIGINAL GRAPHIC. Not hard to see, or understand. LmaO!

The only thing "awesome" about these renders, is that they are "New" pictures of the characters. The graphics themselves...look bad = old.

I am saying that-THAT tendency, is a bad thing to do IF they are trying to pass last gen textures off as new, next gen textures. That's terrible for them to take something that we just finished buying with MKA, and put it out there for people to buy again in a new game.

Since it's all over the renders, the renders LOOK BAD. There's no real graphical improvement. It's just a"new" costume. hhahaha...

It looks bad that they haven't improved considering they got new technology in this "modified Unreal 3 Engine". Looks bad that they haven't accomplished real skin or metal textures. Looks bad that the same cloth textures that are on Sub-Zero, and even Scorpion, who are from the MK universe, is also on Superman and Batman, who are from a totally different franchise and universe. Way to pay attention to detail MKTeam.....can't even distiguish that they should have a separate feel about them considering they won't have the same taylor. HA! And then it really looks bad when all of them share graphics with the MKA Shinnok render.

Honestly, the first thing I did was laughed. Because it is laughable...but it's undeniably a bad moral judgment to sell people something old and try to pass it off as "new" and "refreshing". And then it's a bad graphic decision to try and establish "next-gen" with old content and methods for the first entry to these new consoles. That, my friend, is terrible. heheheh..

They didn't do this when they "started all over" with MKDA. The difference between MK4 & MKDA is irrefutable, graphically. W-t-h is the problem now? Hha!
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Anyway,

I am also not saying anything about the game mechanics//gameplay. Nor am I judging that, because I can't....I haven't played the thing. But that's y'know, "duh". This thread ain't about gameplay, so you don't see me talking about it. (for anybody who hasn't noticed that). I'm talking about what this thread was made for. And that is, to critique the characters design and the graphics that the MkTeam are currently using for this game.

So, what is wrong with me stating my opinion when that's what I'm supposed to be doing?

Again, like I said with my first post in this thread: The design is alright, but the graphics are bad though.

Any questions? rephrase: Any Logical//Reasonable Questions?

I don't know how much more simple I can put it than that...but I'll try if necessary.
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06/06/2008 11:49 PM EDT
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khanswarrior15 Wrote:
I still have yet to understand why people are saying the graphics are "Bad",I think they look fine?Is there any exact reason for this?People will have there opinions,but there is no reason for most of you to constanly nag about the game.



Okay...I get that. You simply don't understand. Alright, so look here:

I am not saying the graphics are "bad", as in, "they're crap altogether". That ain't what I'm saying.

I am saying that they are "good" last gen rendered graphics(since THAT's what these threads are for. To discuss the new RENDERS). And then, I actually do the comparisons. The purple segment example that I gave, is a MKA render of Shinnok. The rest of those examples, are large square segments of MKvsDC pre-released rendered graphics(batman, sub-zero, scorpion, superman). And I swear, as plain as day, you CAN see the same thing (technique//effect//whatever) used on the OLD render, that is used on these new renders. And it's on ALL of them. It's the same graphics technique, seemingly copied and pasted on these new ones.

And that doesn't look good for a 15+ year old game franchise, it looks terrible given the circumstances. I expected better from them. Is there a problem with that?

The only way you don't see that, is if you are simply "Wowed" by the fact that it's a new picture of an old character. OR, you like the design of the character more than me........Which, like I said, I'm not gonna blame people for that. It wouldn't make sense for me to blame people for that when this is a fan site, get me? It just makes it overwhelmingly evident that you don't know better. heheheh...Which I'm also cool with that, because everybody is not gonna know their way around graphics.

BUT, telling me "Oh you're crazy the graphics look awesome" is hilarious to me because I can see it. AND I can show it to you, AND I can explain it to you in lamens terms. lol

Look, you ever had somebody try to sell you something you already had and didn't want again? THAT's what this is with a little more photoshop (or maya, or Ue3, or whatever program) time put into it. That's how you get the dirt, scars, veins, and the "magic effects" that you see on these renders. I do it all the time when I make you guys signatures, or alter your pictures, or make you guys animated avatars....lol Actually KW, you deal with "layers" when you make signatures right? Well, it's the same principal dude. Just a different program.

Here's an example:



In this sig that I made for the user "Sub_Zer0", how did the Sub-Zero in the middle get a left elbow?

Here's the original render:



How? I "fixed it up" to make it look like it always existed. The Lin Kuei symbol is completely fabricated...Here's the original:



How do you get to what I put in his signature from those original images?
Well, you take the original, and either manipulate it, or you used it as an example to get "a new one".

Another example? Look at this Fake I made: Click on it.



Look at Shao Kahns face in the upper right-hand corner, he's got blood and all that on his face...Look at the color of Raidens costume....Well,



Point in all this is, I ADDED "effects" to theee ORIGINAL GRAPHIC. Not hard to see, or understand. LmaO!

The only thing "awesome" about these renders, is that they are "New" pictures of the characters. The graphics themselves...look bad = old.

I am saying that-THAT tendency, is a bad thing to do IF they are trying to pass last gen textures off as new, next gen textures. That's terrible for them to take something that we just finished buying with MKA, and put it out there for people to buy again in a new game.

Since it's all over the renders, the renders LOOK BAD. There's no real graphical improvement. It's just a"new" costume. hhahaha...

It looks bad that they haven't improved considering they got new technology in this "modified Unreal 3 Engine". Looks bad that they haven't accomplished real skin or metal textures. Looks bad that the same cloth textures that are on Sub-Zero, and even Scorpion, who are from the MK universe, is also on Superman and Batman, who are from a totally different franchise and universe. Way to pay attention to detail MKTeam.....can't even distiguish that they should have a separate feel about them considering they won't have the same taylor. HA! And then it really looks bad when all of them share graphics with the MKA Shinnok render.

Honestly, the first thing I did was laughed. Because it is laughable...but it's undeniably a bad moral judgment to sell people something old and try to pass it off as "new" and "refreshing". And then it's a bad graphic decision to try and establish "next-gen" with old content and methods for the first entry to these new consoles. That, my friend, is terrible. heheheh..

They didn't do this when they "started all over" with MKDA. The difference between MK4 & MKDA is irrefutable, graphically. W-t-h is the problem now? Hha!
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Anyway,

I am also not saying anything about the game mechanics//gameplay. Nor am I judging that, because I can't....I haven't played the thing. But that's y'know, "duh". This thread ain't about gameplay, so you don't see me talking about it. (for anybody who hasn't noticed that). I'm talking about what this thread was made for. And that is, to critique the characters design and the graphics that the MkTeam are currently using for this game.

So, what is wrong with me stating my opinion when that's what I'm supposed to be doing?

Again, like I said with my first post in this thread: The design is alright, but the graphics are bad though.

Any questions? rephrase: Any Logical//Reasonable Questions?

I don't know how much more simple I can put it than that...but I'll try if necessary.


Wow, you didn't have to write a harry potter novel to get your silly point acrosswow

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