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11/20/2008 04:14 AM (UTC)
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I have 10 minutes when the MK team had over 2 years. Generous. Snarky? Ironic.


Go search up the interviews, they didn't plan MKVSDCU for two years, they were working on the then MK8 but at the last minute switched to MKVSDCU when they were given the offer.
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11/20/2008 04:15 AM (UTC)
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At least we know you would be in love with a Mortal Kombat game that has a ridiculously intricate story line and vast satisfying endings if it was rated E and they fought Sesame Street characters.

A good idea at first, until you realise every conclusion is just your character at the end of the book. Pfffft!
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11/20/2008 04:17 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
JayboH Wrote:
At least we know you would be in love with a Mortal Kombat game that has a ridiculously intricate story line and vast satisfying endings if it was rated E and they fought Sesame Street characters.

A good idea at first, until you realise every conclusion is just your character at the end of the book. Pfffft!


????? huh???
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11/20/2008 04:26 AM (UTC)
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lol
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11/20/2008 04:32 AM (UTC)
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people on this site are really pretentious. i mean my god some of you are shit heads.

anyway.

i think there has been a DC factor but MK sells well anyway doesn't it. i don't think adding popular comic book characters hurt it too much outside of half of everyones fatality being shitty. but usually half the characters fatalities are shitty anyway.

plus this game plays a million times better than the last set of games so i think it would still get all the positive responses even if the other 11 characters were from MK.
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11/20/2008 04:33 AM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
JayboH Wrote:
At least we know you would be in love with a Mortal Kombat game that has a ridiculously intricate story line and vast satisfying endings if it was rated E and they fought Sesame Street characters.

A good idea at first, until you realise every conclusion is just your character at the end of the book. Pfffft!


????? huh???

I find the best way to understand Mick Lucifer's shitty jokes is to ignore them.
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11/20/2008 04:36 AM (UTC)
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Deathbearer Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
JayboH Wrote:
At least we know you would be in love with a Mortal Kombat game that has a ridiculously intricate story line and vast satisfying endings if it was rated E and they fought Sesame Street characters.

A good idea at first, until you realise every conclusion is just your character at the end of the book. Pfffft!


????? huh???

I find the best way to understand Mick Lucifer's shitty jokes is to ignore them.


Lmao, thanks for the advice, I never understand what he's rambling,lol.
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11/20/2008 04:55 AM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
SubMan799 Wrote:
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Defensive much? Wow. I think you are heaping alot of garbage on me for other's comments.

At least we know you would be in love with a Mortal Kombat game that has a ridiculously intricate story line and vast satisfying endings if it was rated E and they fought Sesame Street characters.


Just ignore Ahnka, that's what I've learned to do.


What have i've honestly done to be ignored? Tell me, please. Me stating that I don't like the game? Is that it? Should I get on my knees and scream "thank you boon, thank you vogel, thank you midway"?


You're a pompous jackass that doesn't know the difference between stating your opinion and trolling. Listen, I don't care if you hate this game, but don't be an ass. Deathbearer hates this game, but he doesn't troll, and I respect his opinion.

aw man, now you're gonna reply back, and we have to start this whole thing over again -_-
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11/20/2008 05:09 AM (UTC)
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You're a pompous jackass that doesn't know the difference between stating your opinion and trolling. Listen, I don't care if you hate this game, but don't be an ass. Deathbearer hates this game, but he doesn't troll, and I respect his opinion.

No, I don't think that's it...
Tragically under exposed and peculiar, sure. Trolling? A rare occasion that it isn't Ahnka who is confused. Unless you're talking about the incessant replies that have completely derailed the thread, but, even then...

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I've been hearing a lot of really positive feedback on the game.

What I wanna know is would the game have gotten better feedback if it didn't feature the DCU characters and was rated M for mature?

I feel like some of the skimming pleasantries about gameplay details might've still be there, but it's hard to imagine the right people paying quite as much attention without the magnet of the DC name.

Frankly, I'm still surprised it's reviewing as well as it is!

