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I need a new sig, something with Kabal from UMK3 would be sweet. Just imagine that here
04/25/2009 02:34 PM (UTC)
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maybe WB will be able to churn out more MK films and comics finally
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04/25/2009 02:56 PM (UTC)
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FUCK YES! Herea re some points I'd like to address

Lego MK: This may be a side franchise such as the filler games we get, it could play like ELGO star wars ELGO batman and LEGO Indy, and they could very well have fatalities, I remember in LEGO star Wars 2 Chewy could rip off his opponents arms, and it DID have similar gameplay to Shaolin Monks if you think about it, right down to the air attack into the ground, so this may be an MK thing to reach younger audiences.

The M rating: They seem smart, and like MINION said, they don't have many M properties, which is why they'll keep it. They need games that target our type of audience, and I'm sure they saw how alot of us rejected the T rating in MK vs DC (which don't kid yourself, we WILL get another one) but if they keep the M rating, then I don't know how much would change, but it would help to get WB games headed towards ALL audiences.

WB doesn''t make quality games: Batman: Arkham Asylum, now shut up. (Plus many more, hell, every game I bought by them has kicked ass.)

Sequel to MK vs DC NOOOOO: Quit your whining, they wouldn't have one directly after the first one, porbably after MK9 or 10. Which granted isn't that long, but it would still give us a few core MK games in between.

So yeah, as I was saying, FUCK YEA, HELL YES, and FUCKYEAR
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04/25/2009 03:38 PM (UTC)
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No one ever mentioned an MK LEGO game >_>
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04/25/2009 03:45 PM (UTC)
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People brought it up earlier in the thread. I was addressing the possibility not the fact
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04/25/2009 04:04 PM (UTC)
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Vash_15 Wrote:
FUCK YES! Herea re some points I'd like to address

Lego MK: This may be a side franchise such as the filler games we get, it could play like ELGO star wars ELGO batman and LEGO Indy, and they could very well have fatalities, I remember in LEGO star Wars 2 Chewy could rip off his opponents arms, and it DID have similar gameplay to Shaolin Monks if you think about it, right down to the air attack into the ground, so this may be an MK thing to reach younger audiences.

The M rating: They seem smart, and like MINION said, they don't have many M properties, which is why they'll keep it. They need games that target our type of audience, and I'm sure they saw how alot of us rejected the T rating in MK vs DC (which don't kid yourself, we WILL get another one) but if they keep the M rating, then I don't know how much would change, but it would help to get WB games headed towards ALL audiences.

WB doesn''t make quality games: Batman: Arkham Asylum, now shut up. (Plus many more, hell, every game I bought by them has kicked ass.)

Sequel to MK vs DC NOOOOO: Quit your whining, they wouldn't have one directly after the first one, porbably after MK9 or 10. Which granted isn't that long, but it would still give us a few core MK games in between.

So yeah, as I was saying, FUCK YEA, HELL YES, and FUCKYEAR


LEGO MK: The LAST thing I want is for MK to become some child-friendly franchise where 4-year-olds can enjoy the wonders of happy murder and soul-devouring. What next, LEGO Gears of War? LEGO Silent Hill? The concept is so anit-awesome it makes my head hurt.

The M rating: T-rating, as many believe, is like PG-13. More people (read: parents) are willing to purchase T-rated games, which broadens their audience. MK vs DC was not a major success, but it did make money, and most of it was likely not from the hardcore crowd but from the casual fans who saw Batman front and center on the cover. If a T-rated MK game worked for WB, why would they try and intentionally limit their audience again? To be fair, they do have several M-rated games, but it's unknown how willing they are to push for a hard "M" rating over a more market-friendly "T" rating.

WB doesn't make quality games: Wow, you must have some magic time-traveling device, because the last time I checked Arkham Asylum wasn't even OUT yet, so you don't know if it's a good game, a bad game, or a mediocre game. It certainly looks good, it's gotten lots of press, but in the end, the final scores haven't come in. And going through all of WB Interactive's past catalogue, it's pretty pathetic ("Enter the Matrix", "Speed Racer", "300: March to Glory", etc.) Not a single game in their catalogue has a metacritic score above 80% (with the exception of one Lord of the Rings game).

Sequel to MK vs DC: Stop our whining? Why should we? We're MK fans on a MK forum expressing our interest or disinterest at whether we want a sequel to a gimmicky crossover or a core MK game and offering valid arguments to back it up. MK vs DC alienated many hardcore fans (such as myself and most of my friends), and there really is no guarantee they'll go back to the basics and NOT give us another forced crossover. Why would they? They've not stated one way or the other for certain what the next MK is going to be like, so I'm stating here and now that I don't want another crossover but a true MK... the game Boon promised us three years ago.... one that's "dark, gritty, and violent as hell." WB is a studio first and game publisher second; I'm more convinced they'd want Batman on more game boxes then they would Sub-Zero and Scorpion cluttering up store shelves.


