Garladors KOTW - Week 11 - Johnny Cage Discussion
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Excelsior, erstwhile dollops of this dark domain of digital deviancy! I, Garlador, conjurer of ramblings and rantings, have arrived to drag yet another worthy kombatant up to the center stage for us all to heckle, praise, ridicule, and peer into the very fabric of their digitized soul.

We've covered Sheeva, Nightwolf, Mileena, Smoke, Shang Tsung, Stryker, Reptile, Sonya's boobs, Sonya Blade and Sektor.

Up this week?

Prepare yourself, the Mortal Kombat's on today.
Prepare yourself, Mortal Kombat all the way.
Prepare yourself, Mortal Kombat's here to stay.
Ooh, Johnny Cage is not afraid to die!


WHO IS JOHNNY CAGE?
Johnny Cage, or "Mister John Carlton", is the typical Hollywood showboating loveable douchebag who says and gets away with the things us mere non-celebrity mortals never could.

(Sonya has castrated men for less, but Johnny Cage just has that superstar edge lesser men will always lack)

Johnny Cage can somewhat be called the comic relief of the series, seeing as how his attitude and opinion of others and the circumstances around him are less grounded in reality than the monsters and demons he fights.

(This is not a screenshot from the cartoon; this is literally how Johnny Cage sees the world through his looney-tune filtered brain)

He's known for many unique character quirks, probably first and foremost his insanely disproportionate ego.

(not even all of cyberspace can contain it)

He's so self-centered, he even screams out his own name when he attacks, much like a Pokemon does.

(Wild Johnny Cage appeared! Johnny Cage used "charm". SONYA BLADE swoons. It's SUPER EFFECTIVE! )

He's also rarely seen without his trademark sunglasses, which he wears at all manner of inappropriate times.

(isn't the first rule of fighting someone NOT to wear breakable glass in front of your eyeballs?)

But Johnny Cage defies what other people say is reasonable, rational, and appropriate. Why? Because sunglasses are cool, even if he can't see a thing through them.

(He wears he's sunglasses at night...)

I guess he's so cool he can get away with it, though I think we all know the real reason he keeps them on all the time.

(Maybe he's much smarter than we've ever given him credit for)

Oh, and he's also go his trademark Shadow Kick and his infamous green fireballs.

(This one decision is why Cage got stuck as Liu Kang's sidekick, just like Luigi is damned to be Mario's disrespected partner. Curse you, green fireballs!)

Beyond his goofy and carefree exterior, however, Cage is a legitimately good guy who aims to do the right thing, is willing to leap into the lion's den to save and protect his friends, and does have the skills, talent, power, and ability to back-up his egotistical boasts. Cage IS good, he KNOWS it, and after punching you in the crotch a few times, you'll know it too.

WHY IS JOHNNY CAGE IN THE SERIES?
Actually, the better question to ask is "where would the MK series be without Johnny Cage?" because, without Johnny Cage, there would BE no Mortal Kombat!

(And politicians everywhere would be forced to pick on something ELSE to blame for corrupting our youth... like pizza, or soft beds, or happiness)

Seriously. For those that don't know their MK history, Mortal Kombat as an entire franchise only exists because of some genuinely crazy and contrived reasons. See, the MK team at the time decided to make a game based on the then-famous-and-popular martial arts movie star, Jean Claude Van Damme, where he would fight a series of digitized warriors.

(Instead of Scorpion, this could've been the face of the franchise)

The project fell through, some say because Van Damme's salary demands were too high.

(But we all know it was because he was a Street Fighter fan instead. Go home and be a family man!)

So, rather than just throw out the concept, they decided to run with it in a different direction, with Johnny Cage being born from the spirit of Van Damme's egocentricity, star-power, and penchant for doing the splits while punching people in the balls.

(He's either punching him in the balls or performing an oddly public prostate examination)

Thus Cage probably was the first MK character to technically exist, and from this "take a real life actor/movie character and turn them into a new video game character", we pretty much got the rest of our MK1 cast of assorted movie stereotypes. But it all began with Cage.

His later role in the games was as a sort of comic foil to Liu Kang's super-serious story and personality. He was the light-hearted jokester that couldn't take four-armed dragon-people fighting robots in hell seriously.

Ultimately, he was a combination of both the best and worst that humanity has to offer.


JOHNNY CAGE'S STORY-
Johnny Cage started off as an actor in a bit of a slump. See, despite being a supremely talented fighter and actor, tabloids and media continued to question his martial arts skills and called his movie fights unbelievable and unrealistic.

(And this was BEFORE the Matrix era! *psst...* I don't think he really knows Kung-Fu...)

Apparently, Johnny Cage used many of his trademark abilities in his films, which critics passed off as cheap and fake-looking special effects, unaware that, nope, this guy was literally shooting green fireballs at poor, unfortunate stuntmen..


