That is given as obvious. If anyone, XD84 had more attachments to MK than it is healthy. "Good" old days?


Anyways, Starcraft 2 comes out on the 27th. That anulls everything else in comparison, so, yeah...

Because we sure wouldn't want dedicated fans on this fan message board.



Relevant!

That was the logical thought I had at first but isn't Motaro's tail part in MK:A's create a character listed as a cybernetic tail? I can't remember at the moment and my ps2 is lent out to family but I thought that it was and I just assumed it was in fact cybernetic but it is possible it was armor or even metallic looking scales like you said. Even though where he came from does not have that technology does not mean he could not get it from someone or someplace else but like you said...clearly it was never stated in story or anything that his tail is cybernetic or was not cybernetic either so you never know I guess. Either way,I doubt Motaro would be the one to get the robot treatment anyway...if he did that would be a bit unexpected.

I am extremely interested in what this new "enlighten" Raiden is going to be like. The wise are usually the greatest nuisances in these types of situations. Let that standard have it, and Raiden will be alot more...aggressive, about stopping some of these characters from screwing things up for Earth. I wonder if he's still going to take similar risks like:

- Facing off with Shinnok, and sending him to hell in the same fashion.
(canon, pre-MK1) ~Does anything different happen to Lucifer then?

- Willingly taking Shang Tsungs bait, and turning himself into a human to enter the contests.
(canon, MK1) ~He'd probably still do that anyway. heh Plus, I like the ability to turn into a mortal or not. Testament to the whole "God" thing about him.

- Goes into Outworld alone and eventually battling Shao Kahn again, wins, and close all the portals.
(non-canon, MK2)

- Turns himself into a mortal again to face Kahn in the merged Outworld/Earth. And beats him.
(non-canon. MKT)

- Accept the seat as an Elder God, and give Kai his staff knowing that he won't do shhhiiiet with it. (canon MK4) ~If they get that far with it, I think I'd keep my staff. Thank you very much.

- Give up his seat as Elder God and help the mortals...again
(canon, MKDA) ~Don't think this would happen the same way. He might just choose against even taking the seat next time. That or, there could possibly be more gods to choose from to take over. Instead of just Fujin.

- Fight the Deadly Alliance alone
(canon, MKD) ~Null...

- Kill Shujinko
(canon? MKD) ~Interviene during this retelling somewhere, and tell him to stop being so fa-ckin gullible!

Based on Jerrods clarifying, I can imagine a few of these points won't even have the chance to exist anymore. Which is good because at least 5 of the points above are as a consequence of reacting to consistent threats to Earth. Instead of like in MK1, where he just goes in for the hell of it. Raiden should be really fun to watch again because of the way they've chosen to handle MKA's ending...or rather, its "conclusion".

No more Dark Raiden?? Okay then..., but I still wanna know wut fug-gin happened. What exactly happened to Raiden to make him ruthless? Why didn't the two sorcerers become effected in the EtherRealm like Raiden did, just opposite? Did the Zombie just...fall apart at the end of MKA? Or did he let the thing rest finally?

Also, I could see how a ruthless Raiden (dark raiden) could loose to Shao Kahn.... Shao Kahn would be the expert at doing bad shit to get his way. Raiden would be the amateur in that field. Raiden only wins when he's clean and clear minded. Which could also justify why he could loose to the DA too. Not clear, and in over his head because the Dragon King was already on the loose.

I'm glad mostly everyone is supporting the direction their taking the story in. I couldn't be any more thrilled than I currently am. We'll be able to find out what happened after Armageddon while also starting off on a clean slate and exploring new territory that will hopefully be continued well into future games!

I'm so happy this isn't a boring direct re-telling that does nothing but spit out old shit that we've already known for going on eighteen years. I'm happy we're getting an entire new story that doesn't completely forget about the old one, but still manages to re-invent and re-imagine a bulk of it.

I'm also hoping to see characters like Rain, Ermac, Sheeva ect. actually fleshed out and developed. Starting over is a great chance for everyone to be developed and given a chance. Clean slate.

Loving it so far. To a new beginning!

I mean no disrespect, if that is your point. I just fund that I have became too attached to MK in hindishgt than I would be confortable with.

Also, relevant!



