But more and more every day people are turning up saying they like the plot changes, are they just retarded or not true fans?

I surely hope any of you are bigger or better fans then Bezou or Jade just because you prefer Sub Zero the way he was.

Again, a new tweet from the team about this thread:


Again, I must say that what I've posted here is EXACTLY what Binho posted in our Brazilian MK Community. If there was any kind of mistranslation, it's not my fault. I'm just spreading the news for all MK community, I'm not the source of them.

For me specifically, I don't really care about the comparison between old and new Sub-Zero (well, this kind anyway). I want a great story told no matter what happens. I want great delivery, construction, coherency, cohesiveness, and execution /presentation of this story. -- If that means individual characters remain as good as they were, or they get even better than how they were in the previous canon? Then I'll be the biggest cheerleader in the world for it. This is really the same principal behind folks who are adamant about having great gameplay.

Which brings me to something else. To see folks like Xiahoudun84, RazorsEdge701, Sub-Zero7th, WarLady, myself, and a shit-ton of others disgruntled about the story, questioning & criticizing every little piece of it, or straight up leaving the site because of frustration with the way the story is being handled is not something to scoff at. Why?

Because again, it's the same sort of principal behind why folks like Check plays these games to the point of scrutiny, finds all these flaws, and puts them on display for the world to see. The thing about writing the story though, is that as a fan who finds flaws, you really can't put much more than a bunch of text, or maybe fan-made podcasts together and send it to them. Writing is extremely fickle once you get into the artistic side of it.

Once more people stop merely taking flimsy story-telling from game creators, they will finally...if they haven't already... they will finally HIRE A TEAM OF PROFESSIONAL WRITERS. Part of their job will be to read everything from actual in game content (canon & non-canon), to big ass fan threads that remain successful. Like Xiahoudun84's was before he blew the damn thing up (link in my sig).

Once these hired person(s) are able to understand what the hell everyone is thinking, more complete, and coherent choices can be made. Such is also true when it comes to taking storyline and subplot liberties with any and all of these characters. The story will be more compelling, each characters flavor will be more tasteful, background information will be more and potent, and future paths that these characters take will be more purposeful and less senseless.

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To close, I want to put two personalities who visit this site into further perspective for any who read this, Xiahoudun84 & others via (story element) run equal and parallel to Check & others via (gameplay element)

If we loose a "Xiahoudun84" type personality on the story element and you're one of the folks who thinks that's funny or inconsequential.... Imagine what would happen to the gameplay element if you lost a personality such as Check.

Want more Mortal Kombat Armageddon? A game that pissed off a huge chuck of at least this sites' userbase? Then let's go ahead and....
Check AND Xiahoudun84

See what I mean? lol

So, with this game it looks good so far for the gameplay portion of things. However, we storyline guys can't tell quite yet what's up with the quality of the story (we understand to whatever extent, what good writing looks/reads like). And, according to one of our biggest story line guys that is still around, Razor. He's saying there's some funky shit going on in there. I'm inclined to believe what he's saying up until he starts giving opinion, or yes, being a f-ing jerk to people.

So wait, are you really falling back on Razor's "you dirty philistines don't know what good story is" argument? Do you know what a vain and arrogant statement that is on a forum full of people who've wasted hours building wikis, webcomics, and fanfiction devoted to this game? How about me? or Bezou? Are we qualified enough to comment on the quality of MKs writing? Do you need to flash your MK street cred before posting around here or do you have just have to be a huge douche to have a valid opinion?

Alright.

Let's pretend to forget that one torturous thread when I had to almost mathematically prove to you that nothing good whatsoever can possibly come of Cyber-Sub's story.

And guess what?



But fine,let's try this your way for a change.

Pick a character,any character.

See this thing that Razor did? The one where he compared a character's story from the old canon and the new canon and did step-by-step comparisons to prove his point?

I think it's only fair you should be asked to do the same to prove your point.

Since you seem so confident that you know what good story is,it should be simple enough.

Looking forward to it,sport.

You're welcome to join in on the fun too,Bezou. You know,when you are not busy being a troll with nothing constructive to say.

I'm pretty sure John Tobias did not create Reptile or Rain.

thanks

First, you're going to want to stop trying so hard to be insulted by someone else with a very strong opinion about the story element. I'm talking about myself, btw. But I assume you're focused enough on being insulted by everything Razor, that all you're trying to do now is associate and categorize everything that looks like it my agree with the negative aspects of Razors internet character (which are apparent from time to time).

This is why I enjoy being indifferent alot of times. Because people are going to try to categorize me no matter what I do... So. This is what you need to read from me before something ridiculous is said:

I do not agree with when Razor is truly being a jerk. He knows this, and it is because we consistently do not agree. In fact, we'll argue most of the time... and at least question the crap out of eachother til it becomes obvious that we should stop. Now, I've agreed with him lately because... i feel he's right about some things, especially when it comes to story element stuff.

In addition, nor he or I have one dimensional personalities. Therefor, I don't have a problem disagreeing with him consistently on his attitude, the things he'll say sometimes, and or his general behavior. Then turn around in the same breathe, and respect his talent or dare I say, "expertise", of breaking down and itemizing thoughtful post about the story element. A few people on this site are multi-dimensional personalities (Bezou, for example, is one), which allows me to distinguish between the times when someone is really wrong, or actually correct about something....

This is one of those instances where I feel Razor is actually correct about something. What is that something?

More Complex does NOT automatically = Better. This is where I agree with Razor, and there's nothing else to take from it. Because look, in this instance exclusively... I don't care that the story mode might be prettier this time, I don't care about the fact that MK has a better story element than other fighting games by default. I don't even care about the fact that it has a great big theater mode in it....who cares?

If the information I receive from it is not good (based on many factors such as renowned character identification), then I'm gonna call it crap. If Razor can see great big flaws from reading the leaks, given how precise he is when it comes to transferring or exchanging information about MK's story element, then I am inclined to agree with him on that.

The only important factor to me...is whether the Story element is good or not. Razor is very good when it comes to handling the story element.

- So then finally, I'm not "falling back" on anyone's argument. I am asserting my own stand-point by agreeing with someone who made perfect sense at the time.

More Complex does NOT automatically = Better.

Do you agree or disagree with that?

Personally IMHO

This may sound weird cause I love Sub as a playable fighter, but maybe its a god damn good thing to end his story after 20 years. He gets auto-mated, he's a drone minion of the clan forever. Donezo with that arc. Some good things come to an end, and after years of crazy looks (mask off, pony-tail, shredder, scars, and all the other nonsense) it might be time we put an end to the shit storm that was Sub-Zero.

I mean come on, your older brother dies so you completely abandon your identity to become a more morally sound version of him?

We are about to see the same story play out all over again with some differences (I haven't spoiled the story mode for myself, just the roster). I don't know about you guys but playing through it 2x is enough for me. Moving forward I don't want to relive a fallen elder god, a lame tag team, a dragon king, and armageddon again as well.

Reading the leaked story mode script it actually looks good.

I actually like that:


I think the main gripe people have with the storyline is and only is:

HAHAHAAHAH !!

I was the guy how ask about this!!!!!

"All those Bios and Endings are REAL, and Hector said that "it was an act of 'bad character' from those who made these leaks".

I also was the first guy to play the demo in the event, i play as Noob, a think i can post some pics if you guys want it

I withold my opinion about the story until I see it in the game as it was intended to be seen.

So far I am OK witho most of the changes, including infamous Cuber-Zero. Overall this story feels as a prologue for the MK4 remake.