Faced with growing public disappointment, slipping movie sales, and irate movie studios banking on younger, fresher, more bankable stars, and Johnny found himself unable to compete against a string of lesser movies and actors.

(I don't care if "Ninja Mime" isn't a real movie. It HAS to be better than this....)

So he catches wind of the Mortal Kombat tournament and, without doing much homework to realize he just signed up for a death tournament full of monsters, demons, gods, and wizards where the fate of all reality hung in the balance, he was on the boat to Shang Tsung's island, fired up and eager to take out anyone that stood in his way.

(If you haven't seen this scene, slap yourself, go buy the game, play the story mode, and then come back and tell me how it feels to see a REAL man in action)

It took awhile for Cage to realize that things were a tad... different... than what he expected.

(right around the time a teleporting old geezer was telling him to murder a lizard man and sharp-toothed Wolverine-clone in front of a guy with white skin, ninjas with flamethrowers and rockets, and several guys with glowing white pupil-less eyes... yeah, one of those might have tipped him off)

Cage, however, was too busy focused on a certain blonde to let something as silly as "fighting invisible lizards and floating soul monsters to the death" bother him. Unfortunately, Sonya was too busy focused on saving the lives of her teammates to put up with Johnny Cage's obnoxious flirting and pick-up lines.

(Johnny was shocked when his pick-up line "Wanna see my hard, shiny little Oscar?" failed to work on Sonya Blade...)

After beating her up, and then saving her life from Kano (so... that makes the first beating okay?), Cage basically joined up with the Earthrealm heroes to save their world from enslavement and destruction. Sadly, he got eliminated from the tournament by Cyrax.

(He should have refunded Cyrax's ticket for "Ninja Mime" when he asked)

But it was okay. Liu Kang managed to save the day with his mystical Asian kung-fu and Johnny and the others were free to applaud politely at the victory ceremony.


But, oh no! Shao Kahn didn't accept defeat and he decided to force them into a second tournament. To show them he meant business, he invaded Earthrealm and kidnapped Sonya!

("But then the invaders came back. They came back angry, and they tore our planet apart, bit by bit. But they made one mistake - they shouldn't have gone after our WOMEN!")

Cage then tagged alongside the other heroes into Outworld both to compete in the tournament and rescue Sonya, while also weeding out Jax as competition. He lost in the tournament (again), but Liu Kang managed to save the day with his mystical Asian kung-fu (again) and all was well.

Until MK3 came along and Kahn just flat-out invaded Earth anyway. Here's where Cage's story begins to differ from the prior games. Johnny Cage's original actor, Daniel Pesina, got into some trouble for advertising a competitor to Mortal Kombat and got dumped, and it was decided that Johnny Cage was going to be unceremoniously killed off.

See, in the original MK3, Cage was killed by Kahn's executioner squads, starting a trend that saw Cage being repeatedly killed and resurrected in MK3, MK4, MK:DA, and MK:A, turning him from a plucky warrior into nothing more than Kenny from South Park.

(Oh my god! They killed Cagey! You bastards!)

But this time around, Raiden sensed Cage's impending death and torpedoed Motaro through a bridge in possibly the most hilariously anti-climatic scene in recent memory.

(When "Johnnyboughtacar!" is the last thing you hear before you die, you can't take death seriously anymore)

But... Cage being spared from his cycle of Kenny-death-rebirth tipped the balance of the universe and created a chain-reaction nobody could've seen coming.

Kahn tried again, this time with a super-charged Sindel, who infamously tore through the Earthrealm heroes like she was a DBZ villain and the entire cast of characters were Krillin.

(They weren't very effective)

Alas, nearly everyone died. NEARLY everyone. To the surprise of probably the entire world (and probably Raiden), Cage manged to survive with only a few minor bruises. But Kahn was coming...

So Cage had lost in this third tournament (yet again), but then Liu Kang arrived to save the day with his mystical Asian kung-fu (yet again) and stop Kahn once and for... er...

(And things had been going so well...)

Well, only difference was now Raiden used HIS mystical godly kung-fu to stop Kahn once and for all and hog all the credit instead.

But so long as Cage was beside him, Raiden could be at ease knowing that even if the victory went to his head, nobody could ever have a bigger ego than Johnny Cage...

JOHNNY CAGE'S FUTURE-
There are a few signs of the apocalypse. Rivers run red with blood, swarms of insects, eternal night... I think the fore-runner to all of those is "Johnny Cage lives and everyone else dies".

But, holy cow, Johnny Cage lived and nearly everyone else died! That... that almost makes no sense. That's not how it's supposed to go! WH-WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?!


Seriously, though, Cage endured the end of the game. I confess I'm genuinely surprised by their choice. I would've put good money down that they'd kill Cage off a hundred times before killing Sub-Zero off instead, but that's why I'm not a betting man.

