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matthewhaddad
09/12/2006 12:36 PM (UTC)
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^Okay, thats is all cool. Thanks grin
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09/12/2006 08:13 PM (UTC)
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Shadaloo Wrote:
Well, it seems that we'd like to mix-and-match the best possible results, so that's the route we'll be taking.

Also, don't forget, there's the matter of an alternate costume. Even if a KAK can only have one costume, a second one could just as easily be created and use instead. All up to the player to pick which one they want. :D


So, are you saying you agree about entering separate attributes costomes, stories, special moves, and fighting styles, as a pose to just one whole KAK? ^_^

If so, grin
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09/13/2006 12:40 AM (UTC)
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Subzero2 Wrote:
Shadaloo Wrote:
Well, it seems that we'd like to mix-and-match the best possible results, so that's the route we'll be taking.

Also, don't forget, there's the matter of an alternate costume. Even if a KAK can only have one costume, a second one could just as easily be created and use instead. All up to the player to pick which one they want. :D


So, are you saying you agree about entering separate attributes costomes, stories, special moves, and fighting styles, as a pose to just one whole KAK? ^_^

If so, grin


Ehh, 'fraid not. That would count as two seperate Khameleons. I mean just one Khameleon with one moveset, story, but two costumes - just like everyone else. You know, as authentic as possible.
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09/13/2006 01:09 AM (UTC)
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Well, I didnt mean, make 2 Khameleons, I meant You make 1 Khamealeon and enter it, but split up its components... nvm, now I'm confusing my self. But I didnt mean make 2 lol.

I will be ok with whatever the outcome is I guess. I'm not real good with putting my thoughts into words so I really can't theoroghly explain what I mean.
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09/13/2006 12:05 PM (UTC)
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Excellent points matthewhaddad.

I'd just like to agree with the points about the fans affecting the game in your first post Shadaloo. I think this is a superb idea and another tremendous opportunity for us users. I'm for anything that involves the buyers actuall influence on the product of their liking.

I had a question about the nessesity of KAK though. I understand where you're going with this entirely, but (dun dun dun..) shouldn't we at least leave the door open for those that may want to submit a self created portrait?

I've seen some of the incredible stuff that can be done for a sought after character. Namely Aceleus's (I think) drawing of her....and the bio. There are a couple others floating around here too.

Reason why I aske is because, if she proves not to be in this game, we may influence the appearance and likeness of her on the next gen consoles. New capabilities//posibilities there I think. It may allow people to express themselves a little more than the KAK system is prepare for too.

Ex. You might find a peice of armour or something you can't let her have in the game. So, you draw it out. (Male armour vs female armour or something)

Besides that, The detail paid to a drawing or painting or whatever could allow more people to work on the "project" and create more nostalgia amongst the agreed final result. Both in looks and in story.

A pale ploy for "teamwork" I know, but could the "open door" policy work here as far as drawn art/pure created art? And have you decided the time allowed to work on this character to be a finnal thing yet?(Nov 1st to begin - til when?)

Sry for the "novel" sized ramble.
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09/17/2006 09:49 PM (UTC)
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ThePredator151 Wrote:
Excellent points matthewhaddad.

I'd just like to agree with the points about the fans affecting the game in your first post Shadaloo. I think this is a superb idea and another tremendous opportunity for us users. I'm for anything that involves the buyers actuall influence on the product of their liking.

I had a question about the nessesity of KAK though. I understand where you're going with this entirely, but (dun dun dun..) shouldn't we at least leave the door open for those that may want to submit a self created portrait?

I've seen some of the incredible stuff that can be done for a sought after character. Namely Aceleus's (I think) drawing of her....and the bio. There are a couple others floating around here too.

Reason why I aske is because, if she proves not to be in this game, we may influence the appearance and likeness of her on the next gen consoles. New capabilities//posibilities there I think. It may allow people to express themselves a little more than the KAK system is prepare for too.

Ex. You might find a peice of armour or something you can't let her have in the game. So, you draw it out. (Male armour vs female armour or something)

Besides that, The detail paid to a drawing or painting or whatever could allow more people to work on the "project" and create more nostalgia amongst the agreed final result. Both in looks and in story.

A pale ploy for "teamwork" I know, but could the "open door" policy work here as far as drawn art/pure created art? And have you decided the time allowed to work on this character to be a finnal thing yet?(Nov 1st to begin - til when?)

Sry for the "novel" sized ramble.


Eh, I'd really prefer that we kept it strictly to KAK, like I said before - help the team to see how well we can use this feature, so on, so forth. Of course, if one wants to make the character based on their own artwork, then that's all good, too. We're going to have to keep on alert for people who copy others' designes and pass them off as their own, also...

I think that we can give this about a month. A lot of fine-tuning is going to be required for this. I'd think that is more than enough time.

Now then, we're going to need judges, and what could be better than judges who can critique the work based on how effective it is in their own speciality?

