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posted11/09/2006 10:03 PM (UTC)by
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Especially queve & Keith.tongue

Ed-Boon Wrote:
There have been a number of moves that have been "removed" from the game. Sonya's leg grab was one of them. I'm sure you will see it again in the future.

Although not saying it directly, he did imply that Sonya will survive to see Mortal Kombat 8. Or else, he wouldn't have said what he did say. He could have said "I don't know why it's removed, wish we could still have it" just like he did about Cage's split punch. But instead, he's "sure" that we will see Sonya's leg grab in the future. In other words, he's "sure" that we will see Sonya in the future. And in other words, he's "sure" that Sonya will survive the Armageddon.grin


Don't get your hopes too high up though, he might not have meant it.
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11/07/2006 03:42 PM (UTC)
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Bad_Boy Wrote:
Especially queve.tongue

Ed-Boon Wrote:
There have been a number of moves that have been "removed" from the game. Sonya's leg grab was one of them. I'm sure you will see it again in the future.

Although not saying it directly, he did imply that Sonya will survive to see Mortal Kombat 8. Or else, he wouldn't have said what he did say. He could have said "I don't know why it's removed, wish we could still have it" just like he did about Cage's split punch. But instead, he's "sure" that we will see Sonya's leg grab in the future. In other words, he's "sure" that we will see Sonya in the future. And in other words, he's "sure" that Sonya will survive the Armageddon.grin


Don't get your hopes too high up though, he might not have meant it.


It could also mean that we could see Sonya's leg grab BUT new character will have it. So does not mean Sonya is in next Mortal Kombat.
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11/07/2006 03:46 PM (UTC)
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I'll get a lot of vegetables thrown at me for this, but I find her character very boring and bland now. They'll have to do a lot to her character for me to want her to return.

I do hope to see the leg grab return.....give it to Kira tongue
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11/07/2006 03:57 PM (UTC)
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It did sound like Sonya could be returning. Kira should have her own moves if she returns, which I hope she does. And her and Sonya have a little rivalry going on.
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11/07/2006 04:03 PM (UTC)
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I just hope someone else doesn't get the leg grab. We'd never hear the end of it.
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11/07/2006 04:08 PM (UTC)
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devilwithin Wrote:
It could also mean that we could see Sonya's leg grab BUT new character will have it. So does not mean Sonya is in next Mortal Kombat.

Hmm... Why didn't I think of it like that?
I don't think anyone else deserves the leg grab... It's Sonya's move! Let's just hope she get's to keep it if she makes a return.(Which I hope she will)
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11/07/2006 05:07 PM (UTC)
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Maybe Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade will marry and have a daughter named Shannon Cage and she will get the leg grab and nut punch move.grin
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11/07/2006 05:58 PM (UTC)
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It does kinda sound optimistic for us who like Sonya though. I could see them using certain moves on other characters too, so I'm not blind to the fact.
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11/07/2006 06:12 PM (UTC)
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IVLIVS Wrote:
I'll get a lot of vegetables thrown at me for this, but I find her character very boring and bland now. They'll have to do a lot to her character for me to want her to return.

I do hope to see the leg grab return.....give it to Kira tongue


You and me both, man. On all accounts.
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11/07/2006 06:50 PM (UTC)
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Ehh, I was never a really big fan of Sonya, especially after MK3 when she was toned down. Her specials were taken away from her (where the hell is her classic ring toss and leg grab?) and her design was poor, especially her alternate costume in MK:A. Just my two cents. I could care less if she moved on.
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11/07/2006 08:23 PM (UTC)
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Bad_Boy Wrote:
Especially queve.tongue

Ed-Boon Wrote:
There have been a number of moves that have been "removed" from the game. Sonya's leg grab was one of them. I'm sure you will see it again in the future.

Although not saying it directly, he did imply that Sonya will survive to see Mortal Kombat 8. Or else, he wouldn't have said what he did say. He could have said "I don't know why it's removed, wish we could still have it" just like he did about Cage's split punch. But instead, he's "sure" that we will see Sonya's leg grab in the future. In other words, he's "sure" that we will see Sonya in the future. And in other words, he's "sure" that Sonya will survive the Armageddon.grin


Don't get your hopes too high up though, he might not have meant it.


Yay!

I thank God they decided to ask that question, since its one of those things that was really really talked about. Too bad we didn’t make it clear most people were gravely upset and annoyed about it not being there, same with Cages nut punch and the other two. I hope the capital letters said something.

But yes, that was definitely positive news for Sonya fans, I just cant believe they were so...(insert word here)...to not have it in the game, specially if it WAS there along side another fan fave (the vertical bicycle kicks), its SO annoying.

Well, hopefully Sonya is back.