(not anymore, at least...)

That said, I'm also PLEASANTLY surprised that Cage survived. I'll be the first to admit, I was actually not a big fan of Cage in MK1, or MK2, or MK3... or MK4... or MK:DA... okay, any game he's ever been in.

(I confess, I was NOT Cage's best fan)

Like Stryker and several others, however, this game really catapulted him into the realm of likeability. He was egotistical, yeah, goofy, yep, but he also showed a genuine warmth and charisma that made him someone both annoying yet undeniably endearing and someone you'd really want to have stick around to keep the grisly story from getting too dark and depressing.

Cage has become one of my favorites in this game, and even though his Story Mode chapter came first, it remains one of my favorites in the game, not so much for the fights, but simply because Cage's personality and charm carries the scenes through together with such clever, witty, and quotable dialogue that nearly every chapter that followed seemed like a step down if only because Cage wasn't there to offer his comments on every character or situation.

Beyond that, he has a very human element that grounds him to earth, with his rather amusing crush on Sonya, his Dudley Doo-Right need to save the day, and his catty remarks about the situation when things go wrong.

I look forward to more Cage in the next game, a Cage freed from the shadow of being a "support" character and one suddenly thrust into the spotlight as a leader to look up to, prepare for the inevitable invasion of Shinnok and the Netherrealm, and one with the knowledge and expertise to rise up to the challenge and punch the nuts off more demons and gods in the years to come. It's strangely the role that Armageddon built up for him that ultimately went nowhere, and it's refreshing to see ONE character start to make good on the potential those older games hinted at rather than scrapping it all and regressing him.

But where does Cage go from here? His ending in Arcade mode hints at greater power within him than he realizes. His relationship with Sonya was refreshingly explored in deeper detail. His friendship with the others was very believable and touching, and it'll be interesting how he copes with their deaths. Will Cage assume a leadership position in their absence? Who knows. I'm also interested about the confirmed background and story details they cut from Johnny Cage. Perhaps they'd mention his rarely acknowledged first marriage and divorce, for instance?

Cage is one of several characters that has improved greatly in this game, and I expect great things from him in the future. One way or the other though, like the entertainer he is by profession, he keeps me entertained whenever he's on screen or during any match with or against him.

So, sound off! How did you like Johnny Cage in this game? Do you find him an insufferable douchebag, or a commendable hero? Does his brand of humor work in the dark narrative of Mortal Kombat's mythos of death and violence? Were you tired of his constant deaths and resurrections? Do you take him seriously at all, or will he always be a goofy comic relief to you?

Johnny Cage certainly evokes strong opinions, so let's get them out in the open and discuss shall we? And let me know who should be covered next (and, yes, I AM listening... and being very careful about who I choose... )

Alright, everyone. Been fun as always. Garlador out.
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UNdiscovered
10/16/2011 04:22 AM (UTC)
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one of the main if not only reason i come into this forum
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Rockchalk5477
10/16/2011 04:39 AM (UTC)
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Wow!
Good read, yet again.

Johnny was one of the major highlights of story mode. Such a charming, smart-ass. I can't wait to see how he develops in MK10.

Looking forward to next week's discussion as well. smile
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redman
10/16/2011 06:46 AM (UTC)
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Johnny = GDLK

Your post = 2XGDLK

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Amazing post bro. Keep it up! Enjoyed the whole read.. I also knew that he was the 1st MK character. I watched that icons thing about MK. It was pretty good, I recommend looking it up.
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iHeartXenomorphs
10/16/2011 08:14 AM (UTC)
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Yo Dawg you should totally do Kabal next.


or Cyrax.
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Teimurazor
10/16/2011 12:50 PM (UTC)
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Thanks, for posting this, it was funny to read.
I really hope Johnny Cage would be further developed as a "serious" character in the next game
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Zmoke
10/16/2011 01:32 PM (UTC)
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Nice to read!
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KeenanBoots
10/16/2011 02:52 PM (UTC)
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Great stuff as always!
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Arthur Zonatto
10/16/2011 04:24 PM (UTC)
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Awesome read...again.

You know, Johnny Cage is my 3rd favorite, and I love the fact that he is a survivor this time around, about time he was given that fate, and faith from NRS.

Good choice, Boon.

Now I have to me that Johnny is gonna be more serious, and his appearance needs to reflect that.
Like, wearing a black armband as a sign of grief ( or respect) to his fallen friends' losing,
or even give him a stubble. And please, make him less....idk, ugly. Make him look like Linden Ashby or Matt Mullins...with a stubble.


THAT'd be incredible.

Kabal, next? Please?
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10/16/2011 04:52 PM (UTC)
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Johnny has always been my favorite character and probably always will be, despite a large chunk of the fan base hating his guts. Although I've noticed that after the game has come out a lot of hate on the Cagemiester seems to have faded away. Which speaks volume as to his pure awesomeness.

