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03/10/2011 12:40 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Basically the game leads into MK4.


But with *several* changes from the end of MK3.
Don't get the impression the next one will be MK4-2 any more than this one is MK3-2. wink
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Jaded-Raven
03/10/2011 12:43 AM (UTC)
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drpvfx Wrote:
~Crow~ Wrote:
Basically the game leads into MK4.


But with *several* changes from the end of MK3.
Don't get the impression the next one will be MK4-2 any more than this one is MK3-2. wink


Yeah, it will be an altered version of MK4, hopefully for the better. ^^
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~Crow~
03/10/2011 12:44 AM (UTC)
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Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
Hopefully with Cyborg Jarek.
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Jaded-Raven
03/10/2011 12:45 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
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Hopefully with Cyborg Jarek.


Oh lords no. XD
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Veni Vincere
03/10/2011 12:48 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
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Hopefully with Cyborg Jarek.


Surely that would be an improvement?
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Gillbob316
03/10/2011 12:52 AM (UTC)
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So hey...

I converted the block of story mode text into a readable script...

It's not perfect, and admittedly includes a little guesswork on my part (not anything huge), but it's way easier to read/follow than what we have now.

Removed all the numbers and coding.

Put in "Character Name:" Before each line.

For lines said by characters I couldn't identify, I didn't presume to write the story myself, I just put, "Someone:" or "Good Guy:" or "Bad Guy:"

Broke up all the dialogue into spaced out lines.

Inserted descriptive breaks where each chapter seems to begin and end.

Filled in blanks for what probably happened in seemingly missing cutscenes, based on context (I freely admit this is guesswork throughout the script)

Inserted breaks for all the fights (you can tell where they happen by reading the coding) Example: Worked in some other misc editor's notes...

ANYWAY...

I'd post it, but it's like 40 pages long... too long for a forum post. Furthermore, I'm not sure if we've put any rules or forum bans in place against this sort of thing being posted or not since this stuff originally leaked last night.

But if anyone wants to like... read this thing... I did spend all day working on it... I have a word file... and would appreciate some help and/or clarification on the matter, if someone wants to provide it...
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Jaded-Raven
03/10/2011 12:53 AM (UTC)
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You can't make a character better just by...
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... turning them into cyborgs!

There are other and more clever ways to make a character more interesting, and I think they could do much with Jarek to make him a more unique character. It might mean a total character revamp, but it is still possible!
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03/10/2011 12:55 AM (UTC)
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Why I hate this whole “kill those characters and bring them back” process that the MK team finds so great:
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1- Well its getting old and repetitive, its became a cliché already within the MK franchise;

2-If one characters dies, that is not bad, now the way he or she returns, now that may be BAD! I don't want to see Nightwolf as a werewolf, or Kitana as part of Ermac being (her father controls the right limbs and she the left ones no?) and Kung Lao what?! A Mummy?!

3- If one character dies and then returns it kind of takes credibility to the meaning of “death”. A character that dies should stay dead that’s why “death” doesn’t work in fighting games. The only death part in fighting games should not be canon like all the fatalities performed, stage fatalities, hara kiris, animalities, brutalities, defeats when the health bar reach its end, etc.

So the best thing to do is just not killing the character, put it in hiatus, make it go missing or replace it by a successor with similar traits, it doesn ́t matter. But killing a character in a fighting game should not be an option, especially since it ́s a kind of game with strong backgrounds and everything canon related is heavily considered!

I thought the main goal of this new Mortal Kombat game was to undo the whole mess MK DA-A came to be, yet they are once again following the same path. I admit the gameplay, the graphics, the music, the stages, the costumes, the characters, the details everything look great unlike MK DA-A but the story mode just seems the imperfect piece (that we always hope not to be in a hyped game) to shattered the whole perfection expected apart.

This was so simple, they just had to return to the past, make surprising twists, make certain changes like changing characters from their original places, times, purposes, playing with the considered old canon like pawns and let the story unfold. But no they had to kill characters removing pawns of the game.

Now I fear the only native, the only Princess and the only warrior with a fatal hat in the game will be lost forever. Sure they can return but at what price?! I don’t want to see them turned into Zombies or dark versions of their former selves (reference to Liu Kang and Raiden). I don’t want them turned evil we already got that several times and looked how DA, D and A came to be.