I wonder though wether they start a new story, with the element of a Raiden getting PM's from his future self about a vague chain of events that took place, or the new storyline would be centered inclusively around the old.

I would have the first one, if I would have to. The less it harkens back to the old failures, the better. That way it would not look like Netherrealm Studios is going: "look, we correcte this into this"

Let this new continuity be self-sufficient, and not an outgrowth of the old. Some autonomity would be for the better. And am I the only one who still sees this as an exercise in the old?

I wish I could give a mental message to myself before ordering that last tequila yesterday

I think it's way too early to make judgements.

I would love for this to kick off a fresh new story that will be further developed in future sequels, but what I DON'T want is MK10 to be nothing but MK4, just with a few minor differences in the story, then MK11 being about MKDA,MKD, and MKA with more minor differences ect.

Hopefully, this is the beginning of a new era and not just the same one with a few new bells & whistles thrown in.

I say no change in the cyber ninjas, I hope boon changes his mind or its simply a smoke reveal. cyrax and sektor were always more than enough.

To be honest, I've never played MKA, so I've never tried KAF, but I've been unable to find a a full list for that feature. It could just be the created fighter's is cybernetic, since the main model doesn't have a tail, and to get the Tarkata blade, one must equip the "Tarkata gloves" which aren't worn by Tarkata.

I love this idea. The fact that one person's entire history may be changed, is awesome. Imagine, Raiden knowing everything that he knows now, but he knows it during MK1. Maybe there won't be changes in Cyrax, Sektor, and Smoke, but maybe changes in other characters.

For example, Raiden now knows about Kahn's invasion during MK3. Maybe now he can save Kabal so he doesn't get horribly scarred and need a respirator. I know all you would throw a fuss about this because it changes the story, but I for one would be down for this.




This may not be fact, however. Maybe the original Sub-Zero will be automated by the Lin Kuei, and set out to hunt down his younger brother and Smoke, who now may have avoided automation. It's a possibility...

Well what good is Kabal without the "I need this mask to breathe" thing? It's basically his whole character.

If the whole reason to set this game in the MK1 thru 3 era is nostalgia appeal, to let people play as their old favorites again, changing characters' fundamental identities and appearances ruins that whole idea. Sure, Scorpion fans and Kung Lao fans look like they're going to get to play their favorite character just the way they like him, but Kabal fans wouldn't ACTUALLY be getting Kabal. They might still get a dude who fights with hookswords and has a dash that makes people spin. But that's only like 50% Kabal.

Same reason I don't want them to fuck with who is and isn't a Cyberninja. I am a huge Noob Saibot fan. I don't want him to be a robot and have robot moves instead of being made of shadow and doing shadow moves, or to be left out all together in favor of keeping Original Sub around and turning the other brother into a stupid Robo-Zero with ice robot moves.

And I'm a big fan of Smoke, but specifically BECAUSE of the Purple Robot version. I HATE Human Smoke. Human Smoke isn't actually a character, he's just Scorpion in gray. Being a cyborg is Smoke's ACTUAL identity as a character, it's what he's known for and best as. Or imagine if Cyrax is the one who stays a human? How the hell would that even work? Now the game has two yellow ninjas? Every single one of his moves is based on being a robot, so...is he gonna just pull out a net and throw it with his hands? The name "Cyrax" doesn't even mean anything, it's a name specifically intended to sound robotic.

These aren't even storyline concerns, these are just "I want to be able to play as my favorite characters regardless of the game mode".

Like I said, I'm open to certain changes. People dying, people not dying, Jax getting his arms ripped off and literally replaced instead of wearing bionic gloves. Someone else winning the tournament instead of Liu, Raiden making things worse and the bad guys winning...I can tolerate whatever storymode you give me, really, as long as when I play arcade or versus, Noob Saibot looks like Noob Saibot and not a god damned robot.

This game isnt canon guys. Its a retelling. Thats why the story is going to be different

Sub-Zero (older brother) might not become Noob Saibot anymore and instead become a Cyborg.

OR

The Sub-Zero (younger brother) is captured and becomes the Cyborg.


Those are the only two Lin Kuei that we haven't seen as cyborgs before.