I for one am glad that Cage now has a chance to step up to the plate as the hero for the next game. I think he is far more interesting than any other good guy in the series and deserves a chance to prove it.

I think Cage's depiction in MK9 was amazing and so was this post. My hat is off to you sir.
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Garlador
10/17/2011 03:37 PM (UTC)
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redman Wrote:
Johnny = GDLK
Your post = 2XGDLK
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Amazing post bro. Keep it up! Enjoyed the whole read.. I also knew that he was the 1st MK character. I watched that icons thing about MK. It was pretty good, I recommend looking it up.

MK Icons

This the video you were talking about? You know, I'm surprised that having looked up MK history videos often, I missed this one.
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10/17/2011 04:56 PM (UTC)
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Ahhh, the Cagemeister. The main man.

I have to say, after Raiden saved him, I had him pegged for surviving the rest of Story. When Sindel sodomized 90% of the supporting cast, I knew he'd be safe. I've never understood the dissatisfaction some folks feel about him dying and coming back a few times - if anything, he got so much out of MK4; here was this guy up earning his reward in the Heavens, and he volunteers to come back to life and fight (probably helps that he knew he'd just come right back again if he died, but anyway). Johnny's initial death and return probably changed him, made him more than just another trumped-up Hollywood star with a head full of ego.

Dying and coming back is part of Cage's history (And in any case, it's usually better to be known for something that nothing - right, Kai?). I wouldn't rewrite that for the world, but it's certainly not absolutely necessary for his future. Let's see where he goes.

He might be the only character whose newfound extended background does him a disservice, though. I've stated this elsewhere, but I really enjoyed the fact that we never got any kind of mystical explanation for his powers; we were just to assume that he developed these abilities on his own after hard work. Some things are better left unexplained, and this was one of them, is my feel.

There's this notion that a sizeable portion of the MK fanbase hates him, and for the life of me I've never seen that. He's gotten fair portrayals in pretty much every form of media he's been in, and his only real 'douche' moment before MK9 was his his MK4 ending, I think. Apart from that, I've always had the sense that he's this this arrogant but loveable ass with a heart of gold, and this game captured that essence perfectly. Maybe others haven't seen him in the same light I have, but it's good to see he's getting more acceptance if he really has been that unpopular.

His portrayal in this game certainly solidified his place in the world (as if it even needed to be). It was wonderful, so wonderful to FINALLY see some acknowledgement of the Cage->Sonya attraction, and just as wonderful to see him grating on Jax's nerves about it. I also hope that Kung Lao comes back (with his original personality, plz) and we get to see the two of them interact a little bit more. The "Personality like sandpaper" line had to be my favorite line in the whole of Story.

He's so much fun to play, too. A good Cage player can really wreck your shit and shut you down before you know what your options are. As a Smoke player, I gained so much respect for Cage this time through because IMO nobody beats him down quite the way good Cage players are capable of. His rushdown is to be feared.

His fatalities were both top notch. You've gotta love the Oscar award. I may be a proponent of getting fatalities back to quick killing strokes, but that was some...solid gold...right there. *Caruso Shades*
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10/17/2011 05:33 PM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
redman Wrote:
Johnny = GDLK
Your post = 2XGDLK
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Amazing post bro. Keep it up! Enjoyed the whole read.. I also knew that he was the 1st MK character. I watched that icons thing about MK. It was pretty good, I recommend looking it up.

MK Icons

This the video you were talking about? You know, I'm surprised that having looked up MK history videos often, I missed this one.


Same here man. I'm watching it as I type. Oh, and this thread is great by the way. Johnny's presence and role in story mode were awesome. I loved his humor in the situations.

Fingers are still crossed for Baraka. No rush.
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Grizzle
10/17/2011 05:37 PM (UTC)
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I always saw the potential in Johnny Cage as an amazing character since watching the first Mortal Kombat film. This game captured him spot on, at first everyone looked at him like a complete douche but as the story progressed and Cage had a few confrontations with his allies, like Jax for instance, he actually won them over with his charm. Cage seems like a really cool and refreshing character among the melodramatic bands of Shaolin Monks, Ninja Warriors, and not so bright Gods.

I would love to see more of Cage in the future, now I don't see Cage being the fore runner as the top contender to protect Earthrealm, but I do see the potential to have Mortal Kombat's story be told with a very grounded view with events unfolding from Johnny Cage's perspective. The way Final Fantasy X was told it gave us Yuna who everyone looked to as the one who could save the day, and then there was the naive hero Tidus who charmed his way in the story and as a spectator you grew and learned the events from his point of view, I can see Johnny Cage being used in that light.