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04/25/2009 04:42 PM (UTC)
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hahahahaa

I always had a feeling this would happen even way before Midway started to officially go down hill with all this money issue stuff.I personally would not be bothered if this were to happen.I hope WB does their best with MK if that is in fact who does buy them.I like to remind people that it was the ESRB was the reason why we here in america had toned down finishing moves.Also I remember in a interview where ed stated that they just assumed they would not be able to do a M rated game and never asked WB so just went ahead with the T rating.If I'm wrong then i am wrong but thats what I remember hearing in a interview/podcast.
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04/25/2009 05:04 PM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
Vash_15 Wrote:
FUCK YES! Herea re some points I'd like to address

Lego MK: This may be a side franchise such as the filler games we get, it could play like ELGO star wars ELGO batman and LEGO Indy, and they could very well have fatalities, I remember in LEGO star Wars 2 Chewy could rip off his opponents arms, and it DID have similar gameplay to Shaolin Monks if you think about it, right down to the air attack into the ground, so this may be an MK thing to reach younger audiences.

The M rating: They seem smart, and like MINION said, they don't have many M properties, which is why they'll keep it. They need games that target our type of audience, and I'm sure they saw how alot of us rejected the T rating in MK vs DC (which don't kid yourself, we WILL get another one) but if they keep the M rating, then I don't know how much would change, but it would help to get WB games headed towards ALL audiences.

WB doesn''t make quality games: Batman: Arkham Asylum, now shut up. (Plus many more, hell, every game I bought by them has kicked ass.)

Sequel to MK vs DC NOOOOO: Quit your whining, they wouldn't have one directly after the first one, porbably after MK9 or 10. Which granted isn't that long, but it would still give us a few core MK games in between.

So yeah, as I was saying, FUCK YEA, HELL YES, and FUCKYEAR


LEGO MK: The LAST thing I want is for MK to become some child-friendly franchise where 4-year-olds can enjoy the wonders of happy murder and soul-devouring. What next, LEGO Gears of War? LEGO Silent Hill? The concept is so anit-awesome it makes my head hurt.

The M rating: T-rating, as many believe, is like PG-13. More people (read: parents) are willing to purchase T-rated games, which broadens their audience. MK vs DC was not a major success, but it did make money, and most of it was likely not from the hardcore crowd but from the casual fans who saw Batman front and center on the cover. If a T-rated MK game worked for WB, why would they try and intentionally limit their audience again? To be fair, they do have several M-rated games, but it's unknown how willing they are to push for a hard "M" rating over a more market-friendly "T" rating.

WB doesn't make quality games: Wow, you must have some magic time-traveling device, because the last time I checked Arkham Asylum wasn't even OUT yet, so you don't know if it's a good game, a bad game, or a mediocre game. It certainly looks good, it's gotten lots of press, but in the end, the final scores haven't come in. And going through all of WB Interactive's past catalogue, it's pretty pathetic ("Enter the Matrix", "Speed Racer", "300: March to Glory", etc.) Not a single game in their catalogue has a metacritic score above 80% (with the exception of one Lord of the Rings game).

Sequel to MK vs DC: Stop our whining? Why should we? We're MK fans on a MK forum expressing our interest or disinterest at whether we want a sequel to a gimmicky crossover or a core MK game and offering valid arguments to back it up. MK vs DC alienated many hardcore fans (such as myself and most of my friends), and there really is no guarantee they'll go back to the basics and NOT give us another forced crossover. Why would they? They've not stated one way or the other for certain what the next MK is going to be like, so I'm stating here and now that I don't want another crossover but a true MK... the game Boon promised us three years ago.... one that's "dark, gritty, and violent as hell." WB is a studio first and game publisher second; I'm more convinced they'd want Batman on more game boxes then they would Sub-Zero and Scorpion cluttering up store shelves.




LEGO MK: Is basically one again Shaolin monks with Legos, and whats the problem, if they sdwitched out the LEGOs for more realisitc graphics I'm sure you'd be drooling like a fanbaby.

The M Rating: While MK vs DC DID make money, it doesn't mean T for life, and big freaking deal, parents won't buy MK, this has happened before, and time and time again tey've managed to sell. Honestly I think if anything they would try to either push the T limit even FARTHER or keep the Mr ating as is, and this is worst case scenario.

WB doesn't make quality games: You're right about them being a studio first and Game studio second, but if they're willing to purchase the MK franchise, they know they can't run it on movies and mediocrity. They would give the MK team (new or real) the time they need to make a decent game, instead of pushing out one shit and one game every year.And if they did keep that deadline, they would give them supplies and hopefully a bigger team.

