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02/20/2011 04:27 AM (UTC)
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No doubt in my mind.

Competition doesn't matter very much to you when you're making your own product the best you can. Also, MK has a healthy, very hungry (...or starved, rather), VERY vocal fanbase telling them exactly what we want them to make based on stuff from other games we've been playing.

I actually look at it like MK has been doing quite well on just about only gimmicks. I think this game represents them finally getting a chance to offer consumers some kind of quality (though, we can't precisely tell what kind of quality)along side those same sort of gimmicks retooled. Something the competition hasn't really had to worry about so much, since MK hasn't given them an uppercut to the chin in years.

MK's always been superior when it came to flashy stuff. Same way the other games have always been superior when it came to gameplay. So I think in true fashion, Street Fighter put together an awesome game with SF4 but, Mortal Kombat is coming behind them to step all over them, and whatever else is out there. I think this is going to replay history. MvC3 is probably really good, but MK is going to obliterate them in popularity and sales.

To tell the truth, I had no real recollection of MvC games until maybe MvC2. That really just means I saw Wolverine and Ryu and flipped right back to Soul Caliber, Tekken, Guilty Gear, Dead or Alive, King of Fighters, and Mortal Kombat.

Mortal Kombat for the win, guys. They're gonna take it all the way.
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02/20/2011 06:01 AM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:

Yeah, I had that problem specifically with character swapping. Took me and my friends a few minutes to realize we had to hold the assists buttons. Speaking of assists, I'm sure that's what's ultimately going to make/break new players. I was never good at MvsC2 because I never understood how to incorporate my assists into the fray, and when I did, more often than not I got badly punished.


I'm no expert by any means, but, from one Amaterasu/Phoenix user to another-
Ammy's "Bloom" assist can get you up to level 5 alarmingly fast. Just use a tank character like Chris, Hulk, or Sentinel to take the damage while Ammy gets Phoenix up to full power. Bloom is my favorite assist in the whole game grin
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TheSoulOfErmac
02/20/2011 08:08 AM (UTC)
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It's hard for me to speak on this as I am an avid MK fan way over any other fighting game so my opinion will be and is biased. I do like MvC3, it's a good game. I didn't get it for the story though, because imo Super Street Fight IV hardly has a story so I knew this game would be lacking in that area. I've beat MvC3 with about half of the roster and none of the endings are really appealing.

Still I do enjoy the chaos of the gameplay. I have and probably will always prefer MK in both the story and gameplay aspects. And I do think that it will overtake for two reasons. One is that by April MvC3 will be two months old and MK will be fresh. Two is because imo people like the gore and MK will surely grab the media attention with what its got. MvC3 is rather an update to an old series while this MK is a reinvention. That is more than enough to overshadow.

Again I'm biased, I'm not trying to hate.
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02/20/2011 09:17 AM (UTC)
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TheSoulOfErmac Wrote:
It's hard for me to speak on this as I am an avid MK fan way over any other fighting game so my opinion will be and is biased. I do like MvC3, it's a good game. I didn't get it for the story though, because imo Super Street Fight IV hardly has a story so I knew this game would be lacking in that area. I've beat MvC3 with about half of the roster and none of the endings are really appealing.

Again I'm biased, I'm not trying to hate.


No, you speak the truth. A few of the endings are funny- Hulk, M.O.D.O.K, but most are either terrible or utterly confusing, Amaterasu? Arthur? She Hulk? WTF!?! The only ending I outright *like* is Phoenix'.

I'm pretty sure the folks at NRS can deliver a *much* more solid story, with better endings. I just hope they don't make it so ridiculously retconvoluted this time.
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02/20/2011 02:00 PM (UTC)
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MK will step over MvC3 come release..in terms of advertising, MK has 2 Bluray Movies coming out, an album, a webseries, and the game. Seriously it's a wrap.
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02/21/2011 07:12 AM (UTC)
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I'm a little dissapointed with MvC3. But for the most part I new what I was getting myself into. When has a capcom fighting game had a story? I also new the game would be unbalanced once Magneto, Storm, Sentienal, and Akuma where announced. My biggest problem is the online. MvC2 online works and there is a spectator mode.

As far as MK goes it will crush it content wise. Not only are there a ton of modes but they also involve the fighting itself. I don't know if the game will outsell MvC3 though. It has an odd release date, it's coming right after a big fighting game, and I just don't know if the casual market will be interested. I hope it works out in the end. I do think it will be a better fighter than MvC3, and I really hope this is MK's chance to shine and make naysayers eat their words.
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02/21/2011 06:26 PM (UTC)
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I honestly tho that mvc3 was gonna overshadow mk9 and i was actually glad that mvc3 came out first but it seems like its gun be the other way around lol.
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02/21/2011 06:39 PM (UTC)
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noobsmoke_mk Wrote:
MK will step over MvC3 come release..in terms of advertising, MK has 2 Bluray Movies coming out, an album, a webseries, and the game. Seriously it's a wrap.