All in all, Cage is one of my personal favorites to follow in Mortal Kombat and I hope he's on board for the playable roster for many future installments to come.
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Icebaby
10/17/2011 05:47 PM (UTC)
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I am waiting for Sub-Zero's turn... But I greatly respect this thread.

They did Cage so well in this game, I loved every time I talked.

"I'm taking you out, taking you out, I'm taking you out and I'm taking you out... to dinner!"

If they would have added a scene where someone, mostly Goro, breaks his glasses and he said his most famous line in the movie, I would be speechless.

But nonetheless, they did a great huge job on him. Viddy well Netherealm Studios... Viddy well.
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redman
10/17/2011 09:13 PM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
redman Wrote:
Johnny = GDLK
Your post = 2XGDLK
<3
Amazing post bro. Keep it up! Enjoyed the whole read.. I also knew that he was the 1st MK character. I watched that icons thing about MK. It was pretty good, I recommend looking it up.

MK Icons

This the video you were talking about? You know, I'm surprised that having looked up MK history videos often, I missed this one.


Yeah. That's the one. I stumbled across it while looking at some old school MK vids, it's pretty interesting.
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mkwhopper
10/18/2011 05:47 AM (UTC)
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1) Johnny's hilarious as hellglasses
2) As always, nice threads Garlador. Only reason I'm on this forum
3) Like what Icebaby said, I'm waiting for a Sub-Zero one
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queve
10/19/2011 06:54 PM (UTC)
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You got Caged!


Another fantastic read! Excellent job, Garlador!

You pretty much covered everything that made Johnny Cage such a memorable and lovable character in this game.

Unlike many other fans (who had valid reasons), I always believed in him and his potential. However, it was not really till MKA that we really got a real sense of Johnny's true significance and power.

As a character, he was always just the "funny side kick" or "comic relief" who we all knew was strong as special...but, we just didn't care at all that much because we never learned new things about him or saw him in a fresh storyline that developed him (as an individual) further. He was just a member of the top stars of the MK heroes, falling behind their shadows due to his lack of development.

Like many other icons, he was simply "stuck" in the same predictable role and story that we all know and already feel bored about. Unlike most of them, however, he was worst because he never got any sort of "update" story-wise to keep his role fresh. He was just the same old-sexy-goody-hero. Not counting MK1 and before MKA, MK4 was the only game that tried something "new" with him...but it never really went anywhere (much like Sonya teaming up with Kano in MK2 or Jarek in MK4). It seemed that his return to the world would play a stronger role in different levels, but, it was just another resurrection.

A shame, but, despite his shallow and underdeveloped story, Johnny still remained one of my top favorite characters. Why? simply because of what he represents and means to the world of MK, and his glorious and fun special moves (plus, did I mentioned I never lost faith in him?).

MKA really helped to change everything (one of the few good things about that game) with a huge BANG. Johnny was suddenly the main hero, the guide, the leader, and his attitude and personality went from "Loony-goofy" to "seriously pissed-off badass". Johnny was suddenly gathering an army and leading them to the final war.

Too bad that game ended the way it did, but, thankfully, MK9 made sure to take the best of MKA (which is very little) and did not forget about Johnny's epic role and rebirth in that game.

Johnny is still the goofy-Johnny we all love and know, however, there's now a balance in him that made him stand out as a serious character, a powerful ally, and a star. A real star. He is no longer "the funny sidekick". No one can really say he is still just a "comic relief", no, he has proven to be much more.

I expect great things for Johnny Cage in the future and hope to see a more detailed and deep development of his personality, origins, new powers, and relationship with Sonya. There's just soooo many positive things going on in his favor that I would be extremely disappointed if they screw him over in the next game.

I mean it. His survival (along side Sonya's) opens a door to extremely interesting possibilities. We have been given two heroes who happen to be the most human of the game, two that we can relate to the most, and two who unlike previous heroes (Liu Kang), have many flaws and insecurities that they need to work (hopefully shaping an interesting and emotional path) to succeed.

Will Johnny stick with Sonya and Raiden?
Will Johnny and Sonya part ways?
Will Johnny really be forced to travel and train in Order Realm to control his newly discovered powers?
Will Johnny learn the truth about his life and origins?
What was this cult that took Johnny? Was it good? Evil? Did they worship Shinnok?
Will Johnny fail to master his powers? Will he give in?
How will he cope with this new title and responsibilities?
Will his relationship with Sonya grow deeper?
Will his relationship with Sonya affect him in a good or bad way?
Will he survive again?

So. Much. To know.

Johnny's fresh origins have really helped to spice him up and has given us more questions than answers. Who is he really? What was he destined to become? How was he involved with that cult? And is that cult worshiping something good? or evil?

Someone once mentioned that its possible that his origins tie him with Shinnok...and if that's the case, I'm extremely excited and nervous to see how its all going to turn out to be.