Sequel to MK vs DC: Yes, stop whining. Why did it alienate? Because it didn't have gory fatalities? I don't see the problem they were still there. Buckets of blood didn't fly out at every punch? There was still blood. Gameplay was bad? Best MK gameplay I've seen in a while. Let's face it, MK vs DC is probably the best gameplay wise, they just toned down the violence a bit. If they had to do it again, I wouldn't question it, because they'd be pumping out another kickass game. And if you don't think it was kickass, then I would think you want quantity of violene over quality of gameplay. Now this entire opinion is just that, an opinion, you can disagree with this, but seriosuly, most of the poeple on this site basically said aroudn MKA that MK was going downhill, and I kind of agreed. MK vs DC brought it back into public interest.
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04/25/2009 05:09 PM (UTC)
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lol, Garlador, most of us started playing when we were four years old anyways. Just saying
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04/25/2009 05:18 PM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
lol, Garlador, most of us started playing when we were four years old anyways. Just saying


I was 3 tongue
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04/25/2009 06:52 PM (UTC)
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Vash_15 Wrote:
SubMan799 Wrote:
lol, Garlador, most of us started playing when we were four years old anyways. Just saying


I was 3 tongue


Stop making me feel like an old foggy. tongue

I'll just say there is quite a number of people who didn't like MK vs DCU, not for its gameplay but its concept and execution. There's a REASON many fans didn't like a censored T-rated game featuring Captain Marvel and Lex Luthor, and I'll easily conceded it had better gameplay. To many, that's all that matters, but to others, it was the mood, plot, story, violence, and characters that drove the original MK games. It's all about what your priorities are.

.... and serious, 3? What the hell?
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04/25/2009 08:50 PM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
Vash_15 Wrote:
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lol, Garlador, most of us started playing when we were four years old anyways. Just saying


I was 3 tongue


Stop making me feel like an old foggy. tongue

I'll just say there is quite a number of people who didn't like MK vs DCU, not for its gameplay but its concept and execution. There's a REASON many fans didn't like a censored T-rated game featuring Captain Marvel and Lex Luthor, and I'll easily conceded it had better gameplay. To many, that's all that matters, but to others, it was the mood, plot, story, violence, and characters that drove the original MK games. It's all about what your priorities are.

.... and serious, 3? What the hell?


I was born in 94 don't get me wrong, I was at a friends house, it was UMK3. And I personally love the DC universe so I was hooked form the start, andthe story wasn't bad
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04/25/2009 10:22 PM (UTC)
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Once again, I'll bring up Condemned 2 and FEAR, both of which are published by WB. The ONLY reason MKvsDC was sanitized was due to the fact it included DC characters.

The only difference here, is C2 involved SEGA & F2 involved Monolith Productions.My point MIDWAY isn't going to be a company in charge of MK if WB buys it. Unless It becomes WBMidway. Which I kinda doubt. But there could be an agreement between the two, Not really my place to judge or jump conclusions. I'll just sit back and relax and see how it unfolds.
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04/25/2009 10:48 PM (UTC)
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All I'm saying is that WB isn't afraid to release gory games.
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04/25/2009 11:34 PM (UTC)
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All I'm saying is that WB isn't afraid to release gory games.


Just gory games with Superman in them.

The least DC could've done was give us a proper MK comic for that whole debacle, and, no, the mini-comic by Tobias doesn't count.
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04/26/2009 02:06 AM (UTC)
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Well, I loved MK since I first played it in my early childhood, and I've been watching the various cartoons about DC and have been collecting their comics since 2004.

So, for me, MK vs DCU was a dream. The fact of why it had to be a T for Team game didn't make sense, as I do recall Infinite Crisis having Superboy-Prime punch off a Titans head, ripped off Risk's arm (and ripped off his OTHER arm, in a XD moment in the SC: Superman-Prime special). They're about to have an event where the dead rise, and a universe wide war. People dying violently and gorily in DC is common. But, that can possibly be fixed with a joint game.

Also, maybe we can finally get a MK comic, ongoing. Get a solid writer who knows the history, and a fantastic artist, and we got a go.

The budget, and not having to put out a rushed MK every year or two to save the company will only make the games better with more testing time and development time.

Let's just hope this goes well.
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04/26/2009 02:13 AM (UTC)
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While this sounds all well and good for Midway, as they have a company that can financially back them like Warner Bros., and the fact that WB is interest in Midway's Stanglehold, and MK franchises, but what people seem to be forgetting is weather or not the MK team would be happy staying on. Didn't they announce that the MK team was considering leaving Midway? What's to say they still aren't? Nobody know for certain the exact reasons why the MK team wants to leave Midway. Yeah it could be because of unpaid bonuses, but it could also be that the whole vs DCU idea was forced down their throats as a marketing gimmick to bring in some extra cash, ad having to sacrifice a M rating.