And I'm saying both would be terrible. Noob Saibot is a good character. He has fans. He was a big part of MK2 and Trilogy. Replacing him with a Robo-Noob or a Robo-Sub would be completely giving fans who wanted to play as Noob Saibot in this game the shaft.

Agreed! I would be so peeved off if they did that. Sub-Zero is one of my fav's, and Noob Saibot is a cool character..I really like the whole dark thing he has going on..I wouldn't mind them showing him as the original Sub-Zero say in cut scenes. But HELL NO as either one of them as Cyborgs. I mean it would be cool, but after a while I'd feel pretty gutted that they'd change that much. We'll see, if it happens then too bad, i'll probably learn to get used to it. However, I'd rather Sub-Zero and Noob Saitbot just as they are.

Am I the only one who didn't take that seriously?

I thought Boon was simply trying to make an example of something different that could happen, as opposed to him proclaiming "Smoke won't be turned into a cyborg, it will be someone else" as if that is something that will happen in the storyline.

I thought he was just trying to make an example. lol I dunno Everyone seems to be running with that quote now.

I feel this way too. People are taking this whole time travel approach as if Boon is just gonna make a bunch of drastic crazy changes to characters and story for fun. Whereas from what we've heard, the whole reason for this is to iron out all the kinks in stories and characters that messed everything up, and to have Raiden go back and make necessary changes in order to not get to the stage of Armageddon. That would require logical changes, not random ones just for the hell of it. Raiden changing Noob or Sub into a robot does nothing to further his goal.

Again. Butterfly Effect. Raiden doesn't have to do it on purpose for a change to happen because of his tampering.

....and Shaolin Monks was supposed to reveal what really happened during MK2.

One thing I don't think Boon meant as an aside was Liu Kang not winning Mortal Kombat 1. Raiden realizes that even if he does win, Kahn winds up invading anyway. So he instructs the heroes to let it happen or pulls them out of the tournament, so they can slip into Outworld and take the fight directly to Kahn himself as the invasion takes place (MKII and 3 simultaneously). Doesn't account for cyberninjas popping up much sooner than they normally would, and the like, but it's just a theory.

From my understanding, it actually is. Boon's words state on the front page that the events in the opening cinema take place after Armageddon.

Just a question I had, but, doesn't this whole thing seem like cheating? I mean, Shao Kahn has been breaking the rules of MK since who knows how long, but now Raiden is going to as well? Basically, this means that at any time, if Raiden feels that his side isn't doing well, he can send a message to himself and try to rewrite things from the beginning? Instead of losing where he should, he just does this little trick to ensure the good guys win? So the bad guys technically cannot win now that we know Raiden can do this, can they?

I get the Butterfly Effect concept and how Raiden could change one thing, and have it change a ton of other things. My point is, this is not real life. They have complete control over everything that is done. If this were reality, yeah sure Raiden would change something and shit would hit the fan. But this is a game, if they don't want it to affect things in certain ways, they won't write it as such. And unless they are just wanting to make things wild and crazy by switching up all kinds of stuff as we know it, like Sub or Noob becoming a robot, Sonya being Black, Cage as a female...etc I see no reasoning as to why Boon and Co. would logically make a decision as such. Not only would it be a stupid move from a fan reaction standpoint, but it makes no sense to have another Cyborg in the game when we already have 3.

Like I've said...I am not saying it couldn't happen or that it won't, I merely trying to get you to see why it's not worth worrying about quite yet, because it just lacks all logic for them to do that. If that's the case, they might as well just spin a roullette wheel that determines everyone's new fate and persona.

I think it would be cool if they made it so the Sub-Zero we are seeing now is the older brother. Have it so Scorpion accidentally killed the younger brother instead of the one he was after, young Sub-Zero becomes Noob, Noob is seen in the tournament, older Sub-Zero is sent by the Lin Kuei to win the tournament and capture his brother Noob for automation, Sub-Zero defeats Noob and gets captured by the Lin Kuei, Scorpion sees Sub-Zero and enters the tournament to go after him.

I hope this Sub-Zero is the older brother because I would like to see him be evil and a ruthless bastard who cares about nothing but his clan. Also I think Noob has more potential being automated because quite frankly I always found him kind of lame, also you would have sympathy for him because he is the innocent younger brother now who payed for his brother's mistakes.