Overall, I'm extremely excited and happy about Johnny's perfect portrayal in MK9, his fresh storyline, and his survival. I can't wait to see what's in store for him, and I expect and hope that he (along side fellow survivor and lover, Sonya) will get the treatment he deserves in the next game. I expect a more serious Johnny Cage, but, still a hint of that goofiness that makes him who he is and who we love. He's a badass.

Not for nothing he was build up to be what he is, and not for nothing he became one of the most lovable and likable characters of the entire series.

Cheers to Johnny!

And cheers to you, Garlador, for another wonder KOTW.

And btw:

Garlador Wrote:

He's so self-centered, he even screams out his own name when he attacks, much like a Pokemon does.

(Wild Johnny Cage appeared! Johnny Cage used "charm". SONYA BLADE swoons. It's SUPER EFFECTIVE! )....

Cage, however, was too busy focused on a certain blonde to let something as silly as "fighting invisible lizards and floating soul monsters to the death" bother him. Unfortunately, Sonya was too busy focused on saving the lives of her teammates to put up with Johnny Cage's obnoxious flirting and pick-up lines.

(Johnny was shocked when his pick-up line "Wanna see my hard, shiny little Oscar?" failed to work on Sonya Blade...)


Absolutely hilarious!

PS: I absolutely love and approve of Motaro's death scene. I thought it was awesome.
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queve
10/19/2011 07:56 PM (UTC)
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Regarding the following comments:

Shinnok619 Wrote:
...And please, make him less....idk, ugly. Make him look like Linden Ashby or Matt Mullins...with a stubble.


THAT'd be incredible.


You know, I kind of agree.

I don't think new Johnny looks ugly, not at all. He looks handsome and that is specially noticeable in his renders, I guess. However, I do agree that he could look better. He should look better.

Really, his new look is alright, but, he looks older for some reason, and he definitely doesn't resemble the "Sex-bomb" he used to be:



I mean, he is supposed to be MK's sex-symbol, big enough to turn guys gay:



I hope that the next game takes inspiration from his MKDA hair cut. That messy-stylish look really suits him well. Also, he even looks younger.

I want Johnny to go back to those looks. There's really nothing wrong in having one painfully obvious hot guy among all the other ugly or average looking ones. And there's nothing wrong with exploiting that hot-guys look considering we are talking about Johnny- "I'm so pretty!" - Cage.

And talking about his looks, I've got to say that I feel extremely annoyed and disappointed with NRS for ditching all those other fantastic designs that they had in mind, in favor of the two safest and most boring costumes:



Seriously...WTF?!

I'm sure the majority feels the same way I do. Johnny has potential to look more unique and interesting. He should look more unique and interesting.

His costumes in MK9 are not bad, they are just too safe, simple, and the same boring thing we've seen in so many games before this one. Not cool. Specially after seeing those costumes.

Hopefully his ending in MK9 is an indication of better and more creative designs for Johnny:



Shadaloo Wrote:

His portrayal in this game certainly solidified his place in the world (as if it even needed to be). It was wonderful, so wonderful to FINALLY see some acknowledgement of the Cage->Sonya attraction, and just as wonderful to see him grating on Jax's nerves about it.


This.

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I always saw the potential in Johnny Cage as an amazing character since watching the first Mortal Kombat film. This game captured him spot on, at first everyone looked at him like a complete douche but as the story progressed and Cage had a few confrontations with his allies, like Jax for instance, he actually won them over with his charm. Cage seems like a really cool and refreshing character among the melodramatic bands of Shaolin Monks, Ninja Warriors, and not so bright Gods.

I would love to see more of Cage in the future, now I don't see Cage being the fore runner as the top contender to protect Earthrealm, but I do see the potential to have Mortal Kombat's story be told with a very grounded view with events unfolding from Johnny Cage's perspective. The way Final Fantasy X was told it gave us Yuna who everyone looked to as the one who could save the day, and then there was the naive hero Tidus who charmed his way in the story and as a spectator you grew and learned the events from his point of view, I can see Johnny Cage being used in that light.

All in all, Cage is one of my personal favorites to follow in Mortal Kombat and I hope he's on board for the playable roster for many future installments to come.


And all of this. So. Very. Much.
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10/19/2011 10:26 PM (UTC)
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First post...

I found nothing about him being seriously pissed off, and despite him thinking himself as leader, he was still typical foolish Johnny. It was quite amusing.

[And I love a lot about MKA; moreso than what MK9 did.]

As for his new origins, I disagree with everything it involves. We didn't need it to explain his powers; his MK1 bio did that. I think it's lame just like Jerrod being inside of Ermac.

And a relationship with Sonya is the last thing I want from him.

:( Poor Motaro.

