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03/06/2011 11:11 PM (UTC)
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It was hinted at that subzero would die long ago even the kratos reveal trailer hinted at it.
My guess is scorpion kills subzero at the end of mk2 storyline and hes automated in mk 3.
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03/06/2011 11:12 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero is my favorite character, and I've always loathed the idea of "Cyber Sub-Zero". That's a terrible idea that should be left to poor "what-if" fan fiction and Kreate-A-Kharacters in Armageddon.

It sounds legit to me, but I can only hope that it's a "what if" or something.

Can you imagine "Cyber Scorpion" or "Robot Kitana"?

Here's hoping they don't just flat-out erase the best character development in the entire MK saga thus far just because none of them had the bright idea to make a blue pallet swap of Sektor back during MK3.
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03/06/2011 11:12 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
I could live if he's made out of the body of the older brother and Noob is basically just his soul. Like most, I don't want to see Cyber-Zero being some "after the fact" version of the younger Sub-Zero though. Personally I don't think they would do that, given the iconic look of "Sub-Zero" and all. That would mean future games would have no blue ninja guy, because one is dead and the other is a robot.

Even if he's the older brother's body though, it's still pretty crap that was chosen over Rain.


I think they knew Rain would sell much more than some random girl, and Cyber Sub-Zero.
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03/06/2011 11:12 PM (UTC)
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ehh?

Maaan I ain't buyin this news...I think they're hiding Smoke.
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03/06/2011 11:12 PM (UTC)
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Actually cyber-subzero dosn't sound bad, i mean they where going to try to make him a cyborg and i would like to see what he would be.
So, i welcome cyber subzero.

Mellinas costume is probley not a nude skin, i mean come on! It didn't even say it was nude people. I think its probley leather, or maybe some sort of lungeria (sp.).

And i think this is fake, but at the same time lupinko did said about quanchi, so could be true.
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03/06/2011 11:13 PM (UTC)
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I don't know what to believe, but I'm more on the side of it being fake.

But leave it to Boon and Friends to give us the best MK in ages, yet turn a classic character into another un-needed robotical mess.
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03/06/2011 11:13 PM (UTC)
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Wasn't the elder sub extremely loyal to the lin kuei. if he hadn't dies berfore mk 2? I'm sure he would have the first volunteer instead of sektor to be automated. I really hope that if its the younger sub zero that its a what if scenario.
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03/06/2011 11:13 PM (UTC)
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I cant help but be part of that group that thinks this is AWSOME.

but of coarse thats my biased Lin-Kuei fanism. And I totally 100% admit it. I really do feel for fans of him and people who diddnt want this.

Moves that would kick ass:
-Ice missiles
-Ice parry??
-Ice Bombs
-I hope he has NO teleport. Sek and Cy already having them would be too much for every Cyborg to have it.
-Ice barrier?
-Ice from above?

something I must hope for, I hope to the elder gods that its Sektor that captures him if this is canon, or even Sektor AND Cyrax to give them some more story progression and resolve to their porposes.

As a Sektor fan, again self-admittingly biased, I cant help but hope for revenge and that this happens after being defeated during MKDA era for control of the Lin Kuei.

There is not escaping the Lin Kuei, you may escape once, but We will just go back in time and murderlize you.

I just got REALLY hyped for subby.
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03/06/2011 11:14 PM (UTC)
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I'm on pretty good knowledge that this list is true.

Begin angry ranting.
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03/06/2011 11:14 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, using elder Sub's dead body to produce a cybernetic assassin and at the same time giving it the mission of hunting down Quai Liang would fit perfectly in the story. Especially now that Smoke is going to be human. This way there is a cybernized robot linked to Quai in blood.

But again, its just a wait and see scenario. Raging now won't help, we don't know what it will turn out to be. I doubt they will automate younger Sub-Zero especially since fans have made clear they DON'T want this for months now!
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03/06/2011 11:14 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Arts Wrote:
The titles for the secret characters point to the originals: Reptile, Jade, Noob, and Smoke. You probably have to beat them to unlock them, using the original methods from the original games to get to them.


This would be badass.

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Honestly, I am forming this morbid curiosity about what Cyber-Sub would even entail.


To be fair, so am I. But like I've said every time it's been brought up, this is seriously something we doodled with crayon when we were kids.

I might be on board with the body of the first one being used...though you'd figure Scorpion would have roasted the flesh off of his bones.

I'd laugh heartily if they called him Tundra...and laugh even fucking harder if he was the reward for clearing Challenge 300 (though if they're two separate trophies that's unlikely)

You know what, though? End of the day? Even if the worst case scenario occurs and the obvious "Sub-Zero is caught while Smoke escapes" scenario happens...