Actually, the thought occurs that it'll be very interesting to see how the final sales tally. Obviously the slight escalation to M and removal of DC would whip some of the diehards into a frenzy, but then, I think most of them are buying any way.

It'll be very interesting to see if positive reviews (and the simple presence of DC) will compensate, or even surpass, the usual MK support. Support that's apparently remained quite strong, despite the general air of negativity surrounding the last few iterations within the fanbase.
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11/20/2008 03:23 PM (UTC)
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:
I've been hearing a lot of really positive feedback on the game.

What I wanna know is would the game have gotten better feedback if it didn't feature the DCU characters and was rated M for mature?


Maybe a little, but not much I think. I think the positive feedback has more to do with the fact they returned back to a more 2D based game. The fighting engine doesn't suck like before. So it seems, I haven't played the game.
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11/20/2008 03:43 PM (UTC)
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Nah, I actually like the T rating. It's not that I wouldn't want scorpion to rip superman's head off, but I think that the t rating can work with mortal kombat games.


Have you seen Wonderwoman's brutality? Flash's second brutal? You call that crap good?


He didn't call them good, just that a T rating can work. You don't need Gore to make a good MK game. All you need is a good amount of imagination, which looking at most Finishers and endings, Midway is clearly lacking.

It's not the T ratings fault that the Finishers suck.
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11/20/2008 03:47 PM (UTC)
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A T rating does limit what can be done with the finishers. It takes more imagination to rip someone apart than it does to throw them into the air and punch them down or to put them in a crater. There's simply more ways to mutilate someone than there are to smash them into the ground.
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11/20/2008 03:49 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
JayboH Wrote:
Defensive much? Wow. I think you are heaping alot of garbage on me for other's comments.

At least we know you would be in love with a Mortal Kombat game that has a ridiculously intricate story line and vast satisfying endings if it was rated E and they fought Sesame Street characters.


I wouldn't be interested because i'm eighteen years old, a grown man,why would I want to play a sesame street game? Since you wanna get snarky then you have ten minutes to write me a good ass MK VS Sesame Street story, get going.


You're an adult, that doesn't make you grown.
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11/20/2008 03:56 PM (UTC)
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Deathbearer Wrote:
A T rating does limit what can be done with the finishers. It takes more imagination to rip someone apart than it does to throw them into the air and punch them down or to put them in a crater. There's simply more ways to mutilate someone than there are to smash them into the ground.


Just because there's tons of ways to mutilate someone, doesn't make the finishers any more creative. Because you are restricted and can't just give the entire cast a move where they rip someone's limb off, you have to think even harder.
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11/20/2008 04:01 PM (UTC)
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Nathan Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
A T rating does limit what can be done with the finishers. It takes more imagination to rip someone apart than it does to throw them into the air and punch them down or to put them in a crater. There's simply more ways to mutilate someone than there are to smash them into the ground.


Just because there's tons of ways to mutilate someone, doesn't make the finishers any more creative. Because you are restricted and can't just give the entire cast a move where they rip someone's limb off, you have to think even harder.

It doesn't take hard thinking to say "oh well lets have her tie the guy up and swing him around a few times and BAM! ground slam." or "well we used this fatality before, let's recycle it!" A four year old could have come up with these finishers.
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11/20/2008 04:11 PM (UTC)
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Deathbearer Wrote:
It doesn't take hard thinking to say "oh well lets have her tie the guy up and swing him around a few times and BAM! ground slam." or "well we used this fatality before, let's recycle it!" A four year old could have come up with these finishers.


I think you're not getting what I'm saying. I didn't say the Finishers in MKvsDC are good. Just that a T rated MK game can be done.

The finishers, at least most of them, in MKvsDC suck ass. But it's not the T ratings fault. It's because Midway lacks any imagination and can't make decent Finishers without mutilating someone.

Watch some Marvel Nemesis Finishers. They have some good finishers, even though it's T rated.
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False. I loved the DC story. The MK side was a little more lame IMO. I love this new fighting engine, which is the reason most people play fighting games.


Who in the hell are you to declare my opinion as false?