They added so much crap to the storyline that they reached the top in Armageddon and didn’t know how to move on. So they decided that would be a smart move to return to the past and eradicate this whole mess and starting anew and fresh. Just to repeat again the same crap?! What the hell?! They should respect their characters, specially the iconic ones and preserve them! So far I think all the major characters have died at least once! They should die in characters ending only since it’s a “what if” scenario. But in the story mode?! Outrageous!

What is worse is that Raiden was the one who had all the characters fates in his hands, and disgraced the whole plot even further damaging his credibility as the Thunder God, during this time (MK1-3) he was so wised and respected and they made him look like a fool. Perhaps he was not ready for this surprise messages from the future but still he should be able to do better than the original timeline and not even worse! Sure characters dying is not new to the MK franchise but I don’t recall characters dying in the gold era of MK1-3 games (Johnny Cage dies but then it’s reveal he died in the movie that covers MK1, doesn’t count). This just increased from DA onward.

If Raiden from the future wasn’t able to send the whole message “he the one who must win is Shao Kahn” then it would be better for him to send the message to his mates Delia and Argus preventing them from creating Blaze. What kind of co-workers don’t discuss they work/objectives?! It would be better if Delia and Argus would act like normal Gods and watch the events unfold and do nothing about it. Like Raiden they tried to act and have done worse.
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ninjawrath
03/10/2011 01:13 AM (UTC)
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Everyone has to remember these ending will b from the ladder NOT the actual story mode. The story mode in Mk vs dc was different from the ladder mode. It will b different and don't forget how many times characters have died and come back to life.
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03/10/2011 01:14 AM (UTC)
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Shadowspawn Wrote:
johnny1up Wrote:
Asm_MortalKombatNerd Wrote:
Wow. I am going to kry now. Did he win any tournaments? MK1-MK3?


Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
Yes, he wins two.
And I wouldn't say he's dead yet, in fact, he probably has the best chance (better than the other 3)

By "You killed us all." He could mean "You've just doomed the Earth. Asshole." not "You killed everyone, including me." They could also leave his fate unknown for awhile like the guy from saw.


By the dialogue, it seems pretty obvious that there is a third person there watching the fight going on and I think that is the person who says "You killed us all," but we can't know for sure until the game comes out.

I think that the dialogue is pretty good for the story mode and I am not as outraged as some over the changes that were made. Sub-Zero is my favorite character and Smoke is my second favorite character so that is disappointing with what happened to Sub-Zero, but he probably will be back to normal for the next game if there is a significat backlash from the fans against it. At least Smoke gets to stay as a human though. The thing that bothers me is how certain characters motivations for doing things and bios were changed and I am not too fond of that.
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Oh! THAT makes a lot more sense, I didn't realize that at first. I still think he'll either live or go missing though. It's just a hunch, or really high hopes that my mind tricks me into calling a hunch. I wouldn't mind if they left his fate undecided for awhile to be honest, I just don't want to see him explode or anything.
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

03/10/2011 02:03 AM (UTC)
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if this was the original script for mk1-3, you guys would still be crying if they did vice versa

You complain because raiden acts like a sped and messes things up, BUT THATS THE POINT

nostalgia can only get you so far, me and many others dont want the same crap over and over again

BTW i hope you guys didnt forget the fact that the ACTUAL game is epic

what a horibble fanbase

SHINNOK FTW!!!confused
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death2core666
03/10/2011 02:13 AM (UTC)
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ok dude do u have any complete proof that these are real?
i honestly just dont believe some of these endings i've been reading and some of it sounds like complete bullshit
im not trying to start shit i just want proof that these are the real deal
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-Brad-
03/10/2011 02:25 AM (UTC)
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Thanks for posting the info.
It's definitely different.
Some interesting.
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Ermac's dominant soul being King Jerrod, especially interesting during his time as Shao Kahn's enforcer, also how Ermac is going to act towards Sindel and Kitana when freed.
Beginning to wonder if the sequel will eventually have Kitana's soul in Ermac too by King Jerrod's pull, but that's getting ahead.
Also found interesting is the reasoning of Smoke's power, revealed national origins and Sektor being the Grandmaster's son amongst a few.
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03/10/2011 02:48 AM (UTC)
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Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)Character deaths are good. It takes away bland characters and allows those related to them to grow. For example

Nightwolf - Never contributed anything to the MK canon. He was there as a minority, nothing more. He was a spiritualist, yes, but they really never got into that.

Kung Lao - He was constantly Liu Kang's shadow. He was never going anywhere. Even when they had the chance to turn him into something great during MKDA, but they let the chance pass them by.