What would be optimal would be two or three judges for each category; say, for example:

Appearance

Someone like Aculeus, who can whip up amazing stuff, would be great to have here.

Storyline

Obviously, someone to who MK's storyline is of prime importance above all things.

Gameplay

Now, gameplay is a very thin-edged sword - I'd like an expert on the topic, someone who knows what styles are best in terms of balancing, and how well they suit her.

As a major storyline buff myself, I think I'll be occupying a slot as one of the storyline judges.

Do I have volunteers for any category? Suggestions for other categories?
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09/18/2006 02:05 AM (UTC)
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Thats what I'm talkin bout glasses
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09/18/2006 02:15 AM (UTC)
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i volunteer to be a storyline judge
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09/18/2006 02:35 AM (UTC)
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i will volunteer for the actual looks itself. i know wut Khameleon should look like, but im open to ideas. so... ithink i should judge the looks of the character.
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09/18/2006 03:15 AM (UTC)
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is anyone else gonna volunteer, we need some progress
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09/18/2006 12:07 PM (UTC)
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When it comes to the styles for Khameleon, does it include both real and made-up styles or just real styles?
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09/18/2006 12:23 PM (UTC)
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i want to volunteer for a story line judge as i too am a story line buff!!!! btw are we going to judge in the thread or through IM?
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09/18/2006 01:33 PM (UTC)
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As for moves, I'm good at coming up with good ideas for moves for her but as for her storyline, I'll give it a shot at judging that ^_^. Regarding her moves however, she needs one from frost, mileena, tanya, kitana, and jade as well as invisibility ^_^. Either way, Shao Kahn is an enemy and Reptile is an ally of Khameleon.
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09/18/2006 04:10 PM (UTC)
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Since not too many ppl have volenteered to judge the appearences, I guess I can apply for that position. ^_^ If its okay with everybody? I am very objective in my oppinions btw so I most def. won't be judging by the creator if I was a judge. I would Judge the appearence only.
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09/18/2006 05:26 PM (UTC)
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i just IM'd aculus about judging apperances waiting for reply
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09/18/2006 06:28 PM (UTC)
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i just IM'd aculus about judging apperances waiting for reply


ok. Isn't there supposed to be like 3 judges for each part?
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CrystalLio
09/18/2006 11:01 PM (UTC)
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BAH! i applied for the appearances!
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travm013
09/18/2006 11:04 PM (UTC)
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ill judge if u want
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HellrazerHD
09/18/2006 11:20 PM (UTC)
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Wouldn't it be easier to just figure this out first before we should pick judges? I mean everybody saying I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that is a bit childish.
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09/18/2006 11:32 PM (UTC)
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I'll be a judge too if I can.
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PillowPants
09/18/2006 11:50 PM (UTC)
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thats true, we should wait until we' ve got evrything 100% set up
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KnightMysterio
09/19/2006 12:38 AM (UTC)
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It's a good idea.

Really.

It is.

I just don't like it at all.

Why? Because if Khameleon isn't in the game (and I'm still not sure I believe that she isn't, some things Cinder has said aren't sitting right with me), making her in KAK would be pointless. It wouldn't be officially Khameleon, it'd just be a fanchara with her name on it.

I want an official appearance of Khameleon, not a KAK.

Which is why I will not be participating in this contest.

I wish luck to whomever decides to participate in this, while not abandoning my hope that she is, in fact, in the game.
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09/19/2006 02:11 AM (UTC)
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KnightMysterio Wrote:
It's a good idea.

Really.

It is.

I just don't like it at all.

Why? Because if Khameleon isn't in the game (and I'm still not sure I believe that she isn't, some things Cinder has said aren't sitting right with me), making her in KAK would be pointless. It wouldn't be officially Khameleon, it'd just be a fanchara with her name on it.

I want an official appearance of Khameleon, not a KAK.

Which is why I will not be participating in this contest.

I wish luck to whomever decides to participate in this, while not abandoning my hope that she is, in fact, in the game.


Well, that's your call. But I am intending to go about conversing with the MK Team on this. You never know, stranger things have happened. If they like our work and make a creation official, you may be kicking yoursself later. :D

Now, to answer a couple of questions: We'll be doing this through IM mostly. As for martial arts styles, it's important to remember that not onlt will we be able to select pre-made styles, we can make our own.

There's still plenty of time before the game is out, and even longer will it be before the whole thing's been played through enough to ascertain her presence (or lack thereof). So no judges will be selected just yet, I'm just compiling a list of people who may be interested here. tongue
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09/19/2006 03:07 AM (UTC)
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I'd like to be considered for a design judge.

If you need credentials, check the "requst thread" in the fan sub forum.
I could be like...a "New Blood" judge of sorts.

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09/19/2006 06:43 PM (UTC)
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the first three to post is probalbly best
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