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03/11/2011 04:26 PM (UTC)
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More or less like RE Remake for GameCube/Wii : they tried to stuck with somethings done in classic RE1 old PS 1 version, however, they put new and different elements things like Lisa Trevor plot, Crimson heads, some tweeks in story, changing lots of traditional dialogues, etc ... Initially, being a RE fan, I disliked it, but, later buying the game , exploring, trying to understand, I think Capcom did a good job changing some stuff and making things more modern and different .....

See this new MK story as a movie remake of old ideias : you have the main actors, the support cast , and some others that will have more participation in future sequels ....

The franchise renewing is just starting, is just the beggining of the new MK franchise, and people are already complaining and moaning ..... lol !
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queve
03/11/2011 04:26 PM (UTC)
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How did this awesome thread with new information (and pictures) concerning a brilliant (almost secret to us) event in Brazil turn into yet another "SPOILERS thread"?

Ugh.

Anyway, I'm looking forward for updates here.

Hopefully we'll see something new soon.
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Remonster
03/11/2011 04:30 PM (UTC)
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This thread got kinda crazy
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Spider804
03/11/2011 04:32 PM (UTC)
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Remonster Wrote:
This thread got kinda crazy

Yeah, it's sad. sad
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PaletteSwapped
03/11/2011 04:39 PM (UTC)
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East coast MK, baby!
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Spider804
03/11/2011 04:41 PM (UTC)
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Anyway, I really hope we see Kabal soon, about the only thing we don't know for sure about him is his appearance. smile
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PaletteSwapped
03/11/2011 04:43 PM (UTC)
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You sir are a smart man.
I'm very curious as to what they do with Kabal. I'm wondering if they try to stay more true to UMK3 look or if they opt to go for his original design like they did in deception with the trench coat. Personally, I'd like to see it somewhere in between.
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03/11/2011 04:46 PM (UTC)
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PaletteSwapped Wrote:
You sir are a smart man.
I'm very curious as to what they do with Kabal. I'm wondering if they try to stay more true to UMK3 look or if they opt to go for his original design like they did in deception with the trench coat. Personally, I'd like to see it somewhere in between.

Am I now? tongue
Yeah,I 'd like the inbetween look, too.
Maybe he's the GTTV reveal next week, fingers crossed. glasses
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PaletteSwapped
03/11/2011 04:48 PM (UTC)
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Fingers/toes crossed.
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Spider804
03/11/2011 04:52 PM (UTC)
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*Tries to cross toes but can't* furious
Bring on the Hookswords!! wink
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yautjared
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03/11/2011 04:54 PM (UTC)
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yep, word ....

None spoiler until now, so far, about Kabal and Smoke , about how they will look in this game .... maybe classic appearance ?

I even asked Ed Boon in Twitter, if exist chance to us to see a video of them before 19th April ..... hehe, I know we will see something anyway, but, it's killing me all this "reveal delay" until there !

Nice to know Skarlet A.K.A "Lady in Red" will be showed .... somehow, since very few credit is being given to her, because she is not an original MK1,2,3 character, I will support her, if , in fact, she is playable .....

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03/11/2011 04:59 PM (UTC)
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I am very curious about the 360 special kontent. I hope its only a timed exclusive though cause if it is solely MK than PS3 deserves it too.

I really don't care about Kratos so that exclusive does not bother me. Im sure one of my buddies with a PS3 will get the game and I cant try him then. After a few rounds I'll likely never care to use him again.


Also, this Red Lady still has me intrigued as Ed hinted at it when he was teasing a character reveal. I think that might be our big secret.
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03/11/2011 05:00 PM (UTC)
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here i got an awesome video of 2 min. liu kang vs ermac. i haven't seen it before so i hope its also new for you guy's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBZwJ0mkjvk
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03/11/2011 05:12 PM (UTC)
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yautjared Wrote:
More or less like RE Remake for GameCube/Wii : they tried to stuck with somethings done in classic RE1 old PS 1 version, however, they put new and different elements things like Lisa Trevor plot, Crimson heads, some tweeks in story, changing lots of traditional dialogues, etc ... Initially, being a RE fan, I disliked it, but, later buying the game , exploring, trying to understand, I think Capcom did a good job changing some stuff and making things more modern and different .....

See this new MK story as a movie remake of old ideias : you have the main actors, the support cast , and some others that will have more participation in future sequels ....