IVLIVS Wrote:
I'll get a lot of vegetables thrown at me for this, but I find her character very boring and bland now. They'll have to do a lot to her character for me to want her to return.

I do hope to see the leg grab return.....give it to Kira tongue


*queve throws many heavy and enormous putrefied vegetables to IVLIVS for his suggestion about giving it to Kira*

Kira already disserves to die a most horrible death for not being original, why make it worse? Theres so much potential in the red hair, I remember back then (when the first pic was revealed) when I started to think she was going to be one of my fave characters ever, red hair, evil, brave...but what then, we find out she was another Jarek, a cheap copy of an already existing character, but it was worst, for they made her a copy of 2 original legends. Bad move. And to give her a really powerful trademark move of the character she ripped off....no no.

Like Keith said, Kira needs her own moves. Drop the kiss, it doesn’t suit her, same with the cannonball and even the fire ball. Make her more original and she will rock! She has potential. Even her character in Kobras ending lacked originality (kiss of death again?), but I do admit I liked her ending, made her feel honorable.

Keith Wrote:
It did sound like Sonya could be returning. Kira should have her own moves if she returns, which I hope she does. And her and Sonya have a little rivalry going on.


Agreed.

EvanjiAxu Wrote:
I just hope someone else doesn't get the leg grab. We'd never hear the end of it.


You can be sure about that!

It would be a never ending nightmare for everyone.

BTW, congrats on that thread you made about “degradation of woman in MK”, I will post there later, I read all replies and I must tell you I love how you express your thoughts. Excellent! You rock.

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devilwithin Wrote:
It could also mean that we could see Sonya's leg grab BUT new character will have it. So does not mean Sonya is in next Mortal Kombat.

Hmm... Why didn't I think of it like that?
I don't think anyone else deserves the leg grab... It's Sonya's move! Let's just hope she get's to keep it if she makes a return.(Which I hope she will)


Exactly.

That move is sacred to Sonya, lol.

Aquarius_D Wrote:
Maybe Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade will marry and have a daughter named Shannon Cage and she will get the leg grab and nut punch move.grin


They both should get married, I have been saying it forever, the idea of a daughter is cool, but that name would never work, lol.

ThePredator151 Wrote:
It does kinda sound optimistic for us who like Sonya though. I could see them using certain moves on other characters too, so I'm not blind to the fact.


Yeah, sadly, one can already expect the worst from the Mk team (specially after MKA).
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11/07/2006 08:50 PM (UTC)
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IVLIVS Wrote:
I'll get a lot of vegetables thrown at me for this, but I find her character very boring and bland now. They'll have to do a lot to her character for me to want her to return.

I do hope to see the leg grab return.....give it to Kira tongue


good idea . so she could be even more unoriginal? than she already is
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11/07/2006 09:01 PM (UTC)
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Boon has said before that Sonya is definitely a character we will see more of in the future.
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11/07/2006 09:21 PM (UTC)
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And there i was thinking it was good riddance for Sonya, after that evil bugger Cage pushes her off winkgrin
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11/07/2006 09:29 PM (UTC)
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Im not even a Sonya fan,but I still think taht is great.
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11/07/2006 09:36 PM (UTC)
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Dude I hate Kira she is one of those sorry copy characters her and Jarek suck because they copied Kanos moves but Kira since shes a girl got some of Sonyas specials too I do hope Sonya makes it along with Cage Because Cage is my faviorite plus it would be funny to see him do his nut punch again.grin
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11/07/2006 10:10 PM (UTC)
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"Grrr" at Johnny for pushing Sonya down the pyramid... I mean seriously, WHY?!


themasterab Wrote:
Dude I hate Kira she is one of those sorry copy characters her and Jarek suck because they copied Kanos moves but Kira since shes a girl got some of Sonyas specials too

They wanted to have Kano's and Sonya's(two rivals) moves put into Kira, since neither of them were going to be in Deception. I guess she had the moves for MK:A too... But regardless of that, she's a great fighter, and a great Black Dragon.
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11/08/2006 12:38 AM (UTC)
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I don't know why a lot of people hate Sonya

I love her looks ESPECIALLY in MKA... and I don't get why people don't like her alternate... it's very elegant, sexy and original

she should return and have the leg grab (only if done more realistically though) and DON'T give it to Kira smile


I think for her plot they should make Sonya find out that kira was actually the responsible for the death of her partner or someone
and involve Frost in her story to spice it up

just my 2 cents


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this is really good. Now both my favorite characters will survive (Hopefully).

This sounds like it could mean just that: She will be seen again in future MK games. Mortal Kombat just isn't Mortal Kombat without sonya. She helped make MK. She was one of the things that made MK1 so great, and obviously a large factor as to why the series has lasted so long.