What's to say under WB the MK team isn't still restricted to a T rating? The real question is the WB might get the MK licence, but will it still have Boon & company working on it?
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04/26/2009 03:57 AM (UTC)
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Kabal20 Wrote:
While all this sounds all well and good for Midway, as they have a company that can financially back them like Warner Bros., and the fact that WB is interest in Midway's Stanglehold, and MK franchises, but what people seem to be forgetting is weather or not the MK team would be happy staying on. Didn't they announce that the MK team was considering leaving Midway? What's to say they still aren't? Nobody know for certain the exact reasons why the MK team wants to leave Midway. Yeah it could be because of unpaid bonuses, but it could also be that the while vs DCU idea was forced down their throats as a marketing gimmick to bring in some extra cash, ad having to sacrifice a M rating.

What's to say under the WB the MK team is still restricted to a T rating? The real question is the WB might get MK licence, but will it still have Boon & company behind it still?


He's right, while all the retarded (Midway forums) MK fans curse Boon during the development of every game by saying BOON YOU SUCK BECAUSE (my favorite character isn't in/you did this wrong/etc) he's the only one who can do it right. Anyone else and it wouldnt be MK
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04/26/2009 03:12 PM (UTC)
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please stop whining on WB,their Vg section is full of M rated games,such 300 the game,FEAR,FEAR2 and so on.
Yes we're going to have a sucking Mk vs DCU2,but let's be honest...that was an option also if WB wouldn't buy Midway.

i hope WB make Mk a "multi" franchise keep on making games,movies and comics and if possible also kad games,sticker albums,etc.

in other words....LEZ RESURRECT THE DAMN SAGA!
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04/26/2009 04:20 PM (UTC)
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lastfighter89 Wrote:
please stop whining on WB,their Vg section is full of M rated games,such 300 the game,FEAR,FEAR2 and so on.

Indeed
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04/26/2009 09:22 PM (UTC)
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Lolacaust Wrote:
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Lego Mortal Kombat doesn't sound half bad. Imagine the fatalities!



Compare & Contrast...







So fucking hilarious plus creative... RIOT!!grin
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04/26/2009 09:32 PM (UTC)
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Whatever the case, they better spend a little time in tweaking, giving demos to test while keeping it 3D, taking the best of MK, with good action, speed, technique (like in Tekken), and AWESOME & REALISTIC animation.

BTW is it now possible to have humans digitized like in the old MK but moving in 3D plane? That would seem realistic than the boring & ahem *bad* cough 3D models. I think the 360 and PS3 would be able to handle such a game.
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04/27/2009 11:23 AM (UTC)
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BTW is it now possible to have humans digitized like in the old MK but moving in 3D plane? That would seem realistic than the boring & ahem *bad* cough 3D models. I think the 360 and PS3 would be able to handle such a game.


The technology for it isn't exactly new. I mean, look at what we can do with a green screen and couple programs now days....wow

(Hey, Anybody remember the soap oprea styled atrocity on the Sega Saturn? What was that game?)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that with the polygon counts they're getting on some of these character models lately they could do it. I'd think it might streamline production for the MKTeam, cuz that's the sort of thing they stated out doing. I mean, you still would have to go in and clean things up a bit but....hey, everything's HiDef now. Detail is the point.

I'd probably loose my mind if they did that right. heh..
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04/27/2009 12:32 PM (UTC)
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I believe Midway did it before with War Gods. They mapped digitzed characters over 3D models.
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04/27/2009 07:07 PM (UTC)
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I'd probably loose my mind if they did that right. heh..


It will be a new high for MK team to have such graphics(setting aside War God for mapping) plus a good gameplay. I love Tekken, but I would even more love to see mK kick ass once again, get every govt rallied up, hear mothers gets pissed that their husbands are busy playing MK while their kids are wondering 'WTF" and make it a staple in online kompetition (i had to use K here :D).

And yes, I would loose my mind too. Imagine what how much nuttier the fatalities would be. Well, I can always dream wow
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04/27/2009 11:07 PM (UTC)
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You know I can't help but to laugh at all the "OMG lego MK" posts...ahhh only on here...how amusing.

I think this is a great buy and thing for MK, may I remind some of you that WB games is the same company making the "highly anticipated Batman: Arkham Asylum" because..we all know that game doesn't look remotely "dark" right? lol

WB FTW, I fully support this. Not saying if others were interested they'd be my first pick but out of these 3 companies of late, WB is the logical choice. They'll have the money to have patches if needed and let the MK team take their time unlike Midway who rushes the MK team.
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