The franchise renewing is just starting, is just the beggining of the new MK franchise, and people are already complaining and moaning ..... lol !


Resident Evil Remake and Mortal Kombat (2011) are totaly different things in terms of remakes.

In Resident Evil Remake, all Capcom did was improve the graphics, KEPT the original storyline, including the characteristics of all the main cast members (Jill, Chris, Rebecca, Wesker, and Barry). They expanded the storyline cut from the original game, while they didn't touch the overall gist of what happened in the original Resident Evil game on Playstation 1.

In MK(2011) Vogel re wrote origins of characters AND the history of MK, thus changing fundamentals of what and who characters are.

John Tobias created by himself(yes only himself) the storyline and characters of MK1- MK4 .This isn't a case of simple time travel. This game is the MK team (Vogel and his crew) rewriting the entire* MK history.

A reboot wasn't neccassy to keep old characters interesting, nor killing characters in the past, to give 2nd rate characters a storyline.

What Mortal Kombat needed was a re launch of the series in a new direction. They did it with the gameplay, but lost it when it came to the storyline, again.
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queve
03/11/2011 07:39 PM (UTC)
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Thank you Poto for giving us all this awesome information from the Brasilian Community!

We owe you a big one. You guys got exclusive Sonya reveals twice already. Back in 2011 on hat Brazilian event where Hector revealed her and yesterday.

It is much appreciated it. smile
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03/11/2011 07:58 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
Thank you Poto for giving us all this awesome information from the Brasilian Community!

We owe you a big one. You guys got exclusive Sonya reveals twice already. Back in 2011 on hat Brazilian event where Hector revealed her and yesterday.

It is much appreciated it. smile

Your very welcome, queve! grin

Also, I really believe Hector will show us never-before-seen stuff tomorrow or on Sunday, just like he did on Brazil Game Show earlier this year. Hector will host a closed-doors presentation of the game in the main auditorium of the show (just like BGS) in an event called "Gameworld 2011", and he'll explain eveything about the game, play with fans AND make a Q&A session. Hopefully, he'll show something new at the end of the presentation!!!

I'M FREAKING EXCITED!
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03/11/2011 08:12 PM (UTC)
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Ok, here's the thing.

RazorsEdge701 thinks that he's the only one on this site who knows anything about writing because he apparently reads books on occasion and studied literature.

And he will not accept the opinions of anyone he deems unworthy because he views them as inferior to his own, no matter how groundless his own are.

And he has essentially said over and over that he views the opinions of EVERYONE HERE as unworthy.

So...yeah, no real point arguing with him. It's like trying to change someone's religion. He has no interest in the thoughts of anyone who isn't explicitly telling him how right he is.
And he's not gonna change, because he has set up in his mind an internal system of morality where he is the one true voice of reason and all the plebeian fools constantly persecute him with their differing and therefore wrong assertions.
He is the victim in his own head, even though he systematically goes out of his way to make everyone else feel like idiots.

I used to think I was an arrogant jerk.

Then I met RazorsEdge701.


*slow handclap*.

At least you aren't some self-proclaimed "intellectual" who thinks Prague is in Russia! tongue

KiShiDo- you are right. The stories of MK1-3 were SHIT until they decided to rewrite them all after the fact. Razor can't accept that because he is INCAPABLE OF ADMITTING HE IS WRONG. You might as well try to convince Glenn Beck that Obama isn't the Antichrist.
RazorsEdge701 Wrote: And to J-R, I think this illustrates nicely for you WHY XiahouDun left and acts like a jerk on the rare occasions he pops back up, and WHY I'm headed down the same road.

For God's Sake, don't tease us like that! I almost wet my pants a little... Please, don't let any of us stop you from becoming the bitter failure of a troll you are destined to become, like your idol. tongue
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03/11/2011 08:25 PM (UTC)
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I don't like Trolls.
I really don't, especially since one resorted to insulting my dad's diabetes on a different website about 2 years ago.
I hate Trolls. furious
Except Ed Boon, he's the good kind of Troll. grin
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GodlyShinnok
03/11/2011 08:31 PM (UTC)
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I hope they don't add that fucking Cyber Sub shit in the next game.
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03/11/2011 08:32 PM (UTC)
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GodlyShinnok Wrote:
I hope they don't add that fucking Cyber Sub shit in the next game.