...we're still getting an MK game with a huge-ass amount of content, lovely visuals, deep gameplay, a beautiful soundtrack, visceral finishers, almost the entire original cast intact, and even if the story won't be the original three retold, even if everything goes fiddle faddle foo...I said months ago I'd take any characterization here and apply it to the older games to enrich my experience with them, whenever I play.

Dumb character or not, I've seen too much awesome for Cyber Sub-Zero to ruin this game for me.
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03/06/2011 11:15 PM (UTC)
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Rastabortionist Wrote:
it's not like he'll replace human sub.


That's EXACTLY what could happen if the character is real.

There are three possibilities for a story for this character:

1) No story, he's a what-if.

2) He's made out of Elder Sub's dead body, so really there are just two versions of Noob.

3) Younger Sub gets caught and automated instead of Smoke this time.

4) It's reanimated corpse of Sub-Zero IV,Sub's father. Maybe Lin Kuei actually managed to retrieve his corpse somehow.

5) It's not a cyborg,but a robot. It has freezing abilities and shit because it was modeled after Sub-Zero,but there's no actual human underneath the armor.

...HEY FUCK YOU MAN I'M TRYING MY BEST TO COME UP WITH SHIT THAT'LL HELP ME STAY IN DENIAL
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03/06/2011 11:15 PM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
Can you imagine "Cyber Scorpion" or "Robot Kitana"?



I actually laughed mockingly at those who suggested that Jade would ever become a cyborg ninja... XD
But if a Cyborg Subbie can happen, then who knows... maybe Jade will eventually turn cyborg. Here's hoping that will never happen.
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03/06/2011 11:16 PM (UTC)
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Wait, people actually think the inclusion/exclusion of Rain, the ref female and Cyber Sub-Zero will effect the sales of the game?

That is hilarious.
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03/06/2011 11:18 PM (UTC)
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Noobsmoke92 Wrote:
Guys,CALM THE FUCK DOWN!!!

It is impossible for Cyber-Zero to be in the game just because of Noob Saibot's bio vignette,that happens in MK3 AND GRAVEYARD.

....You're right! That actually helps a lot, thank you! *shakily drinks soda*
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03/06/2011 11:18 PM (UTC)
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Redstorm Wrote:
Wait, people actually think the inclusion/exclusion of Rain, the ref female and Cyber Sub-Zero will effect the sales of the game?

That is hilarious.


Nobody said that.

They said the idea is bullshit.
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03/06/2011 11:19 PM (UTC)
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As for Mileena's alternate costume, I can't see it being anything other than nude. She's already damn near naked, so how would a costume in which she has more clothes be called "greatest alternate ever?" When it comes to a character like Mileena, they can't be referring to clothes, but lack thereof.
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03/06/2011 11:20 PM (UTC)
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Nope, Atleast one person said Rain would "get more buys" than the Red Chick.

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03/06/2011 11:20 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Though I can't prove it, everything we know about the automation points to the theory that it has to be done with live specimens. Otherwise, why would the biological aspect even be necessary? If the brain activity wasn't necessary, why not just make straight up robots?


Think Frankenstein.

Not gonna lie, I haven't actually read the Mary Shelly novel, but from what I understand from the movies/media, Frankenstein is more than just animated parts. He's alive with consciousness and brain activity. That wouldn't work with Bi-Han's corpse, because his essence is now out in the world as Noob Saibot.
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03/06/2011 11:20 PM (UTC)
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I still want to know what the hell McCarron is hiding from us about Story Mode that would be so god damned comforting and "explain everything".
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03/06/2011 11:21 PM (UTC)
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NS922 Wrote:
As for Mileena's alternate costume, I can't see it being anything other than nude. She's already damn near naked, so how would a costume in which she has more clothes be called "greatest alternate ever?" When it comes to a character like Mileena, they can't be referring to clothes, but lack thereof.


I'm thinking a string bikini ala Sheeva's MK3 main outfit, but actually made from one string. XD
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~Crow~
03/06/2011 11:21 PM (UTC)
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Redstorm Wrote:
Nope, Atleast one person said Rain would "get more buys" than the Red Chick.



I think what they're saying is Rain will sell more DLC packs.
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03/06/2011 11:21 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
He's alive with consciousness and brain activity.


So was Zombie Liu Kang.

While his soul was running around separate as a ghost.

Same scenario.

A body can be alive without its soul. Sektor doesn't have his soul anymore, after all.
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03/06/2011 11:22 PM (UTC)
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Redstorm Wrote:
Nope, Atleast one person said Rain would "get more buys" than the Red Chick.



Ugh, I'm talking about DLC.
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03/06/2011 11:22 PM (UTC)
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