Someone that speaks the truth. Now get out and play something else as this game clearly doesn't suit you all that well...
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11/20/2008 08:34 PM (UTC)
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I haven't heard any positive responses about DCs inclusion. All I hear is about the gameplay and new modes. So yeah, without DC and a more hardcore, mature design, I think it would have gotten even better responses.
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11/20/2008 09:33 PM (UTC)
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What bothers me is that they could have totally done a rated M game. A bunch of the DC comics I've read recently such as Teen Titans #58 and Titans #1 among others include excessive violance. For example Miss Martian rips off Blue Beetles back with his spine and rips Kid Devil's head apart by the horns. I almost feel like these images are the illustrators acknowledging the game and saying "hey, DC can be rated M".
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11/20/2008 09:40 PM (UTC)
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Well no DC characters would have meant

- More MK characters (possible inclusion of absent favourites such as Mileena, Reptile, Johnny Cage, etc.
- More MK arenas
- Viscious, gory fatalities and increased levels of blood - MK's trademark

So as well as earning more hype from MK fans as a continuation of the saga, instead of turning fans away through conterversy, the game might have been even more well recieved.
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11/20/2008 10:36 PM (UTC)
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:
I've been hearing a lot of really positive feedback on the game.

What I wanna know is would the game have gotten better feedback if it didn't feature the DCU characters and was rated M for mature?


Hm..

Yea I think so. I think it was Skillz who said it along the lines of how I'm thinking. And it's that the appeal is to this attempt to add that 2D feel back into the game mechanic. That's one plus.

After playing a while now, I'd be satisfied if they stuck with something like this engine, and just fixed on it over the next couple games. Means I like it, but it's not good enough yet. It's....it's "okay for now".

DC characters don't have anything to do with that but, I think without this bizzare concept there, people would have been more inclined to just like the game.

They did a few things right as a matter of fact. Size of the roster is good, gameplay is fine, and the good voice talent are all +'s. However there's too many negatives to chew on with the DC characters in there.

Huge one is the whole story element. And since that is so, a few of the character portrals are off. The thing is, this element motivates the game to begin with, so without that "DC thing" hanging over the game, I feel alot less would be there to complain about right out front.

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11/21/2008 01:58 PM (UTC)
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TheAdder Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
JayboH Wrote:
Defensive much? Wow. I think you are heaping alot of garbage on me for other's comments.

At least we know you would be in love with a Mortal Kombat game that has a ridiculously intricate story line and vast satisfying endings if it was rated E and they fought Sesame Street characters.


I wouldn't be interested because i'm eighteen years old, a grown man,why would I want to play a sesame street game? Since you wanna get snarky then you have ten minutes to write me a good ass MK VS Sesame Street story, get going.


You're an adult, that doesn't make you grown.


And the difference?
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11/21/2008 02:09 PM (UTC)
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xmenotux Wrote:
What bothers me is that they could have totally done a rated M game. A bunch of the DC comics I've read recently such as Teen Titans #58 and Titans #1 among others include excessive violance. For example Miss Martian rips off Blue Beetles back with his spine and rips Kid Devil's head apart by the horns. I almost feel like these images are the illustrators acknowledging the game and saying "hey, DC can be rated M".

Comics get away with a lot more than markets that potentially reach a wider, more mainstream audience. DC's been a company that's taken some criticism for not labelling books like this as mature, but for the time being, it's relatively common place. You'll find this sort of violence in a lot of major books printed in the last few years, even around the misperceived softy characters, like Green Lantern, or Superman. [ie; Demo 1, Demo 2, Demo 3]
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11/21/2008 07:53 PM (UTC)
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As much as I love the DC characters in this game, I do think they hindered more than they helped. People aren't gonna talk about the gameplay improvements if they don't like the initial concept. A simple hypothetical: A company could make the greatest first person shooter ever in terms of gameplay, but if said game starred Kermit The Frog, it's not gonna be well received. Now I'm not saying MK Vs DCU is the greatest fighting game ever, but it is the best MK game in recent years.
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11/21/2008 08:12 PM (UTC)
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I wish Kyle Rayner was in it instead of Hal, like in your sig.
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