Kitana - Kitana is THE best death choice they could've made. her story was constantly going nowhere. The same thing every time of defending Edenia and flirting with Liu. Her death also frees up possibilities for Jade and Mileena, who have also been attached to Kitana. With Kitana gone, Jade can move out of her second banana position and into a leadership role, and allows MIleena to get into deeper stories other than the impostor thing she's had going since MKG

Just the same, they're trying to avoid coming back to the whole "too many characters, time for MKA" scenario, by booting off some of the weaker ones early on. Say 2/3 of the MK1-3 roster moves on to the MK4 story, then only 2/3 of those, then about 1/4 of the MKDA-MKD characters stick around, you have a severely minimized roster, with only the important characters remaining, leading to ebtter stories and less MKA

These are just some ideas I have floating around, but I feel like they're valid points nonetheless.
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"Unlike Raiden, we can't go back in time and make poor attempts to fix everything"...

03/10/2011 03:01 AM (UTC)
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Character deaths are good. It takes away bland characters and allows those related to them to grow. For example

Nightwolf -
"Nightwolf had traversed realms and fought many demons to get to this place deep within the Netherrealm. Using knowledge passed to him from his forefathers, he drew a binding symbol on the ground and chanted the ancient words that would draw the spirit of the Dragon King to this wicked place. Nightwolf had carried the burden long enough. He released the sins of his people into the mystic symbol, and their weight bound Onaga to the Netherrealm. Free of the corruption he had harbored for so long, Nightwolf was expelled from the depths of the Netherrealm and into the unknown."




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SubZero4Life87
03/10/2011 03:12 AM (UTC)
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I'm really hoping that these leaks are just a hoax to keep us guessing while NRS covers their tracks. I did not like some of the things I saw, especially what they did to the Younger Sub Zero. They took one of the most well developed characters in the series and destroyed his story. If all these leaks are true and Sub Zero really becomes a Cyborg, then I'm gonna be really pissed off.
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Remonster
03/10/2011 03:23 AM (UTC)
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Hey Vash, might want to edit your Spoilers in your post.
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FROST4584
03/10/2011 03:27 AM (UTC)
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Vash_15 Wrote:
Character deaths are good. It takes away bland characters and allows those related to them to grow. For example

Nightwolf - Never contributed anything to the MK canon. He was there as a minority, nothing more. He was a spiritualist, yes, but they really never got into that.

Kung Lao - He was constantly Liu Kang's shadow. He was never going anywhere. Even when they had the chance to turn him into something great during MKDA, but they let the chance pass them by.

Kitana - Kitana is THE best death choice they could've made. her story was constantly going nowhere. The same thing every time of defending Edenia and flirting with Liu. Her death also frees up possibilities for Jade and Mileena, who have also been attached to Kitana. With Kitana gone, Jade can move out of her second banana position and into a leadership role, and allows MIleena to get into deeper stories other than the impostor thing she's had going since MKG

Just the same, they're trying to avoid coming back to the whole "too many characters, time for MKA" scenario, by booting off some of the weaker ones early on. Say 2/3 of the MK1-3 roster moves on to the MK4 story, then only 2/3 of those, then about 1/4 of the MKDA-MKD characters stick around, you have a severely minimized roster, with only the important characters remaining, leading to ebtter stories and less MKA

These are just some ideas I have floating around, but I feel like they're valid points nonetheless.
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Kitana story going nowhere?

Kitana started off in MK2 as a one the best female assassins in the game. She was connected to Outworld history, then turning against Kahn and killing Mileena.

UMK3 now a renagade for killing Mileena, plays a key role in Sindel remembering her true life.

Kitana greatest moment comes in Deadly Alliance. Now she plays a role reformation of Edeian. From MK past she goes ninja assiassin , renagade, then the leader of a near successful army against Kahn for Ediena.

Like most plot elements in MK Deception, Deadly Alliance's plot went no where, including Kitana. It was plot in Deception and Armegeddon that killed the progession of the MK series. Like all things in MK, everything was fine with the story till MK 2011.

Again, how was Kitana not important in MK history?
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03/10/2011 03:27 AM (UTC)
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Remonster Wrote:
Hey Vash, might want to edit your Spoilers in your post.