MvC3 has had eleven years of hype >_>
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02/21/2011 10:02 PM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
MvC3 has had eleven years of hype >_>

A mere drop in the ocean compared to Linden Ashby's Oscar worthy performance.
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02/21/2011 10:25 PM (UTC)
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I personally love mvc3 . BUT i started playing mvc2 when 3 was announced, so i wasnt waiting for 11 years... thats prolly why i havnt been as let down as everyone. Im gonna go as far as say i prefer it over the last one, way less frustrating making combos and all around easier to play. (call me crazy its all good)
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02/21/2011 10:47 PM (UTC)
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Based on what you said you saw, here's what problems the games might share, and what problems Mortal Kombat probably won't have.

Problems MK probably won't have:

-People feel like they're playing a beta- As far as I'm concerned, the beta of MK wouldn't even feel like a beta at this point. Anything else addeed from this point on will probably be some tweaks.

-There seems to be tons of problems with online- I highly doubt this will be a problem. I think MKDC had fairly good(but very simple) online mode. They'll probably just build off that and add a bunch of cool stuff.

-Some characters seem way too powerful- They said that there will be edits available for this game without downloading patches, so they could probably fix exploits as soon as they're aware of them.

-Not a lot of game modes- Story, Arcade, Versus, Khallenge Tower, Tag-Team, Online, and practice mode. Not to mention the Krypt. That's plenty of modes.


Problems that MK might have that MVC also had:

-Terrible story (or lack thereof)- If this story is anything like the past "Story Modes" this fear will probably come true. Take lame voice acting, crappy dialogue, and all around dodgy events, and you've got a bad story mode.

-DLC that someone has gone and proved was already on the disc, as a finshed product or about 98% finished- Sounds like something they would do. Anything to make a quick buck.

-$5 for one character of aforementioned DLC- Everything's overpriced. Heck, Xbox users have to pay just to play online!

-A DLC costume pack announced the day after the release date- I would be surprised if they didn't do this, considering how they already started selling DLC costumes three months before the game even comes out. There's bound to be more right after.

No matter what, I will love Mortal Kombat. There's no way it could be worse than MKDC.
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02/24/2011 08:15 AM (UTC)
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Maybe I just don't get this game, or understand why it's so awesome, but I gave it a chance yesterday, and I was disappointed with what I experienced. My friend and I, huge MK fans since childhood, went ahead and tried this game(MvC3) out. Now, I thought MvC2 was ok, not amazing, but fun none the less. He on the other hand, thought it was awesome, and really enjoyed the 2nd one. So he was planning on buying it, and had his pre-order held for 2 months, but ended up not getting it yet due to low money. So I rented it, to give it a try.

Here is an unbiased opinion, from someone who enjoyed the game before, as well as someone who really liked it.

We played 5-10 matches, and literally said "This is kinda boring...I gotta be honest, I'd kinda rather play UMK3." So we played a couple more to see if we just hadn't gotten into it or experienced it enough, but we both agreed it just wasn't that great, and we were more excited to play a game from 17 years ago.

Some mutual complaints from the both of us:

-The roster is lackluster when compared to the 2nd one. Not only does it feel limited, it also seems like half the roster is wasted on lesser known or less popular characters on both Capcom's side, and Marvel's. Where's Ken, Guile, Frank West, or Mega Man? Where's Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Gambit, Iceman, or Venom? Do we really need She Hulk or X-23? Do we really need Morrigan or Felicia? Just seems lame, and we both had a hard time picking our teams, because it just seemed like a sub par selection. If you're gonna do a cross over game, one that people have been waiting for and begging for for over a decade...you would think you would include as many popular characters as possible. Not some C listers just to get their name out there.

-The stage selection is minimal. Sure, they look decent, I especially like the parade one outside the Daily Bugle, but only 9? And not all 9 are that fantastic...hell...1 of the 9 is a gridded training arena. That just seems like a terribly low number to have in a game as big as this.

-Lack of modes. Yes, I know the 2nd only had Arcade and Versus, but I just feel like there should be more. Where's survival or time attack like in SFIV? They at least offer something different to mix things up.

-The gameplay. I know what to expect from this type of game, but I feel as if the quality of the gameplay has decreased from the 2nd one. I could play the 2nd one quite a bit and found it addicting even when I sucked, but this new one just escapes me. I just don't find the addictive nature in it. It seems like a game that relies on the character's popularity and reputation to make it fun, rather than the game itself being that fun. Idk, I am still feeling it out and playing to see if I can find a niche, but as of now i'm just not feeling it.

-DLC. The DLC and the locked content on the disc just pisses me off. This game already feels bare minimum, and to sell stuff that's supposed to already be on the game, for high prices such as $5 a character...is just highway robbery. Capcom is nitorious for this BS, and I think they saw an opporunity to turn this cash cow into an even bigger cash cow...and it's just shit marketing imo.

Overall, if you put out a game, and within the first 30 minutes of playing time the players would rather go and play a game from over a decade ago, there's something wrong. You can chalk it up to me not understanding the game or whatever labels you would like to attach to it, but a successful game is supposed to hook the players in, fans or just casuals. I was a fan, and so was my friend, and we both passed up on it for a game from over a decade and a half ago. He no longer plans to purchase it.