Hey, if even NRS is uncertain of CSZ's future, then there's hope. smile
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03/11/2011 08:34 PM (UTC)
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Yeah they simply will return him into human and say in 2 hours after the fight he returned human.

Awesome story telling because some are whining that things have changed even if you had seen shit. LOL

Seriously we knew things would change and that one wasn't even unlikely but who cares.

He is still Sub Zero and has freezing powers and his mind.
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03/11/2011 08:53 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
because it left us all surprised and some even in shock. That effect right there means the plot was good and well-written.


It absolutely does not. That would mean horror movies are examples of great storytelling.

It's like nobody here but me's ever read an actual book.


There it is... Right there. You try and undermine everyone else's opinion and wants to make everyone think that your opinion is the only one that is right. I used to respect you, Razor, because of your great knowledge of Mortal Kombat and your interest in it's lore, but now you seem to slowly turn into what Xiahoudun is... It really saddens me to see that.

I get it, you don't like the plot in this new MK, and that is totally fine... but don't become an asshole because of it.


i dont think he's being an asshole, and if you're seeing him that way, you're just overly sensitive. you come off, from all your post i read, as a bitch.

i haven't read all of the script, but shoddy writing doesn't warrant something great JUST because we didn't have it in the past. haven't you ever heard the term "if you're going to do something, do it right"? at least do a job respectably. doing shit out of left field to get shock only amuses small minded people.

watch breaking bad. that show does a brilliant job of shocking you... in a cohernent and intelligent way, without breaking character.
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03/11/2011 09:20 PM (UTC)
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good job and Welcome
superbn0va Wrote:
here i got an awesome video of 2 min. liu kang vs ermac. i haven't seen it before so i hope its also new for you guy's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBZwJ0mkjvk
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03/11/2011 09:23 PM (UTC)
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Spider804 Wrote:
GodlyShinnok Wrote:
I hope they don't add that fucking Cyber Sub shit in the next game.

Hey, if even NRS is uncertain of CSZ's future, then there's hope. smile


Hopefully, they don't fuck things next time.
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03/11/2011 09:39 PM (UTC)
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I don't think he's being an asshole, and if you're seeing him that way, you're just overly sensitive. you come off, from all your post i read, as a bitch.

i haven't read all of the script, but shoddy writing doesn't warrant something great JUST because we didn't have it in the past. haven't you ever heard the term "if you're going to do something, do it right"? at least do a job respectably. doing shit out of left field to get shock only amuses small minded people.

watch breaking bad. that show does a brilliant job of shocking you... in a coherent and intelligent way, without breaking character.


Agreed.

I also agree with RazorsEdge701 on the points he made about comparing the old canon to the new canon. Just because there's more "stuff" there to sift through , doesn't make it better than the pre-existing, simplified alternative. More complex doesn't mean higher quality.

Are we to assume that a mountain-sized mound of shit with all the different shitty colors is somehow better than one handful of gold? I think not. Not that I'm comparing the old canon to gold, or the new canon with shit and shitty colors but, that's essentially the point here.

- I haven't read through all the spoilers, and I will not. I peeked at some of the bios and that's it. That's all I could stomach without depreciating my pre-order purchase in my own mind.

But I will say this... a shitty gimmick can come in the form of new technology, beautiful graphics, a LOT more writing, alot of screen-play//cut-scenes, and character interactions (characters talking to eachother). IF the new canon turns out to be shit, then I'm going to call it shit, bro. 100hrs and 1000 chapters will not disguise the stink of shit.

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Have you considered the possibility that rebooting this thing requires them to drop a lot of depth off of most of these characters, and then bolster up characters like the five you mentioned? Consequently creating an even playing field for them all? All of them have a chance to be famous, to have depth, and to start from a solid starting point, going forward in all different kinds of directions individually.

I think, according to what you're saying happened, and without reading spoilers... I think they may have done it right. Big maybe until we see more but, yea.

It seems like that's what you'd want to do when you reboot a story. You give the less fortunate characters from the previous canon a strong chance at being liked, and therefor, utilized going forward. Then, you take and strip down the characters that have a lot of depth in the old canon. To a point where the huge fan-following that those characters have enjoyed thus far has to seriously look at other options now, because those options have now become more enticing.

You'd want to start at the bottom, the bare bones of the characters that are well established, and you'd want to create those bare-bones for the characters that didn't previously have it.
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