Edited.
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ninjawrath
03/10/2011 03:29 AM (UTC)
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he isnt going to become a cyborg. they were going to do that originally but after to many people complained about noob not being in the game they changed that. thats why it went from older subzero being in the game to younger. they wouldnt have released subzero if they were going to just make him a cyborg. that debate is long over. he is staying human.
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03/10/2011 03:36 AM (UTC)
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Gillbob316 Wrote:
So hey...

I converted the block of story mode text into a readable script...

It's not perfect, and admittedly includes a little guesswork on my part (not anything huge), but it's way easier to read/follow than what we have now.

Removed all the numbers and coding.

Put in "Character Name:" Before each line.

For lines said by characters I couldn't identify, I didn't presume to write the story myself, I just put, "Someone:" or "Good Guy:" or "Bad Guy:"

Broke up all the dialogue into spaced out lines.

Inserted descriptive breaks where each chapter seems to begin and end.

Filled in blanks for what probably happened in seemingly missing cutscenes, based on context (I freely admit this is guesswork throughout the script)

Inserted breaks for all the fights (you can tell where they happen by reading the coding) Example: Worked in some other misc editor's notes...

ANYWAY...

I'd post it, but it's like 40 pages long... too long for a forum post. Furthermore, I'm not sure if we've put any rules or forum bans in place against this sort of thing being posted or not since this stuff originally leaked last night.

But if anyone wants to like... read this thing... I did spend all day working on it... I have a word file... and would appreciate some help and/or clarification on the matter, if someone wants to provide it...


I would be interested in reading that.

Honestly, I dove headfirst into the spoilers knowing exactly what I was getting myself into, and I don't feel that my experience with the Story Mode will be weakened to the point that it is rendered unenjoyable. It's like when I found out who the killer was in Heavy Rain before buying the game, but on a lower scale. I still enjoyed the crap out of Heavy Rain - and there's no secret or twist in this story that's as pivotal as that was. Bottom line being, I'm not too bothered by being spoiled.

Plus, I would have never been able to avoid it for long if I wanted to - my burning curiosity over whether or not the writing was going to be cringe-inducing would have overpowered me, fast.
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03/10/2011 03:42 AM (UTC)
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Shadowspawn Wrote:
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I know that Raiden is basically going mad during the story since he just makes things worse, but he just comes off as stupid. If he knew about the loophole the entire time with the merging of the realms without winning Mortal Kombat, then why didn't he just let Shao Kahn win way back when. The amulet that Raiden has still has not healed so Armageddon is still on the way and nothing has changed yet so I guess we will find out what happens in the next game when MK 4 is re-done.


That's the best/worst part honestly...

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The whole story leads up to this big reveal/twist that Shao Kahn was supposed to win so the Elder Gods could interfere so Raiden lets him win, the Elder Gods interfere... and it doesn't do shit! It makes the whole thing completely pointless.


I get that they had an end point in mind and needed to get there but turning Raiden into a bumbling fool who constantly fucks everything up and in fact makes everything worse is pretty dumb. Since Deadly Alliance, the series as a whole has had this whole cynical edge where the good guys either always lose or at best win pyrrhic victories. Liu Kang gets killed, the bad guys win, then another bad guy comes and wins even more and he's defeated but it turned out that was part of another plan which dooms reality so Raiden sends a message back in time and then turns into a babbling retard and the bad guys win.

It's pretty ridiculous. The plot isn't really Good vs. Evil now, but Evil vs. Retarded.
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03/10/2011 03:48 AM (UTC)
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Pretentious Wrote:
The plot isn't really Good vs. Evil now, but Evil vs. Retarded.

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Just like real life.
:3
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IamTheS
03/10/2011 03:57 AM (UTC)
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Guys! Gals! Don't you see!? The end of this game doesn't lead into MK4! It leads to....

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Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe 2: Blackest Night


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Gillbob316
03/10/2011 04:13 AM (UTC)
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One thing to note...

On more than a few occasions...

The arcade mode endings COMPLETELY contradict Story Mode...

Like characters who died in Story mode for instance, have endings that say they defeated Shao Kahn and stopped his invasion...

So it's still at least... -possible- that the next game (if we stay with this rebooted continuity) could disregard things from this game...

I'm not saying it would be a very eloquant solution, but since the game already contradicts ITSELF...

It's not THAT hard to believe that the next sequel could contradict as much or as little of this game as the team pleases...

Let's face it... if the last few games have taught us anything at this point, it's that this team of writers absolutely blows at keeping their own canon neat and tidy.
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