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When I see Johnny's face, I notice MKDC Superman modified.
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The game's character design was focused on MK1-3. All of them should reflect that. Next time around they can do something more..."adventerous."
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MKDA did many things right in the character design, and Johnny's hair was one of them.
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10/20/2011 05:26 AM (UTC)
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Regarding the following comments:

Shinnok619 Wrote:
...And please, make him less....idk, ugly. Make him look like Linden Ashby or Matt Mullins...with a stubble.


THAT'd be incredible.


You know, I kind of agree.

I don't think new Johnny looks ugly, not at all. He looks handsome and that is specially noticeable in his renders, I guess. However, I do agree that he could look better. He should look better.

Really, his new look is alright, but, he looks older for some reason, and he definitely doesn't resemble the "Sex-bomb" he used to be:



I mean, he is supposed to be MK's sex-symbol, big enough to turn guys gay:

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I hope that the next game takes inspiration from his MKDA hair cut. That messy-stylish look really suits him well. Also, he even looks younger.

I want Johnny to go back to those looks. There's really nothing wrong in having one painfully obvious hot guy among all the other ugly or average looking ones. And there's nothing wrong with exploiting that hot-guys look considering we are talking about Johnny- "I'm so pretty!" - Cage.

And talking about his looks, I've got to say that I feel extremely annoyed and disappointed with NRS for ditching all those other fantastic designs that they had in mind, in favor of the two safest and most boring costumes:



Seriously...WTF?!

I'm sure the majority feels the same way I do. Johnny has potential to look more unique and interesting. He should look more unique and interesting.

His costumes in MK9 are not bad, they are just too safe, simple, and the same boring thing we've seen in so many games before this one. Not cool. Specially after seeing those costumes.

Hopefully his ending in MK9 is an indication of better and more creative designs for Johnny:



Shadaloo Wrote:

His portrayal in this game certainly solidified his place in the world (as if it even needed to be). It was wonderful, so wonderful to FINALLY see some acknowledgement of the Cage->Sonya attraction, and just as wonderful to see him grating on Jax's nerves about it.


This.

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Grizzle Wrote:
I always saw the potential in Johnny Cage as an amazing character since watching the first Mortal Kombat film. This game captured him spot on, at first everyone looked at him like a complete douche but as the story progressed and Cage had a few confrontations with his allies, like Jax for instance, he actually won them over with his charm. Cage seems like a really cool and refreshing character among the melodramatic bands of Shaolin Monks, Ninja Warriors, and not so bright Gods.

I would love to see more of Cage in the future, now I don't see Cage being the fore runner as the top contender to protect Earthrealm, but I do see the potential to have Mortal Kombat's story be told with a very grounded view with events unfolding from Johnny Cage's perspective. The way Final Fantasy X was told it gave us Yuna who everyone looked to as the one who could save the day, and then there was the naive hero Tidus who charmed his way in the story and as a spectator you grew and learned the events from his point of view, I can see Johnny Cage being used in that light.

All in all, Cage is one of my personal favorites to follow in Mortal Kombat and I hope he's on board for the playable roster for many future installments to come.


And all of this. So. Very. Much.


For the graphics of the time, I did think johnny was quite hot in MKDA... Wish they'd kept that hairstyle too!

Made him look genuinely Hollywood, as opposed to "random nobody in black pants/shorts who fights"...

I think they TRIED to make JC hot in this one... I think they're just not very good graphics for it... They've got some pros, but a con of them is the kind of weird faces some people have, and the odd hair. Which I think combined makes Johnny look a bit... odd.

Poor cricket.

Ah well
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10/27/2011 01:21 PM (UTC)
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Oh, Johnny, Johnny...


Well, after many years, I'm liking Mr. Cage again.



His gameplay is really fun and I love his cocky attitude as well. His X-ray is one of my favorites in the game, the only parry X-ray in the game and it has so much Johnny in it. His rushdown is crazy good! My favorite Johnny footage has to be JOP from Evo2011, he played him so well.

His costumes are OK. I really like his alternate and I think I prefer the black suit version, though both are good. His primary design is a little boring and I'm still not sure about the tattoo and the belt, but whatever. The pants are cool and I love the glasses. Also, his win pose is one of my faves!

As for his story mode part, well, he was pretty much the highlight of the entire mode. His personality was just impossible not to love!


Overall, Johnny is awesome in MK2011 and he makes it look easy! glasses
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10/27/2011 07:59 PM (UTC)
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Also, Johnny was never meant to be a sex-symbol. I don't know where that thought came from.
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11/06/2011 05:35 PM (UTC)
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Hmmm, who knows, after all this talk about Johnny's costumes and hair, maybe Garlador is going to pull one of his glorious edits from his magic hat and show off a fantastic design of Johnny featuring a new costume with his sexy MKDA hair.