As for Kira, fuck that goddamn unoriginal ho bag. If she didn't completely rip off sonya, she would have been fine. It would have been good to have a redhead in the MK cast, but it's not good that they have a wannabe redheaded bitch in there. It's bad enough they have chamelion and shujinko using other people's moves.
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11/08/2006 04:15 AM (UTC)
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Bad_Boy Wrote:
devilwithin Wrote:
It could also mean that we could see Sonya's leg grab BUT new character will have it. So does not mean Sonya is in next Mortal Kombat.

Hmm... Why didn't I think of it like that?
I don't think anyone else deserves the leg grab... It's Sonya's move! Let's just hope she get's to keep it if she makes a return.(Which I hope she will)


what about Reiko/Noob with the throwing stars?
what about Smoke/Scorpion and the harpoon?
How about half the characters on Armageddon have teleport moves which Raiden had first? not all characters own moves, seeing how so many characters throughout hte years have the same or similar moves from other characters

ps, i hate sonya, frost ruls Nah!grin
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11/08/2006 04:26 PM (UTC)
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Queve thank you for asking the question, its really been bothering me for so Long, although I didn’t like his reply, he seemed a bit clueless about why they removed it and he changed the subject towards her bicycle kick.

I also wish he received the message of how urgent and dire the circumstances for her missing leg grab are and the lack of any original moves making her les appealing. Well the least I can take from it is some sort of assurance that this is not the last we see of her.
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11/08/2006 10:49 PM (UTC)
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this is really good. Now both my favorite characters will survive (Hopefully).

This sounds like it could mean just that: She will be seen again in future MK games. Mortal Kombat just isn't Mortal Kombat without sonya. She helped make MK. She was one of the things that made MK1 so great, and obviously a large factor as to why the series has lasted so long.

As for Kira, fuck that goddamn unoriginal ho bag. If she didn't completely rip off sonya, she would have been fine. It would have been good to have a redhead in the MK cast, but it's not good that they have a wannabe redheaded bitch in there. It's bad enough they have chamelion and shujinko using other people's moves.


Great points concerning Sonya, mabdog! I 100% agree with everything you said about her, and without being too biased, it's all very true! When you think MK, you think of characters like Sub-Zero, Scorpion (naturally), Liu Kang (unfortunately), and definately Sonya - they "made" MK, like you said.

LoL, you let Kira have it there. My thoughts on her:

If she had her own moves, she would have been a great character. She has a good design (her ALT is fantastic), a good enough background and story to "start off" as an MK character - all she was really missing was moves.

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Changing a subject slightly around a little, bit:

Moves like the Leg Grab, the Vertical Bycicle Kick, and the Energy Rings (The Leg Grab on top of them all) are "owned" by Sonya, and no other character should have them. Having Sonya and Cage have a daughter that "takes over" her image in MK sounds like it could probably work, but the MK Team would have to pay attention and do a lot of things in order to please Sonya fans.

I'm ecstatic about Boon's hint at Sonya's return after Armageddon!!! I was just looking around trying to find some info on how the event went (I unfortunately missed it sad) and this thread caught my eye, with great news to back it up!

I do agree, however, that they are gonna have to do some work on Sonya. Yes, giving her trademark moves back is a perfect start, but her storyline is 50% of what makes her. As mentioned above, they definately should include Frost in it - her rivalry with Sonya has a lot of potential, and Frost is a pretty tough #$@! too - it would be a very interesting new addition to both their storylines. Kira could be incorporated in there, too, but I'd like to emphasys of the Dragon clans to be toned down a bit for next-gen, especially its impact on Sonya. She needs to focus on newer things, IMO. Perhaps have Sonya know Kira from a long time ago, and something (I have ideas but I'll leave it open) happened that steered them in opposite directions, and could serve as a catalyst for a rivalry to blow up.

Like I've said 923 times before, Sonya has too much potential, and if explored correctly, her interest factor could double, or even triple!

Again, great news Bad_Boy, and I'm very happy with the news!!!
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11/09/2006 12:01 AM (UTC)
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one thing i've learned from the release of deception and armageddon is that you shouldn't take what boon has to say about the production of a game to heart until the end of development.
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11/09/2006 12:08 AM (UTC)
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I took what Boon said there with a pinch of salt. They could easily give the Leg Grab to someone else. It by no means is an indicator that Sonya will be back. Here's hoping she will be.
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11/09/2006 10:03 PM (UTC)
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Even though that may be true, Most of the fans here will agree that the "Leg Grab" Move belongs to Sonya. That was one of her best moves!!! I mean each character (except for those cheap, lame imitations) has specific moves that we know them for. I mean I bet everyone would have had a fit and a half if Scorpion's Spear move was given to another character. I hope that if they bring back the "Leg Grab" that Sonya will be the one to use it.

P.S. I also would like to see a Sonya/JC hook-up....I mean c'mon already ...get on with it.smile
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