Finally, I must say, I am not hard to please. Anyone who sees me posting on this forum, knows that I generally like almost everything. I am an optimistic guy who finds the good in things. I like most movies I see, like most games I play, and I usually really get addicted to a fun game and can't put it down for hours upon hours. Yet this game had me turned off within the first 30 minutes, and I could care less if I play it again.

So I don't want anyone making it seem like I am just a pessimistic unpleasable person who loves to dislike things etc. I had hopes for this game to be good, but I just can't get into it. I'm not saying the game sucks, I just don't think it's what it was cracked up to be. It damn sure doesn't deliver in what hype was surrounding it, and I don't think there's a person out there that would think this is better than MvC2, or even SFIV.

With all that said, I definitely see MK holding a legit shot at fighting game of the year. I think it has all the potential in the world to make new fans and bring back the old, as well as please the diehard. I guess time will tell, and the results will be there for all to see.
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02/24/2011 02:55 PM (UTC)
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@blackcyborg

I question just how unbiased your overview of the game was. A majority of your complaint is with the roster itself but the real problem is with how you've lost touch with the now popular Capcom and Marvel names.

Yes, X-23 is indeed more popular than Nightcrawler and Gambit. She-Hulk probably is around their same level of popularity. Yes, Morrigan and Felicia are extremely popular in Japan.

Also it's just bad to be comparing MvC2's roster to MvC3. In all of the Versus games their have only been 10-15 new characters made for those games. MvC3's cast of 40 is very good for a new engine.

And yes the DLC on the disc sucks but it's more than likely what this new MK games is going to pull too.
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Jaded-Raven
02/24/2011 03:24 PM (UTC)
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Another example on Marvel VS Capcom 3's crazy unbalanced combo system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uv7Pr915QA&feature;=player_embedded

Chun Li can literally keep one in the air and spam Heel Stomp over and over again. I mean... Whauw... Why make a combo system so unbalanced? It's not even cool...

Rant over...
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Cyborg
02/25/2011 09:01 AM (UTC)
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Hatetriot Wrote:
@blackcyborg

I question just how unbiased your overview of the game was. A majority of your complaint is with the roster itself but the real problem is with how you've lost touch with the now popular Capcom and Marvel names.

Yes, X-23 is indeed more popular than Nightcrawler and Gambit. She-Hulk probably is around their same level of popularity. Yes, Morrigan and Felicia are extremely popular in Japan.

Also it's just bad to be comparing MvC2's roster to MvC3. In all of the Versus games their have only been 10-15 new characters made for those games. MvC3's cast of 40 is very good for a new engine.

And yes the DLC on the disc sucks but it's more than likely what this new MK games is going to pull too.


This video review by Angry Joe, better depicts my feelings for this game. He nails it spot on.

http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2011/02/mvc3-grudge-match-angry-review/

I think so many people are giving this game a free ride, just because it's such a favorite. That's just my opinion. If you don't agree, hey, suit yourself, but I still find the game extremely lacking, and very disappointing. I wanted to like the game, I rented it so I obviously wanted to play it, but found myself disappointed with what was given. Just feels so lack luster. All signs point to Capcom selling enough to make the game feel complete, for an extra cost, which is just BS. If MK screws us with DLC, so be it, I'll still complain...but at least the game itself will feel complete from the start.
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02/25/2011 12:09 PM (UTC)
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I may Sound like a Complete baboon right now, But What's with all the
"The Hair is Nice" Comments?
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02/25/2011 02:04 PM (UTC)
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sev_o6 Wrote:
I may Sound like a Complete baboon right now, But What's with all the
"The Hair is Nice" Comments?


We've been discussing the animation of Kitana's and Sindel's hair, because in the recent footage we've seen it had this odd rubberband effect which didn't look natural at all. So now people think they are funny by commenting on Marvel VS Capcom 3 characters' hair.
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02/25/2011 02:13 PM (UTC)
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@blackcyborg
I watched the review, and sure he had some valid points for the casual gamer. Emphasis on casual gamer.

I am more than willing to spend $60 on a complete and tight gameplay experience and he undersells just how hard it is to make a good fighting game engine. Fluff like story and tutorials aren't necessary for me. Just look at the 3D MKs. It has all these unlocks and extra content but shoddy gameplay and animation don't keep you playing after everything is discovered.

And really he complained about MODOK? I am sure people were thrilled about Shuma Gorath and Spiral when they first showed up.
I did, however, agree on his points about the online. Hopefully that can get patched soon

You think complete is tying a bunch of bells and whistles to the game that don't affect gameplay. I think complete is having a deep and enjoyable gameplay experience that can cater to a competitive community.
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02/25/2011 03:04 PM (UTC)
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idiots...since when the VS series had any story?....never,people play capcom games for the gameplay,not for stupid reasons.


That is obvious - they don't buy a game for something it does not have. As for Mortal Kombat (2011), plot is a formidable factor.
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