**WINK WINK**

daryui Wrote:

I found nothing about him being seriously pissed off, and despite him thinking himself as leader, he was still typical foolish Johnny. It was quite amusing.


How so? How was he typical foolish Johnny?

daryui Wrote:

[And I love a lot about MKA; moreso than what MK9 did.]


To each their own.

daryui Wrote:

As for his new origins, I disagree with everything it involves. We didn't need it to explain his powers; his MK1 bio did that. I think it's lame just like Jerrod being inside of Ermac.

And a relationship with Sonya is the last thing I want from him.

:( Poor Motaro.


I love his new origins, shinning relationship with Sonya, and I'm very happy the MK team doesn't agree with you. I do understand that we don't necessarily need an explanation for everything related to special (Chi?) powers, however, Johnny really needed a twist in his story (urgently). This is hopefully the beginning of something great.

The only thing that I do agree with you is the whole Jerrod deal. Hopefully that ending will never become part of the canon. It would kill Ermac.

daryui Wrote:

When I see Johnny's face, I notice MKDC Superman modified.


Not fair. They let Superman have the pretty hair.

daryui Wrote:

The game's character design was focused on MK1-3. All of them should reflect that. Next time around they can do something more..."adventerous."
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No.

This is not necessarily the case or true. Great examples are: Mileena's costumes (which took inspiration from MKD), Ernac's costumes, both of Kitana's (as bad as they are they are not exactly a reflection of her classic look), both of Sonya's, Liu Kang's alternate, Scorpion's primary, Noob's primary, NIghtwolf's alt. Baraka's alt, Jax's alt, etc.

All of those characters above (and others) feature costumes that went beyond copy/pasting old classic looks that have been seen over a billion times.

Just because this game is focused around the first 3 mk's doesn't mean that the characters should look boring and dated (as fun and cool as they were back then). Johnny Cage could had easily gotten a more adventurous and bold alternate or primary, just like other characters did. His primary was good enough for the "classic feel". The jacket-costumes would have been a definite win.

daryui Wrote:

MKDA did many things right in the character design, and Johnny's hair was one of them.
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Agreed!

daryui Wrote:
Also, Johnny was never meant to be a sex-symbol. I don't know where that thought came from.


It was more like "a saying" than a stated fact.

And he can still rock the sex-symbol idea if that hair goes back to MKDA's style.

samuhai Wrote:

For the graphics of the time, I did think johnny was quite hot in MKDA... Wish they'd kept that hairstyle too! Made him look genuinely Hollywood, as opposed to "random nobody in black pants/shorts who fights"...


Me too.

I think it's funny and ridiculous how many "characters hair" look sooooo much better in the old games than in the new next-gen consoles. Why is that?

I know they are not perfection, but, Kitana's and Sindel's hair in MKDA and MKD respectively (for example), look a billion times better than how they look in MKvsDC and MK2011. What's up with that? I rather see Sindel's "floaty" cool hair from MKD than what she currently has now....and don't even get me started on Kitana.

Nephrite Wrote:


His gameplay is really fun and I love his cocky attitude as well. His X-ray is one of my favorites in the game, the only parry X-ray in the game and it has so much Johnny in it. His rushdown is crazy good!


I love Johnny's gameplay! Even though he's always been a fave of mine, I never really got into his gameplay during the MKDA-MKA time. It was fun, but, really not as amazing or memorable as it is today (well, I guess the same can be said about almost everyone from the cast). Thankfully, he's always had a good list of awesome special moves in his favor.

And that X-Ray has been one of my favorites since day one. So. Much. Attitude!

Nephrite Wrote:


His costumes are OK. I really like his alternate and I think I prefer the black suit version, though both are good. His primary design is a little boring and I'm still not sure about the tattoo and the belt, but whatever. The pants are cool and I love the glasses. Also, his win pose is one of my faves!

As for his story mode part, well, he was pretty much the highlight of the entire mode. His personality was just impossible not to love!


Overall, Johnny is awesome in MK2011 and he makes it look easy! glasses


All of this.

Though I do prefer the primary over the suit costume. He looks nice and all but its too boring for me. I'd have gone for those lovely jacket designs they planned for him.

Why the hell did they end up choosing the most boring and simple designs for most of the characters? It pains me....

And yes, Johnny stole the show in this storymode just like he did in Shaolin Monks.

I'm definitely looking forward to Johnny's future.
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Keep dunking your Kenshi breadsticks into your Skarlet sauce, people! The main course isn't coming for a while, and you never know when it's going to be disappointing.

11/06/2011 06:56 PM (UTC)
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Johnny is supposed to be an actor who is self-indulgent in his looks and talent. If he doesn't have looks to be self-indulgent in, what's the point?

Also, I think Johnny looks most attractive in MKT and MK9.



I don't know I've posted here.

I respect and like Johnny, and honestly would like for him to step up in the story.
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